The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread - Page 7

RNB · 07-17-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LonelyNinja

Actually, there are more than two parties. Thing is, they don't have enough funding to have huge campaigns like the Democrats and Republicans, but there's the Independent party, Green party, etcetera. They can get enough funding if they get enough votes during the presidential race, even if they don't win. They just need a certain percentage.

Anywhozit, onto my opinion: I think America's screwed either way. Obama isn't experienced enough to be president and McCain is old and probably crazy. Sure, it's entirely possible that one or the other will be a great president, I'm just saying it isn't very likely.

The system is flawed and it is undemocratic because of the influence that funding puts on a voter. Since these two parties are funded so much, people have to compromise the vote for the candidate they truly like in order for one who has some of their views and might win. That is not democracy. If anything, America is much more republic than democracy (for all the noobs this is not democrat vs repbulican.) I mean, look at me. I support Ron Paul's radical (But actually more conservative than anyone else's) views, but I know he will never win because he lost the Republican primary. Therefore, I have to pick between two candidates if I even want my views supported in the White House. So I have to pick Obama, who is for more socialism, something Ron Paul was completely against.

Minamoto4444 · 07-20-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Redneckboy

The system is flawed and it is undemocratic because of the influence that funding puts on a voter.

As my parents always said "people have a right to stupidity"

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Originally Posted by Redneckboy

Since these two parties are funded so much, people have to compromise the vote for the candidate they truly like in order for one who has some of their views and might win. That is not democracy.

In a way you are right, but looking back, ALL elections were that way, the only problem is ever since the fall of the soviet union and the end of the cold war not many good leaders have popped up to guide this country and stray away from sissyness.

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Originally Posted by Redneckboy

If anything, America is much more republic than democracy

Wait, what? go wiki Democracy and read what it says, then do the same for Republic.

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Originally Posted by Redneckboy

for all the noobs this is not democrat vs repbulican.) I mean, look at me. I support Ron Paul's radical (But actually more conservative than anyone else's) views, but I know he will never win because he lost the Republican primary. Therefore, I have to pick between two candidates if I even want my views supported in the White House. So I have to pick Obama, who is for more socialism, something Ron Paul was completely against.

I myself am a Reaganist republican,(pretty much a bit more government control that the libertarian views) but I found all of the reagan republican candidites big wusses, saying anything to get elected, And like you I was a Ron Paul supporter, only guy who said something OTHER than what his speechwriter could find in Hills dumpster.

RNB · 07-21-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Minamoto4444

As my parents always said "people have a right to stupidity"

I don't think you get it. What I am saying pretty much has the same effect of not having the voters hidden when voting.

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In a way you are right, but looking back, ALL elections were that way, the only problem is ever since the fall of the soviet union and the end of the cold war not many good leaders have popped up to guide this country and stray away from sissyness.

1st election wasn't.

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Wait, what? go wiki Democracy and read what it says, then do the same for Republic.

The USA's government is defined by most to be a democratic-republic. I said that we are more republic, than democratic. This is because our country has taken more and more power on the people so all we really have is an impact on our leaders, and not so much our laws.

Trey · 08-29-2008, 12:58 AM

Obama's speech was pretty good; he said some riveting things. It'll be interesting to see how the GOP responds.

Dizzykilla · 08-29-2008, 01:20 AM

i watchd the john daily show a few time with in the last week......the demo's are really pushhing it to the limit bring out ever populare sen or sen husbands

*(or even wifes) obama looks strong, real stong, i say the overall confrence looks really good. but i find it quickly boring after awile, ps the video intro's in this democratic convention are very badd, just badd

Spiegel · 09-02-2008, 11:12 PM

So what do you guys make of McCain's decision to randomly pick a small time Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin, someone with very little experince on homeland security, military command experience, ect...? This is a decion made by a guy who scrutinized the Democratic party for nominating a guy for the same reasons, no experiance. On top of McCain is old and has a long history of medical issues and to choose a running mate with so little experience who could potentially become the commander and chief of this nation is very irresponsible on his part. I don't want to say anything offend McCain supporters but this just seems weird on his part because he only met her once before last year and again last month to extend to her the position of VP through a short meeting. What are your takes on this matter?

Pride · 09-04-2008, 06:39 PM

He did it to get votes from Hillary supporters.

