Shrike

Good match up.

I'd say Torune wins, but the battle would be very good.

The Special One

These bugs can act like termintes right considering chakra is embedded in the wood? They're chakra eaters, might be pretty bad if they link their way up to Yamato.

Yamato must attack from long range and use Wood clones. Close range is forbidden (unless Yamato want to be infested). Water is probably good to use. Bugs can be easily sent through soild matter. They might be drowned in water at least.

It would be an interesting fight.

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Torune vs Neji? Two death touches collide (no assuming abilities for torune because hes an aburame and they fight in konaha traning gounds at night)

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Myth

toune has shown 1 skill to use those bugs nothing else so no yamato would fucking rape him.. this guy needs to get close for his bugs to work yamato can fight all ranges...

yamto wins this..

ask me anything

Torune Vs Neji?

TIE

I don't see how neji could beat him without actually touching him. I don't think neji could kill him by closing off his chakra points, but he could kill him afterwards when torune falls to the ground. A few seconds later though neji would fall over completely infested with nano bugs.

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Nejis doesnt touch his opponent. He hits them with chakra so he never actually physicly touches them and even if he did nejis BG could see whats waiting if he does actualy touch torune.

I think neji could fend torune off long enough with chakra range blasts and kaiten before he landed a solid chakra blow to torunes heart causing cardiacarrest.

That is with what little we know about torune. The only reason I had his beat yamato is because yamato uses his mokuton to subdue which would cause the nanmite insects to travel back to yamato and deteriorate the wood in at the same time IMO.

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Myth

Neji has the advantage over Torune because he can see everything inside him....

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Torune vs Yamato

Both can fight at range. Yamato can easily subdue and capture Torune due to his wood attacks. he can also attack at that range, piercing wood can do the trick. but so does Torune, Torune can capture Yamato from afar with bugs, and can also attack from that range. At range, Torune has a wider range because of the bugs, but Battling in a forest also increases Yamato's range. At range, i'd say they have equal chances of winning. Melee combat is a no-no for Yamato. If they engage in melee, Torune would surely win. based on this circumstances, Torune 7-3 Yamato.

Torune vs Neji.
Aburame vs Hyuga. If Neji was battling Shino, he has chances of winning. but he's battling Torune, and fighting Torune with that kind of technique he has at melee range, Neji would surely lose. Torune is like Hidan in this scenario. Simply fighting him at close range puts the enemy at the highest risk of losing. And Neji is a melee fighter. Even if he is a taijutsu monster, His fighting style puts him at a disadvantage against someone who can kill with just a touch. Torune wins this. Torune 9-1 Neji.

Konnaha_yellow_flash

Heres one that has been done to death, but with a twist.

Healthy Itachi (since chakra pool was 2.5 at the brin of death it correct to assume a fully healthy itachi would have a 5 like naruto in chakra and stamina.) So itachi healthy with naruto stamina/chakra level, added speed, strength and less blind MS from being fully healthy VS pain?

Note: I brought back this fight after realising amaterasu is ignited directly on the opponent, not shot out of the eye at the opponent which mean shinrei tensai wont stop it and with pains kakashi level speed if even that, they will have no way to defend exept HG realm who can only do 1 at a time.
and After realising tsukuyomi is instant win, cant be broken out of by the other realms because its effects are instant which is the attack of the spirit, not body and by attacking the spirit of the body which is nagato himself, nagato is effected not just the body.

(in the Iron coutry where rai fought sasuke) GO!!!

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Nerox

i seriously doubt that itachi could have the same amount of chakra as naruto has. somewhere the manga stated, that narutos chakra was that high, because he has to keep the fox's chakra sealed inside.

itachi is like a better kakashi, but no match in chakra for jirayia or naruto...

i give this fight to pain, hands down...

- massive summons
- any ninjustu can be neglected by the fat pain (don't know of amaterasu, but itachi can't look at 6 different targets in the same instant...and would be killed by the other 5)
- shinra tensei, chibaku tensei
- soul eating demon
- and there are fucking 6 of them o0


pain vs itachi: 9 - 1

Konnaha_yellow_flash

Itachis healthy chakra/stamina level is 5 in DB stat stadards which is the same as naruto since he was at 2.5 on the brink of death, meaning only double since uchiha also have huge chakra pools which has been canonz for a while so no changing the circumstances just so pain can beat itachi.

So, IMO with the double chakra pool and stamina were would see double the karasu bushins, tsukuyomis and amaterasus and even a sustained sasanoo so pain really is matched in such a fight by the way itachi fights.

Itachi will start off with a bushin and spamming genjutsu which would be broken and would give itachi the impression about the sharing of vision which would allow for a strategy to seperate each realm.

And after getting some karasu bushins wasted itachi could learn about all the realms abilties and if in trouble like bansho tenined by deva, itachi could activate a partial sasanoo to block any attack.

So, with a strategy put together itachi can just climb inside of sasanoo and start wasting pain a realm at a time. Itachi can just sit back and amaterasu the strongest realms like deva, hell and demon while just using the sword of tosuka to kill HG, human and animal.

And with the yata mirror, if summons attack they will be stopped, if HG tried to absorb sasanoo he will be cut down and if deva uses ST he will be blown back like he did aginst the kyuubi and if basho tenin he will be sucked into sasanoo because sasanoo blocks all attacks as stated by the DB.

With itachi fully healthy and able to spam karasu bushins to learn about pains abilites then once figured out sit inside of sasanoo and pick the realms apart.

Itachi fully healthy 7-3.

