platinumrug

Who gives a flying fuck if Naruto is gay or not??? Lmao, come on.

__________________

YouTube

TheSixthHokage

Naruto has been a story of bonds since the beginning, circulating around the lives of Uchiha Sasuke and Uzumaki Naruto. Being a shonen ninja-themed adventure story about the brotherhood between the two, it is inevitable for people to jump to the conclusion that homosexual feelings exist between the two. This is rather intriguing as Naruto has constantly showed signs of attraction in the opposite sex, while being uncomfortable and indeed homophobic towards depictions of the male body. Not many male homosexuals avoid seeing that which they are attracted to. The counterargument that this is Naruto hiding his feeling seem to be very delusional as characters are displayed through entirely visual observation in manga. Naruto’s very reactions show disgust, so how are we the audience supposed to interpret it? When Sasuke hits an opponent with a genjutsu, should I simply assume it was ineffetive, despite visual evidence to the contrary? Commentary means nothing without the support of the manga. A few awkward panels (most of which can only be interpreted as homosexual, when one clearly is guided to it) that were done for humour do not matter.
Why is it interesting that Naruto and Sasuke kiss? The manga, particularly at the beginning, was aimed at teenage boys; what’s more hilarious to them than accidentally kissing another boy and hating it? Goku’s actions were done in the same fashion: for comic relief. The scene in which Sasuke and Naruto’s kiss takes place is quite intense, as Naruto is belittled into a sense of non-existence. The class hates him and loves Sasuke to the point of idoltary, so in a petty means to make himself feel big, Naruto challenged Sasuke by jumping on his desk. He was pushed into Sasuke and then both proceeded to nearly vomit. How this could be interpreted differently is rather interesting. By interesting, I mean faulty as a Soviet nuclear power plant in the Ukraine. Naruto doesn’t accidentally kiss Sakura because it wouldn’t be funny and would be meaningless unless both had the same feeling. This is a sign of a true or even a legitimate romance.
Wait? You’re arguing that Naruto is gay because he likes Sakura because of her physical appearance? Jesus F-ing Christ man. Lamesauce. So a physical attraction can be mimicked for years, so much that he stood up against Gaara for her? Wow, that’s some mighty peer pressure, considering Lee wasn’t met until the Chunin Exams.... must have been hard imitating someone you didn’t know. Er...Naruto thinks “I need to stop making a fool of myself in front of Sakura-chan” and blatantly stops to admire her growth, when has he done that for anyone else?
Naruto ignores Sakura’s confession because of the reasons, shocker!, provided in the chapter. He knows Sasuke is still in Sakua’s heart and she is fooling her self, thus why he becomes visually disappointed from being shocked. He’s a kid on Christmas who just found-out his present was fake. It’s been nearly 3 years of Naruto being sombre in his feelings around Sakura, knowing she loved Sasuke, why would he react incredibly strongly out-of-the-blue? After the death of Jiraiya, the near death of Kakashi and the Pain Arc, I fail to see Naruto being brought to tears about something as little as Sakura lying.
Really? Naruto and Sasuke rarely discussed their emotions. They expressed them in a typical male way: through actions. Just like brothers, they squabble and try to outdo one another, while in the end still loving each other. The panel you provide shows Naruto and Sasuke holding hands. You do realize that that holding hands is not homosexual right? Simply because it is not common in North American and European society does not mean it is homosexual. In Ethiopia, straight men constantly hold hands. It is only homosexual if you deem it so. You have aimed to do so in order to validate your weak argument. When does Naruto give up on his dream of becoming Hokage? He said “a person who cannot save his friend, cannot become Hokage.” In other words, saving Sasuke is the path to becoming Hokage. HUGE difference.
...Beauty and the Beast... seriously? Your historical analysis is rather faulty as in Sparta, a man’s duty was to provide the city-state with off-spring. Casual homosexual sex was not frowned on, until a man refused to have a wife, as was to be expected. This was state-supported bisexuality, not homosexuality. Good try. Wait. Having a coach who gets laid and being in the same pool of water means something is gay? Jumping to conclusions are we...
Naruto blatantly expressed his love for Sakura, constantly and while he has ignored Hinata, he has come closer to real romance with her than Sasuke. He has said to her “I like people like you,” with Kishimoto obviously hinting at more. Never in the manga has there even been a slight hint of homosexuality. You are stretching strong male-male relations to the breaking point. Naruto’s disinterest in Jiraiya’s books is not that shocking... some straight men don’t like strip clubs, does this mean they take it up the ass?
Naruto is constantly complaining about how Jiraiya forces him to go into the Pervy Jutsu, so why would he complain if it was what he wanted. Furthermore, when he desired attention from Jiraiya, as a male mentor, why did he not use it? He wallowed in self-pity, learning the Rasengan alone, without complaining... and guess what? He never used it to re-gain that attention Jiraiya gave him when they first met. Wait... you are arguing that a visual representation of his disgust is contrary to his inner feelings, despite the fact that the mode of media is entirely visual. Holy fuck. This is like me arguing the politics of a composer by listening to his music. Epic fail.
You are assuming that Narutoverse has homosexuals and is not a reflection of Kishimoto’s own cultural lens that is openly homophobic. Japan is a very conservative country and does not embrace homosexuality, thus why it is so often a scape-goat as in other cultures. Thinking that Sasuke feels a similar social pressure is also foolish and Sasuke wants to “re-build his clan,” somewhat difficult when one is homosexual.
Jesus Christ, the graffitti is graffitti. Haku was a very feminine boy, thus why Naruto was attracted to him. Why hasn’t Naruto been attracted to any boys since? Oh yeah. Because he’s straight. Another attempt by Kishimoto to be funny. Actually, his attempts are quite concurrent with being an orphan who desperately needs any attention. That technique was another source of humour, which was used against Gaara only because Naruto assumed “he’d be weaker at the bottom.” Strategy is key.
The last paragraph is such a stretch it’s not even worth my time. Anyone who is defeated is put in a position of less power, they are degraded in the social hierarchy. This can conjur thoughts of sexual hedonism, having that complete control over the other. But the defining factor of homosexuality is actually DOING of the acts... being naked with another man is not homosexual until sexual activity begins.
Furthermore, Sasuke leaning over to Naruto is more like a bow, a respectful admission of Naruto’s equal skills. Their similarities are as brothers, who hate and love each other at the same time.
In conclusion, Naruto is not gay. Arguments for his homosexuality are destroyed by a simple fact. There is not a single panel that shows Naruto being openly gay, participating in homosexual actions or admiring the physicality of other men. However there are entire chapters focusing on Naruto’s romantic relationships with Sakura and Hinata, whom both have feelings for him, in one way or another. His physical attraction to Sakura, open homophobia and classic brotherhood bond with Sasuke needs to be put into context. This is a Japanese manga for young men; conservative Japanese values and male-centred plot are obvious. Misinterpreting a male emphasis in a shonen for homoseuxality is an essentially faulty argument. Indeed, the whole point against Naruto and Sasuke bond as platonic can itself be explained as a very expression of homophobia. The closeness of two men, to a point beyond brothers, shatters the fragile mind of some who cannot accept male relationships that are of such strength. They can only interpret such relationships as sexual because they themselves have only felt such depth of emotion with members of the opposite sex, thus explaining to them why have failed to foster similar bonds.

