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Old 03-19-2009, 08:39 PM   #151
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I honestly don't see that happening. Nagato has been following this ideology for a very long time. If Naruto was to change his point of view after 1 encounter it would make very little sense.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:44 PM   #152
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His crocodile tears aren't enough to make amends for Jiraiya and the pain Konoha went through (no pun intended).
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:57 PM   #153
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Naruto said that he can't forgive Pain because he kill Jiraya, and what about Kakashi, frog Pa and HINATA? what the hell? she said "i love you" and he just forgot abou this?

And I agree with Mystik, Naruto will try and make Pain change his mind. He will answer Pein question abou hatred.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:59 PM   #154
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I think nagato will hear naruto new ideal for peace but because of his over use of chakra he will die and naruto wont have to kill him and he will be like at least i can see peace in you naruto or something and konan will die because shes a puppet too
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You can put a box of puppies in front of Nagato and he still wouldn't let down his guard. Unless Kishi comes up with the most cheesy speech about bunnies and ponies Nagato will remain the same.
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His crocodile tears aren't enough to make amends for Jiraiya and the pain Konoha went through (no pun intended).
Sounds like you just don't want to see that happen. Up until this past chapter, I believed Naruto was going to break Nagato in half, but after he and his father talked about it, it seemed less likely to occur. It really seems as if Naruto will be taking the moral high ground of understanding and tolerance and actually FORGIVE Nagato, while answering his question of peace. And again, whether or not Nagato dies is still left to be determined. I just don't see Naruto with murder in his eyes as opposed to when he first arrived and smashed one of pain's bodies.
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You can put a box of puppies in front of Nagato and he still wouldn't let down his guard. Unless Kishi comes up with the most cheesy speech about bunnies and ponies Nagato will remain the same.
I say that he will try make Pain change his mind but i think Nagato will not change. You right I agree
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also minato enver said "he saw through my moves" he said"he saw through everything i did" but didn't say when or where or how... Im guessing he really did mean that perhaps he had plans to take down akatsuki and madara figured all of this out and attacked while he had a chance..

One thing is for sure if mianto says s powerful ninja it def means someone worth looking out for...
minato said " back then ..he saw through everything i did " ..
that's very Obvious .. he mean " when I fought him & the 9tails… that night , he saw through everything i did.
& let me say that this isn't enough to defeat the 4th ...
& i agreee ..when minato discribe. madara " he's no ordinary ninja " that's must be worth it ..

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Sounds like you just don't want to see that happen. Up until this past chapter, I believed Naruto was going to break Nagato in half, but after he and his father talked about it, it seemed less likely to occur. It really seems as if Naruto will be taking the moral high ground of understanding and tolerance and actually FORGIVE Nagato, while answering his question of peace. And again, whether or not Nagato dies is still left to be determined. I just don't see Naruto with murder in his eyes as opposed to when he first arrived and smashed one of pain's bodies.
So Sasori, Deidera, Hidan and Kazuku deserved to die but Pain doesn't? Pain did far more damage than all 4 of them combined and killed his own former master... "high moral ground," is a weak, weak argument. Morality, first of all lies completely in the realm of subjectivity, and besides I would think "tolerating" the Adolf Hitler of Narutoverse would be the worst choice ever.
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So Sasori, Deidera, Hidan and Kazuku deserved to die but Pain doesn't? Pain did far more damage than all 4 of them combined and killed his own former master... "high moral ground," is a weak, weak argument. Morality, first of all lies completely in the realm of subjectivity, and besides I would think "tolerating" the Adolf Hitler of Narutoverse would be the worst choice ever.

I'm not going to lie, that was stupid... bringing in Adolf Hitler. Because like Adolf, Tobi stands behind his arsenals and makes them work while giving the orders. So who can we really not forgive? Tobi. Unless you're trying to make the argument that because Germany was involved with Hitler we shouldn't forgive them either.
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I'm not going to lie, that was stupid... bringing in Adolf Hitler. Because like Adolf, Tobi stands behind his arsenals and makes them work while giving the orders. So who can we really not forgive? Tobi. Unless you're trying to make the argument that because Germany was involved with Hitler we shouldn't forgive them either.
Well, more like Adolf Hitler was a Vienna art school drop-out filled with hatred of the world because his little dream was shattered, not too unlike Nagato who is now a mass murderer with a God complex, potato potato. Well, one man (an Austrian) controlled Germany with an iron fist, Germany as a country did not decide to do it, the National Socialists did and even if they did that's one generation of Germans (and arguably most people haven't forgiven the Germans yet, or so the looks I get for speaking German tell me).

Secondly, so then why did the rest of Akatsuki deserve death? Were they not just as "innocent," by your warped definition? Courts of law are not about sob stories, they are about facts - Pain killed dozens of people with ease, ruined Konoha, killed his own master and at least crippled Kakashi and Hinata, all innocent people. Maybe I am just libertarian, but Pain's sad existence does not give him a free pass on mass murder, his life is not more important than anyone else's...
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Well, more like Adolf Hitler was a Vienna art school drop-out filled with hatred of the world because his little dream was shattered, not too unlike Nagato who is now a mass murderer with a God complex, potato potato. Well, one man (an Austrian) controlled Germany with an iron fist, Germany as a country did not decide to do it, the National Socialists did and even if they did that's one generation of Germans (and arguably most people haven't forgiven the Germans yet, or so the looks I get for speaking German tell me).

Secondly, so then why did the rest of Akatsuki deserve death? Were they not just as "innocent," by your warped definition? Courts of law are not about sob stories, they are about facts - Pain killed dozens of people with ease, ruined Konoha, killed his own master and at least crippled Kakashi and Hinata, all innocent people. Maybe I am just libertarian, but Pain's sad existence does not give him a free pass on mass murder, his life is not more important than anyone else's...

I agree, I don't believe he deserves a free pass. However, I still don't see him being killed at the hands of Naruto. Which reminds me, Gaara who at first glance of the series had only an intent to kill, and kill simply for the sake of killing changed after the battle with Naruto. I agree with everyone who thinks this is unrealistic, but I see this series turning a corner here and making the statement that even a horrid person such as Nagato can change their life and acknowledge their mistakes.
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I agree, I don't believe he deserves a free pass. However, I still don't see him being killed at the hands of Naruto. Which reminds me, Gaara who at first glance of the series had only an intent to kill, and kill simply for the sake of killing changed after the battle with Naruto. I agree with everyone who thinks this is unrealistic, but I see this series turning a corner here and making the statement that even a horrid person such as Nagato can change their life and acknowledge their mistakes.
He can accept death with honour then, there is simply no excuse for mass murdering individuals. In the world of Shinobi, or in any war zone, if the enemy shoots, you take them out, as simple as that, especially when they kill and destroy everything you love.
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I predict Sage mode will kill the last path, and the Naruto will then tell Nagato his answer to Pain's previous question. What Kishimoto intends for that answer to be, I'm not going to guess.
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He can accept death with honour then, there is simply no excuse for mass murdering individuals. In the world of Shinobi, or in any war zone, if the enemy shoots, you take them out, as simply as that, especially when they kill and destroy everything you love.
That's just it. Nagato himself is trying to make amends for the wars that took his family and friends. His idea may be warped, but he too is/was a victim. The fact that Tobi took advantage of his emotional trauma is what created the person he is.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/12/

See what I mean?
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