Mal

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Originally Posted by uchihademon91 seeing colors and hearing ringing aren't really hallucinations

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Originally Posted by uchihademon91 hallucination –noun 1. a sensory experience of something that does not exist outside the mind, caused by various physical and mental disorders, or by reaction to certain toxic substances, and usually manifested as visual or auditory images.

So then your argument is that these colours and ringing sound were actually there, and a stoned DA attributed it to the weed instead of coming to the obvious conclusion that altering your state of mind alters the physical world around you?

kluang

America have one rule. Capitalist rule.

And most of the marijuana planters is busted, why? Cuz America big pharmasutikal company wont let those home grown drugs sell. Thats why they make some nonsense sickness, like are you lonely, sad or depress and make LEGAL drugs to them while marijuana can cure those sickness.

Prescripe drugs are much worse then marijuana.

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feyfairysuckas<3

i love weed...

kittycat666

marhwana is amazing. its like getting dinner when your really hungry and finding a really long yummy hair in it.

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feyfairysuckas<3

There were 3 men and they all died in a car crash and went to hell. When they got there the devil asked them all in turn a question.
To he first he said "what was your biggest sin on earth?" and the man replied "Oh man I just love alchol and being drunk man" so the devil showed the man to a room full of alchol of every type and description and he put the man inside and said "see you in 100 years" and locked the door.


To the second man he asked the same question and the man replied "oh man I just love to have sex with the ladies, I was really unfaithful to my wife man". So the devil took the man and showed him to a room full of hundreds upon thousands of georgeous and beautiful naked women. The man ran inside and the devil said "see you in 100 years" and locked the door.


The third man's answer to the question was "oh man I just LOVE weed! Im high all the time man and I can't live without it!". The devil showed the man to a room packed with the most amazing grade-A bud you've ever seen, stacked to the roof! The man went inside and the devil locked the door after saying "see you in 100 years".


100 years later the devil came by to let the three men out. He opened the door to the first man's room and found the man collapsed on the ground, passed out with empty bottles laying around him and puke all over him. He was a mess.
The devil opened the 2nd man's door and the man came running out of the room and cried "IM GAY! IM GAY!". Finally the devil came to the third man's room and opened the door. Sitting in the middle of all the bud, in the exact same position the devil had left him in was the man. He looked up at the devil and with a single tear rolling down his cheek he asked ; "hey man, got a light?" - Thanks Alex

uchihademon91

ok.... so when you you get out of a pool with chlorine, and your eyes are burning and you see rainbow like colors, your hallucinating?? so you can hallucinate from swimming in a pool of chlorine?? and when you hear a loud pop, like a firecracker, and your ears are ringing, that is a hallucination also?? or is it only a hallucination if you smoke marijuana??

what kind of colors were you seeing when you were "hallucinating"?? was it a straight solid color that took up most of your vision?? like was the tree purple?? or were you only seeing colors outside during the day or near light?? seeing spots of colors that have a rainbow like attribute or seeing oddly brightened lights near a light source, that is just your eyes refracting the light differently than normal, which can be cause by a number of things. a hallucination would be more like looking at green balloon and seeing red.

are you saying that mind altering substances alter the physical world around you or is that what you thought i was saying. because if thats what you are saying than........ wow

@ fairy....... that was a fucked up joke.

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Miburo

A green balloon looking red? That isn't a hallucination, you could just be red/green colorblind, lolololol


Seriously, holy shit. Wow. What is wrong with you? Do a damn google search. Weed can cause hallucinations. Why are you even arguing about this? Your argument is semantics, and you're totally wrong. For fuck's sake, it's a goddamn hallucinogenic drug. What the fuck.

Mal

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Originally Posted by uchihademon91 ok.... so when you you get out of a pool with chlorine, and your eyes are burning and you see rainbow like colors, your hallucinating?? so you can hallucinate from swimming in a pool of chlorine?? and when you hear a loud pop, like a firecracker, and your ears are ringing, that is a hallucination also?? or is it only a hallucination if you smoke marijuana??

I see the problem here. You've been doing it wrong.

You're not supposed to smoke it with your eyes.