__________________

liondemon

Naruto was too socially ignorant to pretend to have a crush on Sakura for so long. If he were gay, his 1st crush would have been a boy if not Sasuke. Naruto just has a bond with Sasuke that is best understood by saying, for 12 years Naruto had nobody. Sasuke, his worst enemy, becamme his teammate and after bonding for a while, he gave his life to protect Naruto from Haku. For someone cold and cool with goals like Sasuke to jump in the line of fire for hated, friendless, little orphan Naruto is something special to Naruto. It's creates an eternal bond that defies all labels and limits u typically put on typical bonds. It all began that day, built on the ultimate sacrifice of Sasuke's on life for Naruto's lfe. That tight of a bond may come off as so close it's too close, like it could be gay to some, but it isnt anywhere near gay.
Funny thread and posts

But Kishi does "gay play" in this manga enough for me to notice so... But when Naruto wakes up with the wood, he gets it soft again with thoughts of Hinata and Sakura. I promise

__________________
Ninja Assassin

Spiegel

^^whatever happen to spacing and indents?

__________________
"Inherited will, the destiny of the age, and the dreams of its people. These are things that will not be stopped. As long as people continue to pursue the meaning of freedom, these things will never cease to be!"
-Gol D. Roger

*Ex-Kakashi87*

rokudaime_hokage

^ i know tl;dr

TheSixthHokage

Sorry did it in word, isn't being that co-operative after being copied. You'll have to suffer through I am afraid.

__________________

Azumi

Oh wow, I cant believe your throwing that at me. lulz Im not the one who claimed that Naruto is fcking gay. And now you're telling me I took it out of context and fabricated some false argument? Talking about irony... The OP was claiming that Naruto developed a romantic feeling for Sasuke.

Say whut?

And oh, I know what a strawman is, kthx.

He did. With great assumption, btw.


The OP used that as one of the proofs for Naruto's alleged homosexuality. That's what I was trying to point out.

You said sexually arouse. Proof.

And oh.. for various reasons? Elaborate.

Coz they made me laugh? lawl


Oh lawl There was never a homo relationship in Tenjo Tenge. Guess what? It's entirely possible that homosexuality is looked down upon in their society! Takayanagi may be a freakin' gay!!!!

Not convincing, eh? That pretty much makes the OP's theory a complete personal opinion and/or assumptions. As if Kishimoto has any fetishes about homosexuality (not that Im claiming he does/doesnt). Seriously.. There are even less sign of romance in the story than expected/predicted, so why would Kishi give a goddamn fck about homosexuality for that matter?

Totally a personal opinion.

You seem to know a lot. =/

You mean those self-interpreted proofs?




