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Old 12-05-2007, 10:46 PM   #1501
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Yeah i would go with Sasuke and Oro too. Those two are both extremely smart and combined, would be more than enough of a match for Shika and Kakashi's smarts. Both Sasuke and Oro know how to use clones, regeneration, and Sasuke's Sharingan really well. Sasuke's Sharingan would outmatch Kakashi's in my opinion, even if Kakashi has a MS. Both Sasuke and Oro's Genjutsu abilities would out do Kakashi, and outlast him. Like one of you said, Sasuke and Oro have a larger Chakra amount than Kakashi, Shika, and Sakura. As for Sakura. Her strength will only get her so far with Sasuke and Oro's abilities to trick with genjutsu and clones.

I would also give this one to Sasuke and Oro.

As for Oro vs Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma. Nobody stated anything about Gai releasing his gates. With that, his Taijutsu, Kakashi's Ninjutsu and sharingan, and some help from Asuma. I think they would win.
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Both Sasuke and Oro know how to use clones, regeneration, and Sasuke's Sharingan really well.
When has Sasuke ever been shown to use clones?

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Sasuke's Sharingan would outmatch Kakashi's in my opinion, even if Kakashi has a MS.
Hm. I kind of have to disagree there. Although Sasuke's Sharingan will eventually be more than Itachi's, which automatically eventually makes it better than Kakashi's, right now, Sasuke hasn't shown anything, Sharingan wise, that Kakashi can't do himself.

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Both Sasuke and Oro's Genjutsu abilities would out do Kakashi, and outlast him.
The outlasting part is truth, but Oro is weak against genjutsu, especially Sharingan genjutsu. Let's hope Kakashi can take advantage of that.

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Like one of you said, Sasuke and Oro have a larger Chakra amount than Kakashi, Shika, and Sakura. As for Sakura. Her strength will only get her so far with Sasuke and Oro's abilities to trick with genjutsu and clones.
Oro doesn't use genjutsu. Also, I really doubt Sakura's strength would be a factor against Sasuke at all. I can imagine Shika binding Sasuke in place while Sakura rushes him to go for an OHKO punch, but Sasuke is so fast that he can just go CS2 and over power Shika and his shadow binds. Sakura's strength may come in handy against Oro, though, since Tsunade was able to beat the living daylights out of him with pure taijutsu.

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As for Oro vs Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma. Nobody stated anything about Gai releasing his gates. With that, his Taijutsu, Kakashi's Ninjutsu and sharingan, and some help from Asuma. I think they would win.
Sure about that? Remember that Oro is extremely difficult to kill and is quite durable. He can take a large beating. It's possible that Oro can just begin his healing process after Gai busts out his gates. Or he'll just regenerate or pull his body back together like he's done before. I don't see Gai's taijutsu as too much of a threat, but more of a distraction so Kakashi can use strong ninjutsu, or MS.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:17 AM   #1503
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When has Sasuke ever been shown to use clones?
I wasn't neccessarilly talking about Sasuke using clones, but i was talking mainly about Oro's sheading ability. Like when he lost an arm to 3 tailed Naruto, sheaded his skin, and had his arm back.

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Hm. I kind of have to disagree there. Although Sasuke's Sharingan will eventually be more than Itachi's, which automatically eventually makes it better than Kakashi's, right now, Sasuke hasn't shown anything, Sharingan wise, that Kakashi can't do himself.
I don't remember Kakashi using any Genjutsus or talking about seeing the color of chakra.

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The outlasting part is truth, but Oro is weak against genjutsu, especially Sharingan genjutsu. Let's hope Kakashi can take advantage of that.
Yeah, but like i said before, i don't think we have seen Kakashi use any Genjutsus yet.
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Oro doesn't use genjutsu. Also, I really doubt Sakura's strength would be a factor against Sasuke at all. I can imagine Shika binding Sasuke in place while Sakura rushes him to go for an OHKO punch, but Sasuke is so fast that he can just go CS2 and over power Shika and his shadow binds. Sakura's strength may come in handy against Oro, though, since Tsunade was able to beat the living daylights out of him with pure taijutsu.
Oro uses that kind of killing intent that he used in the Forest of Death, but not Genjutsu for, but Sasuke. As for the rest of this comment, that was kind of what i was trying to say. You must have misunderstood it or i didn't make it clear. Here is what i said:" Her strength will only get her so far with Sasuke and Oro's abilities to trick with genjutsu and clones." In other words, i was kind of saying that Sakura's strength can only do a little to effect the fight or nothing at all.
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Sure about that? Remember that Oro is extremely difficult to kill and is quite durable. He can take a large beating. It's possible that Oro can just begin his healing process after Gai busts out his gates. Or he'll just regenerate or pull his body back together like he's done before. I don't see Gai's taijutsu as too much of a threat, but more of a distraction so Kakashi can use strong ninjutsu, or MS.
That last part. With Gai's level of Taijutsu and the upgrade from all the gates, i believe that he could do more than be a distraction. With his speed with all the gates released, i believe that he could match Oro's speed. As for his strength, with the gates released, i think his strength would be close to Tsunade's strength. We all saw how effective Tsunades's strength was againist Oro.

With all this stuff from Oro, combined with Kakashi, Kakashi's jutsu and Sharingan/MS, and help from Asuma, i think they could do it.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:29 PM   #1504
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Oro & Sasuke vs. Sakura, Kakashi, & Shika??

Ok very unfair fight considering Kakashi fears Oro & Sasuke can takeout both Sakura & Shika at the same time... Very unfair fight in my opinion... Sasuke & Oro win this hands down without much effort.