HaX3 · 09-04-2008, 10:34 PM

I personally dont give a shit, but thats my opinion on our lovely and yet redkeck country, I mean thy USA is US Gay why do we have wannabe power hungry losers with no life running this country, Black president sure, Woman president sure, Mongolian president, now thats a way forward. GO Stars and Stripes and Spots and tartan XD

zer0systm · 09-05-2008, 11:51 AM

You know im not a Yank, but I hear it's not compulsary for you guys to vote... I have to vote tomorrow for a new Premier of Western Australia, and if i don't vote i get fined, where as you guys dont have to vote if you dont give a fuck, now i gotta take time outa my day to write on a piece of paper which guy i think is the lesser wanker, personally i think they are both on the same level....you know what fuck it im not going to vote, i don't like either of the dicks so why should i give points to some knob i dont even like. and i'd wish they'd get this Yank election over its taking space in my fkn newpaper under the world section, there has to be more happening than a buncha dicks rolling round in black cars kissing babies, which is a point i can bring up universally, well kind of, i want you guys to think about how often you hear bout some dick politician visiting sick people in hospital and kissing babies when there is nothing to do with an election going on, do these cunts think we are stupid or something?? surely they realise we notice that they only stand round in a hospital or retirement home during election, pfftt i think its safe to say all Politicians are wankers

RNB · 09-05-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zer0systm

You know im not a Yank, but I hear it's not compulsary for you guys to vote... I have to vote tomorrow for a new Premier of Western Australia, and if i don't vote i get fined, where as you guys dont have to vote if you dont give a fuck, now i gotta take time outa my day to write on a piece of paper which guy i think is the lesser wanker, personally i think they are both on the same level....you know what fuck it im not going to vote, i don't like either of the dicks so why should i give points to some knob i dont even like. and i'd wish they'd get this Yank election over its taking space in my fkn newpaper under the world section, there has to be more happening than a buncha dicks rolling round in black cars kissing babies, which is a point i can bring up universally, well kind of, i want you guys to think about how often you hear bout some dick politician visiting sick people in hospital and kissing babies when there is nothing to do with an election going on, do these cunts think we are stupid or something?? surely they realise we notice that they only stand round in a hospital or retirement home during election, pfftt i think its safe to say all Politicians are wankers

Look up Ron Paul. The "most honest man in congress." Though he is a US politician.

Dagoro · 09-08-2008, 03:42 PM

This election is scary !!!

How are the Democrats not ahead by a land slide ?? Have people not had enough of this crap for the last 8 years ??

Our economy is in the trash, people are losing their homes and health care and here we have Mccain and Palin who will continue the war on Iraq which was based on lies and completely demolished out economy and out standing on the world stage. How can people support this man ?? not only that what about the threat of a war with Iran ?? this is ridiculous. Are we leaving in a twilight zone ??

I do not agree with Obama on everything but at least he is sane enough to see what a horrible mistake this war is. thats why ill vote for him this year.

RNB · 09-08-2008, 04:21 PM

I really don't see the difference between Obama's foreign policy and McCains's. They both want to intervene with other nations, which is just as bad as staying in Iraq.

As far as the economy, both of their policies suck.

**Ninja48** · 09-09-2008, 10:23 PM

There are cases in which conflict is necessary. Obama is against unnecessary conflict, i.e. Iraq, whereas McCain is not. 100 year war, etc.

Hooray social liberalism. Obama will strengthen those ideals within the country. Freedom cannot prevail unless the citizens are taken care of by the government. Protection is not the only thing government is for.

Dagoro · 09-09-2008, 10:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs

how low can Mccain get....

RNB · 09-10-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja48

There are cases in which conflict is necessary. Obama is against unnecessary conflict, i.e. Iraq, whereas McCain is not. 100 year war, etc.

Hooray social liberalism. Obama will strengthen those ideals within the country. Freedom cannot prevail unless the citizens are taken care of by the government. Protection is not the only thing government is for.

Iran and Darfur and Obama's Iraqs. Seriously, he has an interventionalist policy, which is highly flawed. We are going to still be putting sanctions and embargos on other nations. It is ludicrous.

Also, while I have no evidence to support this, violence is a never-ending cycle. The more we use it, the more danger we face in the future.

08-29-2008, 12:58 AM	#94
Trey Legendary Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,251 Thanks: 139 Thanked 538 Times in 300 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread Obama's speech was pretty good; he said some riveting things. It'll be interesting to see how the GOP responds.