EDIT: Anywho, regardless of homosexuality and whatnot, this thread WINS. (for the lulz and such)

__________________

jericho Uzimaki

This sounds convincing enough, true. but just because the argument is worded nice and dressed up in a suit doesn't mean it is fact. It just makes it a ...politician! Sure it sounds good and meaningful and heal down right believable....but sadly the promises are empty and the words unintelligible. Naruto isn't gay. He is a emotional child which he has always been from wanting to fit in to never giving up to sticking to his promises he has always been whole hearted and passionate in whatever or whoever he dedicates himself to.

Weak women characters makes Kishi gay?! LOL. Tsunade isn't weak, Anko isn't weak, Kurenai isn't weak.......Mizukage? not weak either. So the characters Male and female that need to be strong are strong, the others serve their purpose story wise . I mean i hate TenTen with a passion, but she helped neji train his 360 rotation and if Naruto needs to learn how to fight with summoning weapons she is the one to see.

__________________




Gamble

Joshua the Rogue

Transformers:Generations
For NaruHina fans

First Orange knuckle head ninja

The Question

Miburo

I guess I can add irony to the list of things you don't understand. Along with logical argumentation and supporting your claims. And everything the OP claims is supported by evidence found in the manga and logic.


If you know what it is, then why use it as an argument?


No, he didn't. You read it wrong.

Like I said, you read it wrong. He was pointing out a similarity between Sakura's actions involving Sasuke and Naruto's actions involving Sasuke. He never said anything even close to "lolol tryin 2 b strong = teh gay durr hurr" like you suggested he did.

Uh, are you serious? Seriously? Do you know what sexual arouse even means? He transforms into naked women. Naked women. Men. Sexual arousal? Any of this clicking yet?


LAWL

Don't say a theory sucks when you ignore and don't address half of it, is all I'm saying.
I've never read this Tenjo Tenge. But I'm pretty sure you're completely missing the point again.

Many societies are against homosexuality. Most are, in fact. It's not in any way erroneous to assume Naruto's society is likely similar. The fact that there hasn't been any openly gay characters is only pointed out to show that the society hasn't been demonstrated to be accepting of homosexuals, that's it. Nothing more. And if Naruto's society mirrors nearly all existing societies to date, then it explains why he would not be open about his homosexuality, or even unwilling to accept it himself. Exactly like many homosexuals in our society.
It's a theory based on evidence and logic. Not a personal whim.

Not really. And even if it was, I hope you're not suggesting that opinions themselves are invalid and can't be well-educated, plausible, etc.

Yeah, it helps to know what you're talking about. You should maybe give it a try sometime. ; )

I mean the logical arguments he presented and the evidence used to support them.

ThePRODIGY

to say naruto is gay is to say almost all the male characters in naruto to be gay

__________________
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs25/f/20..._by_nekoni.swf

Great clubs come join
Owner of The konoha 12/Next Generation shinobi fc or k.12/n.g.s.fc
http://forums.narutocentral.com/show...27#post1471427
rocklee fc
naruto fc
naruto pairing fc
lol

Vengeance

I haven't read the whole thing sense I'm drunk as shit but the fact that Naruto & homo is in the topic is enough to rep this. You're the fucking man wish I thought of making this thread first.

__________________

Screenshot from Shingeki no Kyojin.

Check out this awesome manga called Magi.

manta

Its true he's gay look:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/3/08/

It's like Myths gayness for the 4th and Naruto, plus you know he's jealous of Sasugey that's why he disses him.

Not that Naruto is real but yeh he gay.

__________________

Vengeance

I've personally preached about Naru-Sasu in the past but this just takes the cake. never thought of making an actual thread on the issue. everyone should rep this Naru-Sasu has more manga evidence when compared to any paring involving Naruto in this manga. Naruto loves the cock & the manga backs this up.

__________________

Screenshot from Shingeki no Kyojin.

Check out this awesome manga called Magi.

Playa

Know what the difference is between your wall of text & Tzu man's?

He intertwined canon evidence throughout his conjecture & simply stated a point of view/theory. Whereas you don't link any evidence, constantly ridicule those who find validity in the OP's theory and openly dismiss the idea since there has been no blatant panel showing Naruto in act of homosexuality.

Furthermore a tid bit to consider in regards to Kishimoto's cultural lens it should be well noted that he is influenced by the ancient japanese tales in formulating characters/jutsus & in ancient japanese literature, the topic of homosexuality was addressed & when it cames to same sex friends twas common place

edit: did anyone else have trouble typing? cuz i couldn't type in reply boxes til i cleared the cookies

__________________

Mal

Quote:

Originally Posted by playafosho99 did anyone else have trouble typing? cuz i couldn't type in reply boxes til i cleared the cookies

I have no trouble typing, but I'd like to add a little:

Quote:

Originally Posted by playafosho99 ...Whereas you don't link any evidence, constantly ridicule those who find validity in the OP's theory and openly dismiss the idea since there has been no blatant panel showing Naruto in act of homosexuality.

Just so you know, TSH, this particular argument (which you have made, don't try twisting your words) is commiting the Fallacy of Ignorance, "Naruto is heterosexual, because there's no proof he's not." Problem is, there is evidence, you're just unwilling to accept it because you're the one defending an opinion. We have no opinion to defend, we merely defend the evidence.