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Old 01-17-2009, 12:24 PM   #106
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I think the only way it could turn into a technique is if he has mastered a second nature manipulation, which would probably be fire or water. hopefully fire.
Of all the training Naruto did, we have not once seen him practice nature manipulation of another element. We've seen him do Frog Katas (sp?), Sage Mode, his mysterious technique, and lifting bolders; however no new element yet.

I'm not picking on you Ramen Man, I'm getting ticked off at people wanting and wanting for it to be an elemental attack of water or whatever. So do I, but I understand where it would need to fit into the story and where it wouldn't.

Naruto didn't go to train with the toads to learn another element justu, he trained almost exclusively to master Sage Mode and do it while moving. He won't have a dual/other elemental jutsu just yet...Now later on when he does (and I believe he will) that will be bad ass.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #107
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

well i think tha the fight is going to be like this naruto will kick some more pain asses until god pain is left the the real battle starts with all kind of jutsus on painĀ“s part.. naruto will show us the fruit of his traing.. katas some more advance KB use and in the end they will be all beat up
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Yeah, when he'll be able to use another element knows nobody, but it simply has to be Water Element because of his mother Kushina being from the Whirlpool Country and since "Uzumaki" means "whirlpool" (kind of) it would really be possible...
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Of all the training Naruto did, we have not once seen him practice nature manipulation of another element. We've seen him do Frog Katas (sp?), Sage Mode, his mysterious technique, and lifting bolders; however no new element yet.

I'm not picking on you Ramen Man, I'm getting ticked off at people wanting and wanting for it to be an elemental attack of water or whatever. So do I, but I understand where it would need to fit into the story and where it wouldn't.

Naruto didn't go to train with the toads to learn another element justu, he trained almost exclusively to master Sage Mode and do it while moving. He won't have a dual/other elemental jutsu just yet...Now later on when he does (and I believe he will) that will be bad ass.
On the toad mountain, Naruto was training in secret at nights. That was the cause of the speculation. I remember my argument when Naruto, in one panel (of what chapter, I forgot), has drops of water on his face and shoulders. Sweat vs water element training.

So it is a valid/basis speculation (or is it prediction? I can't tell the difference).
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

my guesses are that human realm and animal realm will get their asses handed to naruto in the next chapter but hell realm will bring back one of them so naruto can see what he can do and then kick his ass and then will end with God realm and naruto stare at each other
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If his spirit monster can kill multiple targets than Hell ream can revive multiple bodies. How many?? we don't know. But in the jiraya vs pein battle he raised animal,hungry ghost and demon realm at an alarming speed. It all comes down to this next justu of Naruto's. If its as powerful as our speculation it might take down animal and Hell.
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It would be good to take out hell realm first because it doesnt seem like it takes hell realm long to heal the bodies.. i mean look at demon realm.. he was in bits and pieces and hell realm healed him and put him together rather quickly.
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I'm interested in seeing where Kishi's going to take all this. Right now, we have Danzou and Hawk who'd most likely show up when this battle's over. But neither of them's going to have much to do as Pain pretty much destroyed Konoha. Danzo has nothing to rule and Sasuke has nothing to destroy. And who knows? Orochi-Kabuto may show up at any time. I think we've got enough to keep us on the edges of our seats for quite a while.
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

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I remember my argument when Naruto, in one panel (of what chapter, I forgot), has drops of water on his face and shoulders. Sweat vs water element training.
Its most likely sweat though. In the distance we can see the top of mountain being leveled off. That's smoke or dust from the mountain coming off, not mist. So Naruto is probably sweating because he's exhausted.

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Well he did learn how to use Senjutsu and Frog Katas. So they did train him while he was in Sage Mode. However I do agree that Naruto most likely did not learn another elemental ninjutsu. When Naruto was away, he was either trying to complete his Wind Manipulated Rasengan, or developed another Wind Technique.
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

I agree with TSO here. It hasn't been too long since naruto discovered his wind element, and even so he's only incorporated it into 1 technique, creating Fuuton: Rasenshuriken. I expect that he is likely working on other wind based techniques. I still think this big technique could be an altered version of rasenshuriken, but i wouldn't be surprised if we see a new wind technique at some point during the fight.

As for the whole "waves of rage" debate, i don't think it really has a deeper meaning. I believe it's just commentary from Kishi on naruto's state of mind and i don't see any suiton techniques coming anytime soon.
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post, by the way. I'd like to put in my two cents re: what I think will happen in chapter 432.

I'd like to talk about the Pain bodies that are left (or, more accurately, the paths that are left), Naruto's new jutsu, and how Sage mode works. I will stick to those three topics, as it's likely chapter 432 will not have room to go beyond those topics, if that.

Before I get started, a review of Buddhism as it pertains to the Rinnegan and Pain. There are six types of existence that are subject to passions, which usually triggers difficulty in beings: hell realm, hungry ghost realm, animal realm, human realm, demi-god realm, and god realm. (On a side note: suffering/difficulty ("samsara") and freedom with difficulty ("nirvana") are in all those realms, although realizing nirvana is easiest in human realm, as it is not colored as extremely by passions. For instance, the hungry ghost realm is colored by extreme greed, which is depicted by a ghost with a small throat that tries to swallow up everything but cannot get it past their throat and into the stomach, thus suffering from not being able to swallow everything it wants. This Buddhist concept is what Kishi creatively then turns into a character. Pain's ghost-realm body is the one that is able to "swallow" up all ninjutsu. Kishi uses the concepts regarding all the other realms into consideration when creating the other five of Pain's bodies, although I think Kishi took a lot of more creative license when developing Deva, Human, and Hell Pain, as being able to control gravity is not really in the Buddhist notion of god-realm). "Rinnegan" literally means "eye of samsara" or "eye of suffering" in the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese characters. As such, Pain can metaphorically (and possibly quite literally) only see suffering in the world. Pain's character development offshoots from that.
Here's a close-up of all the Pain bodies, courtesy of Kishi:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/01/

Having said that, Pain's demi-god body was destroyed first with Naruto's rasengan, and Pain's hungry-ghost body was destroyed by the frog katas. This leaves the animal (summoner) body, human (mind reader/soul-reaper) body, hell (punisher of liars/soul-eater/resurrector) body, and god (gravity-control) body.

