ShinobiKnight

You're directly contradicting Scripture here. It says, multiple times, that the devil is real. He even directly tempts Jesus.
He loves us enough to give us free choice. You can very well believe God is real without seeing him. That's a bullshit excuse there.
The latter is untrue, as it is never mentioned in the Bible. As for the former:
Right from the mouth of the man you claim to believe is your Savior. Contradict that.
He does. But he also wants you to submit to his will. You're free to have fun and enjoy yourself, as long as you don't do anything the Bible tells you not to. There's Scripture about this somewhere in the New Testament, I know. One of the letters of the apostles.
Now that's just illogical. The Scripture is "God-breathed". Not "God-breathed, but filtered by biased human minds". You're adding to the Scripture to make it convenient.
What the fucking hell are you talking about? God in the OT is portrayed many, many times as a loving, kind God. Want examples?
Also, this goes back to the "God-breathed" thing.

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ThyMaiden

like I have said before
when you attribute that kind of things to the masses you are taking credibility from the bible.
whenever the Israelis sinned god punished them.
if the Israelis would have done that god would have punish them
and if they didnt wrote it in the bible, who know what else they havent
taking credibility to your all religion.

RNB

Satan translates to adversary. The translation you are using is biased. Pretty much all of them are to a degree, when it comes to the devil. Just to show I am not a lunatic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan

Look at "Etymology"


It isn't a real choice if I can't even observe the person who is giving it to me. Is it really a choice to say, "Convert or I damn you to hell?" That is what your God says. You see God as one who punishes evil. I see God as one who wants to phase evil out through voluntary choice? Whose God is actually giving free choice?

It doesn't say that people will go to hell if they are not baptized. I acknowledge baptism as a voluntary public declaration to follow Jesus into the Kingdom of God. That way, other people may help you in your walk. You don't need to do it though.

A relationship does not consist of a slaver driver whipping his slave to get him to do what he wants to do.

No. The words "God-breathed" do not mean that God controlled the pen that wrote on the paper. It means that one was influenced by God.

God tells Israel to kill everyone in Jericho.
God buries Sodom and Gomorrah.
God kills an extended family because a guy, "spills his seed."
God gambles with Satan to see how good of a servant Job is.
God forces Assyria to conquer Northern Israel (Assyrians impaled their victims.)
God forces the Babylonians to invaded the Southern Kingdom.

Seriously, you think God did all of that?

There isn't much credibility in the Bible period. The fact that it claims that there is a God is enough. A flood where every two animals are taken. The earth being created in seven days. Yup, all credible.

Now there is some credibility. We do have evidence of rebellions being stirred up during the Roman times about a guy titled, "Cristus." We have letters written by people about the conflicts between the Jews at that time. Also, some of the history of the OT has been proven to be correct.

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Kina

God also sent his own son to be tortured and killed and to chill in Hell for a couple days. Religion isn't absolute, that's why it's faith.

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RNB

The Bible never actually says he went to hell. Also, why he was killed is another thing I disagree with most Christians with. I never claimed religion was an absolute anyways.

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dEcCrIx

Diablo 2 FTW!

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