Seriously though, you can't compare physical changes in your body to neurological/chemical changes in your brain.

uchihademon91

first off..... looking at a green ballon and seeing red, when your high, thats considered color blind?? really?? i didnt say everytime you look at a green balloon you see red, then you would have a point. the going on the whole topic of the current subject, how did you come up with that. if every day of your life you look at a green balloon and see green, then one day your high and you look at the green balloon and see red, your suddenly color blind?? thats what you just said. that was a hypothetical situation by the way.

marijuana is classified as a hallucinagenic drug. i have never experienced, nor have EVER heard of anyone experiencing a hallucination. what kind of hallucinations have you guys had. i am very curious. im very doubtful you guys are actually smoking marijuana. or this marijuana was chemically enhanced in a lab of some kind.


i couldnt help but notice you highlighted the chlorine in your eyes part. that is a chemical reaction to your body that effects your neural receptors for vision. via, the chlorine in your eyes causes you to see colors. anything seen with your eyes is interpreted through your brain.

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Miburo

Did it seem stupid? Good. That was the point. I was mocking you.

You obviously don't even know what a hallucination is, so what you have and haven't experienced is irrelevant. And that argument is retarded anyway. I hesitate to use any analogies with you because you'll probably miss the point entirely and just say something stupid and off-point, but I know people who smoke that have never gotten lung cancer. That doesn't mean smoking can't cause lung cancer. Of course people's bodies are different, and they react differently to drugs. Certain effects can be pretty rare, or people may react completely differently to the same things. That doesn't change the fact that drugs can cause certain effects and reactions.

Pot can cause hallucinations. Fact. There is no arguing that, and there is absolutely no purpose in arguing it either. It just makes you look foolish and ignorant. Just stop.

Mal

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Originally Posted by uchihademon91 i couldnt help but notice you highlighted the chlorine in your eyes part.

Well, that is the reason it was bold.

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Originally Posted by uchihademon91 that is a chemical reaction to your body that effects your neural receptors for vision. via, the chlorine in your eyes causes you to see colors. anything seen with your eyes is interpreted through your brain.

The chlorine effects your eyes only. It in no way is magically transmitted to your brain. Chlorine in your eyes, just as damaging your ear drums -- or the hair cells in your Organ of Corti -- and hearing that ringing sound of which you spoke, causes no chemical changes in your brain.

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Q: What can you do if you think you may have been exposed to a release of chlorine? A: Quickly wash any chlorine from your skin with large amounts of soap and water, and flush your eyes with large amounts of water. via New York State Department of Health

Even if you were hypothetically capable of flushing your lungs, the chemicals are absorbed into your blood stream anyway, so it would be moot. Marijuana and Chlorine effect your body in completely different ways.

Unsubstantial side note: Chloramines are what cause irritation in pools, not the Chlorine itself. via Pool & Spa News on BNET.

The Man

Ok maybe I missed this but aren't cigarettes worse for you then marijuana is? I mean sure they both involve smoke which is obviously bad for your lungs, but dude I can inhale smoke from a fucking campfire for gods sake. It's the chemicals that are bad for you and I know damn sure that I'm more likely to get killed by cigarettes with their 3,000 deadly chemicals than marijuana joints with their 66 chemicals. I've tried both and I was WAYYYY more addicted to nicotine then I was to marijuana. After a week I was still thinking about cigarettes and marijuana was completely out of my mind. I was happier and much more relaxed with marijuana too, with cigarettes sure it calms me down a bit but I then get to spend the whole next day thinking I need a cigarette every time I get a little anxious. I'll take the side effects of marijuana over cigarettes anyday.

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Jaxon

If you really gave a shit about "side effects", you wouldn't smoke either of them. The TCP in marijuana erodes and destroys the connections in your brain, and heavy use leads to brain damage and insanity. Everyone knows a guy who lives weed, and doesn't really make any coherent sense. So, basically, it's your choice, either cough out your wretched excuse for lungs or lose your grip on what's really going on.

I'm not being a fucking health worker here, I wouldn't stop anyone smoking either, but you can't pretend that either are "okay". Just accept you're slowly chipping away at your body, and get on with it.

aeondrift

From my own personal observations, marijuana makes people stupid.