At the end of Chapter 431, it is Naruto's move, and that is how Chapter 432 will most likely start. Naruto is making a hand-seal that strongly suggests he will do a Kage Bunshin to start things off (big surprise, huh). I think the Bunshins will do two things: distract or crowd-control the remaining Pain bodies, while allowing the real Naruto to collect more natural energy, if he needs any more. Remember, natural energy runs out and he can only collect some prior to battle as it's too dangerous to remain still during battle to collect the natural energy. Unless the kage bunshins protect him while he collects it. This speculation is supported by Kishi showing Naruto having a light-bulb moment when the frog-master says trying to be still and collect natural energy while moving, "...is like looking left and right at the same time," which is exactly what Kakashi said to Naruto when he was developing his Shuriken Rasengan. And we all know the Shuriken Rasengan used kage bunshin to start things off.

Naruto will use the newly collected natural energy to do his new jutsu, which Kishi implies takes lots of energy and quick chakra recovery. When Naruto first learns about Sage mode, and the benefits it brings to chakra recovery, he says, "Maybe now I can do THAT," referring to the new jutsu: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/15/

Most likely, the "new" jutsu is one that Jiraya and Minato entrusted with Naruto to complete -- and that Naruto hasn't used up to this point.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/11/

Now with sage powers, Naruto feels confident to use it and he has been shown secretly practicing it in Myobokuzan, after saying, "Maybe now I can do that" (see above). http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/

It seems Naruto summons clouds and the clouds (or what is summoned with the clouds) slices through the hilltops and leaves them toppled over. It is the ranged attack Naruto has been looking for, and most likely uses wind element, as we know from previous chapters that wind is used to slice through things. It seems this jutsu has a wide range and keeps slicing far into the distance. This area-of-effect is perfect to take out the remaining Pain bodies.

Pain will not die in chapter 432. Naruto's jutsu will probably be too fast for the remaining Pain bodies to dodge. Even if Pain dodges, the one to most likely dodge it is god Pain, who can jump really high. I have a feeling, however, that the fight will be more dramatic than that, with at least one of the Pain bodies having a counter. If so, that will give Naruto more pages to in Chpater 433 to fight, with Naruto the eventual winner, but the real Pain still alive somewhere. The real Pain will most likely disappear from the storyline for a while to recover his lost bodies, but still in charge of Akatsuki from afar. One premonition is that Pain will use Jiraya's dead body for one of the new Pain bodies -- something that will haunt Naruto (or extremely anger him) later on.

The reason I think Kishi will end the Naruto-Pain fight quickly is I think the other Pain bodies don't really have a chance against Naruto. For instance, hell and human bodies seem to need physical contact in order to extract souls and do damage -- something that most likely will not happen as Naruto is in sage mode. Animal body is almost out of summons (and the summons seem useless at this point). God body is probably the only one capable of retreating, but Pain is probably too proud to do that right now. Besides, Pain can always reclaim bodies and learn more about Naruto's moves by sticking around and sacrificing all his remotely-controlled bodies.
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Re: Naruto 432 Predictions

^its a good prediction, but yahiko pein can do damage to naruto since he simply blasts everything. also naruto gets tired after using his new jutsu. and lastly if pein can stall the battle by reviving his bodies he can wait for sage mode to stop.
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valid points and on the mark but Naruto has no fan, how can he deliver the same effect without help? Additionally since their within Konoha theres a chance he can just blow Pein to another part of the village without any assistance, he must make sure its a kill.
He doesn't need a fan. Temari used a fan to channel her chakra, making her attacks more powerful. But Naruto has no need for that, because he's firckin' awesome!

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I'm interested in seeing where Kishi's going to take all this. Right now, we have Danzou and Hawk who'd most likely show up when this battle's over. But neither of them's going to have much to do as Pain pretty much destroyed Konoha. Danzo has nothing to rule and Sasuke has nothing to destroy. And who knows? Orochi-Kabuto may show up at any time. I think we've got enough to keep us on the edges of our seats for quite a while.
Sasuke can always destroy the other half of Madara...er "Danzou's" face.

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Naruto will use the newly collected natural energy to do his new jutsu, which Kishi implies takes lots of energy and quick chakra recovery. When Naruto first learns about Sage mode, and the benefits it brings to chakra recovery, he says, "Maybe now I can do THAT," referring to the new jutsu: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/15/

Most likely, the "new" jutsu is one that Jiraya and Minato entrusted with Naruto to complete -- and that Naruto hasn't used up to this point.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/11/

Now with sage powers, Naruto feels confident to use it and he has been shown secretly practicing it in Myobokuzan, after saying, "Maybe now I can do that" (see above). http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/

It seems Naruto summons clouds and the clouds (or what is summoned with the clouds) slices through the hilltops and leaves them toppled over. It is the ranged attack Naruto has been looking for, and most likely uses wind element, as we know from previous chapters that wind is used to slice through things. It seems this jutsu has a wide range and keeps slicing far into the distance. This area-of-effect is perfect to take out the remaining Pain bodies.
Great post. I think this jutsu is the Rasengan Shirkin. That's the popular theory anyway. Like I said: I want to see Pain get cut in half!
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