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Old 04-11-2008, 09:46 PM   #1
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Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

We know among Sasuke's arsenal, he now holds all of Itachi's dojutsu. Right now, he can only cast Amaterasu in response to Madara activating the sharingan in closer quarters. But, the fact that he still has all of Itachi's dojutsu, means that in the future, he may be able to individually cast them when needed.

Right now it appears that Sasuke has gained a further step ahead of Naruto just by having Amaterasu. But is it possible that Naruto already posses an ultimate counter to that devastating eye technique?

Even though Amaterasu is known to burn for seven days and seven nights and continue to burn until its victim is consumed in its direct view, could it be possible that it can't burn through a certain substance?

Naruto holds two types of chakra. The red chakra belonging to the Kyuubi, has an incredible defense against all sorts of attacks. The down side is that with extensive usages of the tailed states, Naruto suffers damage over repeated healing due to the burning chakra, which results in accelerated growth of cells and eventual shortened life span.

But perhaps if Naruto taps into the cloak just briefly, he can make great use of his defensive abilities without causing too much or any damage to himself. Even the first tailed State's chakra was enough to make short work of Sasuke's fire elemental ninjutsu.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/10/

Of course the Amaterasu is much stronger than some C-B rank fire elemental ninjutsu, but the 4th tailed state's chakra was strong enough to even ward off Orochimaru's Kusanagi blade.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/296/03/

Of course that hardly tells us anything, but it just helps me prove that the Amaterasu may not be getting inside Naruto's body so easily.

We understand that Naruto will probably not rely on the 4th tailed state, but since he's getting the key to his seal, all of the Kyuubi power bestowed to him will be released, thus he'll obtain a great amount of powerful chakra for full use. Obviously he'll have to master it so he does not go into the tailed states, but with the mastery, perhaps he can put up his own shield to ward himself of that powerful fire.

We also know that the Kyuubi's chakra makes the air thick and fills it with malice, much like Amaterasu. The Kyuubi's chakra can even burn to a great extent if thrown in the direction of an opponent. The chakra can also level mountains and clear landscapes when concentrated.

Brute power like that, may even blow the Amaterasu away.

Now we know Sasuke's sharingan can suppress Kyuubi's chakra, but can he stop Naruto from diving into that chakra? I doubt it. I believe the only thing Sasuke can do with the sharingan is keep the Kyuubi from helping Naruto. With further mastery of the Kyuubi's chakra, Naruto can help himself. Remember that chakra is in his system, he can draw it out by focusing.

This is just my thought about Naruto standing up to the Amaterasu.
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Honestly, I'm not so sure..

Just with all the Sharingan hype lately, Amaterasu is suppose to consume everything..including fire. I can't see it being put out by anything

But who knows.. I'm sure if it comes down to it, PnJ will nerf Amaterasu somehow :P
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Kage bushinnn that's how he counters it if a replacement fooled it then a kage bushinn which cannot be detected by a sharingan will do wonders.

Also sasuke only activated one eye or should i say only one eye activated since sasuke had nothing to do with it. Currently he hasn't shown mks in 2 eyes thus he has no other techniques madara is talking a bunch of bullshit which we will soon discover.

Itachi had 2 mks eyes active always not only 1 his left eye contained the amatrasu which is exactley what sasuke's eye had the left one.

If he truely had all the mks powers he should have 2 eyes activated till that's shown i won't take a villain's words for the truth especially not madara's who needs to use sasuek for something and kishi has contradcited himself how many times in the manga especially when talking about the uchiha and sharingan so yeahh...
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

I'm just saying if Madara is telling the truth. The Amaterasu that activated was only a fail-safe to keep Madara from getting to close. So it is to be assumed that Madara can't come close to him at all.

In the future, perhaps Sasuke can master the jutsu on his own along with the other techniques. That was what I meant if he used it on Naruto. I agree that Sasuke may not be able to control his new abilities, but with further training, perhaps he could...

Sure. Well If he catches the real Naruto, the fire will eventually chase him to death. I'm just stating the possibility that the Kyuubi's chakra may be the only weapon to fend off the Amaterasu. But I meant it in a more smothering kind of way. The chakra is so dense and thick, it may just eat it up. And when I mean about putting it out, I'm talking about those huge waves that Naruto can create when he thrust the force of the Kyuubi's chakra. That may cause the Amaterasu to blow off course or something.
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

well if the Kyuubi said that the uchiha blood is as foul as his own, then maybe theres a chance they balance each other out.

and at this point its hard to say what naruto will be capable of when he gets the combination to the seal. ultimately, jiraiya and his own father(we think) assume that it will benefit him in the end.

be cool to see if he didnt have to rely on the Kyuubi's chakra alone and created a jutsu with his wind element, powerful enough to suppress Amaterasu. i know its said to burn everything in its path, but wind cannot be grasped. its intangible.
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

I really don't how naruto will counter A MS sasuke
But , I hope he finds a way in the soon future
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Amaterasu is performed with one eye: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/389/

The other eye is also opened but it is not used, he might as well have it deactivated. There's no reason to believe Madara is lying yet.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:19 PM   #8
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Amaterasu is deadly but could be fired only in single direction at one moment.
If Naruto use his Kage bunshins to constantly counter attack Sasuke from many sides at once, it could cause enough distraction to keep real Naruto in relative safe position.
Furthermore, it is interesting question what would happened if bunshin is caught by black flames and goes "puf". Will all flames disappear in the same moment as well, or they will be spread all around because of releasing a bunshin? If it is the first, then it is a plus for Naruto.

Beside, as other MS techniques, Amaterasu requires huge ammount of chakra and took tool on caster well, so it is logical to presume it could not be used long. We don't know exactly how long, but it is certainly shorter then Naruto's ability to produce calculated number of bunshins.