08-29-2008, 01:20 AM	#95
Dizzykilla Special Jounin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Racine, Wisconsin Age: 26 Posts: 2,383 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread i watchd the john daily show a few time with in the last week......the demo's are really pushhing it to the limit bring out ever populare sen or sen husbands (or even wifes) obama looks strong, real stong, i say the overall confrence looks really good. but i find it quickly boring after awile, ps the video intro's in this democratic convention are very badd, just badd __________________ 1.14.20.9 - 14.15.15.2* DIZZYKILLA PAINT PROGRAM

09-02-2008, 11:12 PM	#96
Spiegel Pirate King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grand Line (New World) Age: 25 Posts: 4,931 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 1,625 Times in 857 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread So what do you guys make of McCain's decision to randomly pick a small time Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin, someone with very little experince on homeland security, military command experience, ect...? This is a decion made by a guy who scrutinized the Democratic party for nominating a guy for the same reasons, no experiance. On top of McCain is old and has a long history of medical issues and to choose a running mate with so little experience who could potentially become the commander and chief of this nation is very irresponsible on his part. I don't want to say anything offend McCain supporters but this just seems weird on his part because he only met her once before last year and again last month to extend to her the position of VP through a short meeting. What are your takes on this matter? __________________ "Inherited will, the destiny of the age, and the dreams of its people. These are things that will not be stopped. As long as people continue to pursue the meaning of freedom, these things will never cease to be!" -Gol D. Roger Ex-Kakashi87

09-04-2008, 06:39 PM	#97
Pride Change is coming Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 23 Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread He did it to get votes from Hillary supporters. __________________ [1.14.20.9 - 14.15.15.2]

09-04-2008, 10:34 PM	#98
HaX3 Academy Student Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Over fucking there! Age: 31 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread I personally dont give a shit, but thats my opinion on our lovely and yet redkeck country, I mean thy USA is US Gay why do we have wannabe power hungry losers with no life running this country, Black president sure, Woman president sure, Mongolian president, now thats a way forward. GO Stars and Stripes and Spots and tartan XD __________________ I will now tell you to fuck off, good bye sir!

09-05-2008, 11:51 AM	#99
zer0systm Antagonist Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West. Australia Age: 24 Posts: 1,012 Thanks: 4,263 Thanked 8,045 Times in 2,868 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread You know im not a Yank, but I hear it's not compulsary for you guys to vote... I have to vote tomorrow for a new Premier of Western Australia, and if i don't vote i get fined, where as you guys dont have to vote if you dont give a fuck, now i gotta take time outa my day to write on a piece of paper which guy i think is the lesser wanker, personally i think they are both on the same level....you know what fuck it im not going to vote, i don't like either of the dicks so why should i give points to some knob i dont even like. and i'd wish they'd get this Yank election over its taking space in my fkn newpaper under the world section, there has to be more happening than a buncha dicks rolling round in black cars kissing babies, which is a point i can bring up universally, well kind of, i want you guys to think about how often you hear bout some dick politician visiting sick people in hospital and kissing babies when there is nothing to do with an election going on, do these cunts think we are stupid or something?? surely they realise we notice that they only stand round in a hospital or retirement home during election, pfftt i think its safe to say all Politicians are wankers __________________ Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway. Last edited by zer0systm; 09-05-2008 at 11:53 AM.

09-08-2008, 03:42 PM	#101
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,806 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,308 Times in 2,911 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread This election is scary !!! How are the Democrats not ahead by a land slide ?? Have people not had enough of this crap for the last 8 years ?? Our economy is in the trash, people are losing their homes and health care and here we have Mccain and Palin who will continue the war on Iraq which was based on lies and completely demolished out economy and out standing on the world stage. How can people support this man ?? not only that what about the threat of a war with Iran ?? this is ridiculous. Are we leaving in a twilight zone ?? I do not agree with Obama on everything but at least he is sane enough to see what a horrible mistake this war is. thats why ill vote for him this year. __________________

09-08-2008, 04:21 PM	#102
RNB El Topo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 20 Posts: 1,169 Thanks: 3,294 Thanked 1,887 Times in 822 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread I really don't see the difference between Obama's foreign policy and McCains's. They both want to intervene with other nations, which is just as bad as staying in Iraq. As far as the economy, both of their policies suck. __________________ "Nature loves to be hidden." - Heraclitus

09-09-2008, 10:23 PM	#103
Ninja48 48 Cypherin' Ninjas Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 305 Posts: 2,466 Thanks: 182 Thanked 644 Times in 257 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread There are cases in which conflict is necessary. Obama is against unnecessary conflict, i.e. Iraq, whereas McCain is not. 100 year war, etc. Hooray social liberalism. Obama will strengthen those ideals within the country. Freedom cannot prevail unless the citizens are taken care of by the government. Protection is not the only thing government is for. __________________

09-09-2008, 10:36 PM	#104
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,806 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,308 Times in 2,911 Posts	Re: The Official 2008 Presidential Election Thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs how low can Mccain get.... __________________

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