Oro vs Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma

A much better match up as we have 3 of the most experienced jounins vs. the legendary Sannin called Orochimaru. With Kakashi's growth in skill level I wouldn't put it past him to come up with a plan to takeout Oro with the help of Gai & Asuma. So I'll give this one to team Konoha.

Edit: On second thought I change my mind. I didn't factor in Oro summoning the 1st & 2nd Hokages. So Orochimaru is my winner.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:38 PM   #1505
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Pain vs Minato

Now that would be a fight. I think that Minato would kick his ass. Jira was way to slow and couldn't evade Pain's attacks, but Minato on the other hand is a lot faster and he's the master of rasengan and wind jutsu. Pain wouldn't last a sec.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:40 PM   #1506
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Pain hasn't showed his powers and we know next to nothing about Minato except he invented 3 jutsu. That's about it.
So, no, I cannot say who is stronger.
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Well, Minato wins in speed, that's for sure, but we still don't know the true power of rinnegan.
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Old 12-15-2007, 06:19 PM   #1508
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Minato hands down would whoop his ass Flying thunder god or his Sushinn which are fuking fast especially thunder god and he took sushinn to a level nobody has taken it before speed was is gift nuff said.

Pain would lose the moment he would see minato it would be the end due to minato's high speed there is no reason to even question it the power of the rinnegan was shown nothing more to it pain used his full power to beat one man end of story.
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Well, Minato wins in speed, that's for sure, but we still don't know the true power of rinnegan.
We honestly don't know how fast Minato is, or if he even has wind nature chakra. Both of them are unknown for the most part, so you can't say who would win yet.
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We honestly don't know how fast Minato is, or if he even has wind nature chakra. Both of them are unknown for the most part, so you can't say who would win yet.
we do know how fast he is read kakashi gaiden he took out armies in seconds and his sushinn is unsurpassed minato's specialty was speed damn it read the kage bio's everyone of them had their own specialty.

Shodaime-herculean strength,mokuton ninjutsu

Nidaime-unsurpassed level of using water ninjutsu,and kinjutsu to fight

Sandaime-knowledge of over 1000 jutsu and new all the jutsu in konoha,also was praised as god of shinobi

Yondaime- speed and his rasengan,was the fastest shinboi in konoha and the greatest ever produced his sushinn gave him the nickname konoha's yellow flash he also had thunder god jutsu which let him travel any distance in a matter of seconds and defeated kyuubi by sealing it in his son naruto.

Godaime-medical ninjutsu user unsurpassed,herculean strength and a sannin.

Minato was just that damn good armies were forced to retreat on sighting don't give me rank crap it doesn't matter even it was 3 kages it is all about his insane speed that cannot be tracked by anyone he can easily take out all 6 at once without doing much by the time pain notices he will be joinging jiraiya.
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we do know how fast he is read kakashi gaiden he took out armies in seconds and his sushinn is unsurpassed minato's specialty was speed damn it read the kage bio's everyone of them had their own specialty.

Shodaime-herculean strength,mokuton ninjutsu

Nidaime-unsurpassed level of using water ninjutsu,and kinjutsu to fight

Sandaime-knowledge of over 1000 jutsu and new all the jutsu in konoha,also was praised as god of shinobi

Yondaime- speed and his rasengan,was the fastest shinboi in konoha and the greatest ever produced his sushinn gave him the nickname konoha's yellow flash he also had thunder god jutsu which let him travel any distance in a matter of seconds and defeated kyuubi by sealing it in his son naruto.

Godaime-medical ninjutsu user unsurpassed,herculean strength and a sannin.

Minato was just that damn good armies were forced to retreat on sighting don't give me rank crap it doesn't matter even it was 3 kages it is all about his insane speed that cannot be tracked by anyone he can easily take out all 6 at once without doing much by the time pain notices he will be joinging jiraiya.
OK. I was saying that we don't know the full extent of what he can do. Yeah wwe know that he has extreme speed and the Rasengan, but besides that, all we can go on is his little skirmishes in Kakashi Gaiden.

Don't give you crap. You just saying that he could take out all 6 Pain's that easy when we don't even know what the rest of the Pains can do is crap.

Yeah, he is known pretty much as the best that came out of Konoha, but did Pain come out of Konoha. If Pain is strong enough to kill Jiraiya without even revealing his complete power, right now, it is impossible to tell who would win.

Another thing, saying that Minato can't be tracked, just shows how much you know about his jutsu. It is easy to track his Thunder God jutsu if you know where the mark is. With all of Pain's eye abilities, to see from six different perspectives, i would guess that he would be able to find it.
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Relax, Kakashi =)
We know Minato was very fast, and we know he can take out fodder nins at any given time in seconds, but we do not know how would he fare against a shinobi of much higher level.
Minato is not immortal. He can die as well.

I don't like speculating anything before I know full abilities of both shinobi who are fighting.
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Relax, Kakashi =)
We know Minato was very fast, and we know he can take out fodder nins at any given time in seconds, but we do not know how would he fare against a shinobi of much higher level.
Minato is not immortal. He can die as well.

I don't like speculating anything before I know full abilities of both shinobi who are fighting.
The same thing with me. That was kind of what i was trying to say about not seeing their full abilities. That is kind of why i always defend people who full power we haven't seen, like Kisame for example. Yeah Minato took out those minor shinobi in Kakashi Gaiden, but besides that, we never saw him go up againist anyone stronger. We don't know how it would turn out if Minato went up againist Pain.
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Minato vs. Pein? What in the world? Pein doesn't lose, but I don't know about Minato.
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How about another match-up?

- Kurenai vs. Konan
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