EDIT: Finally, we saw Jiraiya using some ninjutsu technique to capture Amaterasu in a scroll. I don't know did he teach Naruto how to do that, but if he did then it could come in handy in certain scenarios too.

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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Do you honestly believe Sasuke would activate Amaterasu just to have it countered by BUNSHINS? Ok I know a lot of people really hate Sasuke, but please give him some credit, he is not a complete retard. He knows very well Naruto's use of clones, and would not activate it unless he had a real shot of looking at the real Naruto. At that point there is currently not much Naruto could do except for saying a last prayer.
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Do you honestly believe Sasuke would activate Amaterasu just to have it countered by BUNSHINS? Ok I know a lot of people really hate Sasuke, but please give him some credit, he is not a complete retard. He knows very well Naruto's use of clones, and would not activate it unless he had a real shot of looking at the real Naruto. At that point there is currently not much Naruto could do except for saying a last prayer.
Actually nobody hates sasuke that much to say he is an idiot but he can easily be fooled.

Sharingan cannot see which is a bushinn and which is not further more it has a whole big ass blind spot once you get behind them.

Naruto captured kakashi like this and itachi was fooled by kakashi like that because he couldn't realize what is a bushinn till he used genjutsy and saw kakashi wasn't effected.

Now sasuke wouldn't be able to tell which is the real one or naruto's timing has become so good he has fooled kakashi and deidara i would say kakuzu but he was kinda dumbed down a bit so i won't mention him.

Pre timeskip he fooled guys like kidamru who isn't an idiot actually far from it.

Say he makes 2 bushins one hides near by while the fake one is facing sasuke he uses amaterasu and bam sees that he fails because after the time skip it is shown that naruto's bushinn's can with hold some damge instead of poofing away like usually in part 1. It's only logcial as sensarutobi's were able to take powerful hits and still stand.

Sorry Trondah but if itachi was fooled by a replacement then naruto the king of tricking can fool witha fake body which cannot be noticed by the sharingan hell even neji couldn't see which is real because naruto has such high chakra he divides them equally.

Also we have yet to see if it was madara who evoked it or not for now it's up in the air. and sasuke still needs to learn how to control it if it was indeed itachi who evoked it on him.
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Sasuke and Naruto need great time to master their techniques and while doing that I don't think Madara is going to wait...
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Ok, I know you think Naruto's bunshins are the best thing since sliced bread, that he will discover Atlantis with it and end the war in Iraq etc. The fact is he would be dead if Kakashi didn't saved his ass all the time, and he will need something more than bunshins to accomplish anything.
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What you call unpredictable I call common sense. He fooled Kidoumaru with his bushins, wow that was an awesome strategy make 6 clones fight while you hide yourself! WOW. Amaterasu cannot be countered by Naruto's current state, it would be impossible the way he is right now. Basic common facts have shown that Sasuke is stronger, smarter, and faster than Naruto is. Sasuke knows Naruto's fighting style better than anyone, he can fight on equal grounds with his third tome sharingan when Naruto was spitting out kyuubi juice.(in part 1, till the tail popped out) Sasuke knows how so called "unpredictable" (which is total bullshit) Naruto is. Apparentally common sense is now called unpredictable.





Naruto doesn't have to worry about Amaterasu anyways, its a shitty techinque unless it actually hits. He should be more worried about Sasuke blocking out his Kyuubi resources with his Sharingan and being able to fight on equal grounds while relying on his own ability.
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What you call unpredictable I call common sense. He fooled Kidoumaru with his bushins, wow that was an awesome strategy make 6 clones fight while you hide yourself! WOW. Amaterasu cannot be countered by Naruto's current state, it would be impossible the way he is right now. Basic common facts have shown that Sasuke is stronger, smarter, and faster than Naruto is. Sasuke knows Naruto's fighting style better than anyone, he can fight on equal grounds with his third tome sharingan when Naruto was spitting out kyuubi juice.(in part 1, till the tail popped out) Sasuke knows how so called "unpredictable" (which is total bullshit) Naruto is. Apparentally common sense is now called unpredictable.





Naruto doesn't have to worry about Amaterasu anyways, its a shitty techinque unless it actually hits. He should be more worried about Sasuke blocking out his Kyuubi resources with his Sharingan and being able to fight on equal grounds while relying on his own ability.
Lol D i hate when you do this to me lmfaoo.

Yes but now in part 2 his timing is a lot better and like you said unless sasuke sharingan can see which naruto is real then he can't get him. I know sasuke is smarter,faster i wouldn't say stronger till he actually gains control of amaterasu that is if madara didn't evoke it on him purposely.

Either way yes he is smarter but that didn't stop naruto from fooling him like twice in the vote fight and once in the roof top fight he though he got all the bushinns but missed one and didn't see were the real one was.

Fact is kage bushinn can and will trick him itachi is smarter faster and stronger then sasuke but he was fooled by a REPLACEMENT sasuke isn't any more special inf act he is less talented and less smarter and stronger..... so he will get fooled.

@Trondah yes we all know you love sasuke and in your eyes he is a god but sorry till it shows that sasuke is smarter faster stronger then itachi he will get fooled because shairngan cn't see a real from fakein naruto's case not even a byakugan can.
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Re: Naruto's counter for the Amaterasu?

Haha, I can see Sasuke using Amaterasu on a bushin and dying of fatigue. Perfect ending, I'd lol more than I did when Itachi died by SUPER aids.

Seriously though, Katon jutsus suck badly. I don't see what the big deal is, really even Amaterasu is crap, sure it burns to a point that the flames turn black, but still... we saw how easily it was dodged lmao.
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