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Nerox

yeah for sure...pain would stand still and let his path be slaughtered by susano'o...lol you're stupid...

pain could simply push susano'oed itachi backwards or chibaku tensei it...i think the jata mirror works against attacks, but gravitiy is no ordinary attack. so pain could wait until susano'o sucks itachi dry...

either that or wait until itachi releases susano'o. and then, pain clearly is in advantage. summons, the soul eating beast etc...

and until there is proof, that susano'o is imune against gravitiy, pain is the only ninja who could beat susano'o...for now
so KYF if you argue in your next post that susano'o is imune to gravitiy, prove it please. in points of logic, everything can be sucked in by gravitiy, and in physics bigger matters draw smaller matter...chibaku tensei > susano'o

pain > itachi (even with your "upgrade")

Konnaha_yellow_flash

[QUOTE=Nerox511;1778048]What the same way pain stood still and let naruto slow ass slaughter his realms, Yea!!!!

STs/BTs Gravity is an incroporial attack and a ninjutsu so sasanoo will block that shit as stated by the DB

Straight from kishi himself, the DB
The reason why Susano-o is boasted to be flawless in both offense and defence is due to the "spiritual equipments" held in both hands. The right hand wields the Totsukano Tsurugi sword that can bring down any enemies; the left hand holds the Yatano Kagami (Eight Span Mirror), which can repel all attacks. Be it physical or spiritual, ninjutsu or physical attacks, all these become futile in front of such godly effects.

ALL ATTACKS, not some, not almost all, but ALL ATTACKS!!! Including chibaku tensai which itachi could just run from since sasanoo moves with him.


IM sorry, but why would itachi who is a brilliant strategist release sasanoo unless al the realms are dead?? Since itachi is helthy he would be able to spam sasanoo until all realms are defeated.

Nope as posted above sasanoo with the yata mirror can repel ALL ATTACKS. And last I checked deva didnt use gravity, but magnetic attraction and repelinghttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...3/page005.html

See binktopias translation which I would trust more then a NC translation says devas power is attractive force like a magnent, not gravity.

And as its known the electromangnetic feild around the planet creates a force field which also can atract and repel.

Shhhiiiiiittttttt!!!

AN unhealthy itachi who can only use sasanoo for a short amount of time before he dies yes, but a healthy itachi who can spam amaterasu, more genjutsu, more karasu bushins and even spam sasanoo is unbeatable unless the enemy has a T/S jutsu and can use it to enter sasanoo. Or if the enemy has such shushin speed like rai who can kill instantly before itachi could even think to put up sasanoo.

So healthy sasanoo spamming itachi>pain without a doubt!

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Nerox

luckily this debate is totally unnecessary, because itachi was never shown using susano'o while in perfect health.

i will stop discussing this fight now, because we are dealing with an unbalaced kishimoto hax, the susano'o, and you propose a duell with an advantage for a person, who was never shown as you propse in the manga.

but at last, enlighten me: how should susano'o be able to break free of the chibaku tensei? would itachi send all the earth and rock in a blissful genjustu with the sword?
isn't itachi inside the susano'o? is he not affected by the laws of physic? even if chibaku tensei is just a "force field" like you claimed, why should he be able to resist it?
remember, gravity, magnetism are no attacks, it's physics...how do you defend against gravitiy or force fields?
i agree, that shinra tensei might me an attack of some sort, but i doubt that susano'o can break the effect of the chibaku tensei...that is all of it...until you proof me wrong by real evidence, that is my oppinion.

next pairing please, and perhaps one without "additional upgrades" and "supposed to have raiton armor" please, thanks

Konnaha_yellow_flash

[QUOTE=Nerox511;1778073]Lol, SO???

If the brink of death could use sasanoo then whats ur point? A healthy itachi would just be able to use it longer, thats all. Are u going to deny the fact that itachi healthy would be able to obviously sustain a jutsu that even him on the brink of death could even though its saps the users life itself.

iIts only oppisite lol. A nonsick itachi is the fight so dont get defensive since it would allow him to actually beat pain 1 on 1. And since itachi was handicaped in the first place by illness, its only necassary to pit him against a supirior doujutsu of a healthy user while in full health as he should be.

the yata mirrior would obviously repel CTs effects since kishi said the yata mirrior repels ALL ATTACKS.

devas powers arent the minipulation of the surrounding gravity, but by creating his own manetic forcefiled and standing at the center he can attract and repel things. So, no itachis not immune, but devas attack is still a ninjutsu attack which would be repeled just like what the Kyyubi did where deva STed him. The kyuubi anchored himself which caused the repeling force to bounce back, thus causing deva to be repeled instead. Its the same thing with basho tenin. Sasanoo would just counter the attack which would attract deva to sasanoo and not the other way around.

Electromagnitism could easily be a prduct of raiton+doton so dont say its nothing but physics because devas attack is still a ninjutsu.

ANd the mirrior is a supernatural weapon so like its name suggest, that shit is magic lol.

WHat do u mean real evidence? Kishi sand the yata mirrior can repel ALL ATTACKS and he created devas powers so those too because ALL means ALL.

Kishis own words from the DB are the best kind of evidence other then actions in the manga because his words arent any part of dialouge to add to the story. They are there for such situations as this and he says ALL ATTACKS so sasanoo will repel even devas attacks, no ifs, ands or buts.

Making itachi healthy isnt an upgrade its making itachi what he naturally should be. Kishi put itachi at a disadvantage for a reason because the guy was just too damn strong if he was healthy so to fight pain who is also healthy and has a supirior doujutsu its only fair to make itachi as he shouldve been. HEALTHY!!!

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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA