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Old 12-22-2009, 10:17 PM   #7531
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

From what I understand Suigetsu is like the T-1000 from T2. He can continueously reform himself. And its not like suigetsu would just let gaara constantly crush him until he figures out a strategy to seperate parts of suigetsu from himself.

SInce Gaara uses sand, suigetsu can soak in then reform once garra brings the sand back to his gourd and attack from behind.

Im not saying suigetsus going to beat Gaara, but I dont see gaara able to beat suigetsu either. I mean it took a point blank blast from the hachibi to actually KO suigetsu, but he was still unharmed physicly so gaara not going to have the power and attack necassary to actually KO or even harm suigetsu.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:03 AM   #7532
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Here is a simple solution.

Gaara absorbs Suigetsu. Send the wet sand to the the earth's million degrees burning inner core. He's toast.
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Cool battle.

Naruto at the last stage of the fight with Sasuke in part 1.

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Naruto Base in Shippuden after fight with Kakuzu.
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Cool battle.

Naruto at the last stage of the fight with Sasuke in part 1.

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Naruto Base in Shippuden after fight with Kakuzu.
If ur refering to KN1 from part 1 vs base naruto from part 2 after wind training, shippuden naruto would own KN1 naruto because KN1 wasnt able to be sustained for very long and naruto could just simply throw KBs at KN1 until he wears down so bad naruto can just hit him with a rasengan ending the fight. No need for the FRS preSM.

How about the long talked about SM naruto vs Kisame (obviously with samehada) Naruto can go up to KN2, but after that its all the Kyuubi. Fight takes place in konaha crater where naruto fought pain and naruto cant summon fukasaku or shima because he never actually has shown shown that he can. And since narutos summoning skils are crap compared to his other sills I doubt he could do it anyways when hes always had so much trouble summoning the frog he intends.
(Also, SM can be asorbed from naruto externally, as can elemental chakra since KBs onvious raiton chakra was absorbed).

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Sage chakra can be absorbed, but what im really curious is that samehada seems to be a living entity, therefore... what would happen if naruto feeds it natural energy?
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Sage chakra can be absorbed, but what im really curious is that samehada seems to be a living entity, therefore... what would happen if naruto feeds it natural energy?
Samehada isnt HG realm of pain. Samhada will absorb the external Sage chakra from narutos rasengan, FRS, gusts of wind chakra and Kyuubi chakra tails. Not take chakra from naruto internally which can be unbalanced and turn samehada into a frog statue while the user is unharmed since hes not getting any of the unbalanced sage chakra.


If naruto unbalances his chakra so much it would tunr samehada into a frog statue then barutos going to become one as well.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:19 PM   #7537
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Sage chakra can be absorbed, but what im really curious is that samehada seems to be a living entity, therefore... what would happen if naruto feeds it natural energy?
it would turn to stone, since you need proper training to handle it anyone who hasn't received it would be fucked..

samahada can't absorb it unless its visible the only thing it has been shown to absorb is pure raw chakra that's visible.. it cannot absorb ninjutsu at ALL nor can it absorb naruto's sage chakra unless naruto himself injects it with it...
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Ur a dunce Myth!!!

HG realm continuouslu absorbed sage chakra rasengans and FRS and didnt tunr into a frog statue. But only until HG took chakra from naruto internally was naruto able to give HG realm the unbalanced chakra which turned him into a frog.

SM naruto cant do that to samehada with rasengans, FRS, ect because he would tunr into a frog as well. And since samehada doesnt absorb chakra form internally naruto cant do to him what he did to HG realm SO YES SAMEHADA WILL ABSORB ALL THE BALANCED SAGE CHAKRA RASENGANS, FRS HE LIKE AND BE JUST FINE.

Lol, Myth is infering just because he loves the shit out of naruto that even though his rasengans, FRSs are pure chakra or pure chakra/nature chakra which samehada can absorb as well (WHich was proved when KB raiton natured chakra was absorbed right off his sword dont argue it, it freaking happened, its no different then any other raiton nature chakra).

Naruto going to have nothing but frog katas to fight kisame with in SM which wont really do anything at all because kisame is as strong as naruto and will only get stronger the more sage chakra/kyuubi chakra samehada absorbs.

Naruto vs base kisame 5/5 could go either way with use of multiple summons.

However, kisamehada 8-2 SM naruto because naruto will be trapped and drown in no time flat in giant ball of water which he cant escape using taiju KB jutsu because it will upset the balance of the NE gathering clones which would cause them to disperese hitting naruto with too much NE which would tun him into a frog.
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Sage chakra can be absorbed, but what im really curious is that samehada seems to be a living entity, therefore... what would happen if naruto feeds it natural energy?
also samahada is useless against ninjutsu as shown in the manga when jiraiya used toad stomach and samahada was actually being eaten up.. so yes against ninjutsu the sword is useless...
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Yes samehada is useless against summoning ninjutsu, but can absorb elemental ninjutsu was prven when KBs raiton (not pure chakra as some deluded noobs would love to believe) was absorbed right off his sword.

So, naruto cant use any rasengans or FRS because they would be absorbed making kisame stronger which leaves frog katas which is null since samehadas 5ft reach vs naruto NE 6inch reach with frog katas.

Naruto could maybe beat base kisame using the same attack he used on hell pain (creatin smoke, having a henedged bushin get throw to absorb, then when samehada trie to absorb the bushin unhendges and holds down samehada. Then the real FRS comes in and kisame narrowly misses it only to be hit by naruto from above like hell did.)

Wait!!!

Kisame could still have samehada walk over, fuse with kisame then heal all his wounds to become kisamehada so that wont work after thinking about. The attack will land, but a mere rasengan wouldnt kill kisame so samehada could heal kisame.
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Old 12-25-2009, 12:08 AM   #7541
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

lolwait, wasn't this discussed before?

at base kisame, smnaruto shitstomps.
at kisamehada, smnaruto will have difficult time because of the ocean summon, but kisame will still lose.

new fight:

Kakuzu + hidan vs Kisame + Samehada
battlefield: desert open area
restrictions: kakuzu will only do 2 things, spit out one chakra heart beast to give Hidan backup firepower ( you choose the element), & stitch Hidan once if needed. So basically it is Hidan vs Kisame, battle of the beheaded, with a little stipulation.
assumptions: Kisame can go all out. Kisame does not know anything about Hidan's jutsu. Hidan doesn't know that Kisame can fuse with Samehada.

ready? FIGHT!
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lolwait, wasn't this discussed before?

at base kisame, smnaruto shitstomps.
at kisamehada, smnaruto will have difficult time because of the ocean summon, but kisame will still lose.

new fight:

Kakuzu + hidan vs Kisame + Samehada
battlefield: desert open area
restrictions: kakuzu will only do 2 things, spit out one chakra heart beast to give Hidan backup firepower ( you choose the element), & stitch Hidan once if needed. So basically it is Hidan vs Kisame, battle of the beheaded, with a little stipulation.
assumptions: Kisame can go all out. Kisame does not know anything about Hidan's jutsu. Hidan doesn't know that Kisame can fuse with Samehada.

ready? FIGHT!
Maybe on some crazy fanfiction where samehada all of a sudden cant absorb chakra anymore, but in the reality of the manga abilites presented by kishi narutos pure chakra/wind natured chakra jutsu will be absorbed and make useless while making kisame stronger.

WHich unfortuanly leaves SM naruto with nothing but frog katas which only offers naruto a NE 6inch reach while samehada offers kisame a 5ft reach lol.

And seeing as how kisame can just create a giant body of water in base form and create multiple suiton bushins who can all become water prisons then narutos style of fighting with power is going to do sqwuat unless samehada turns on kisame again which wouldnt happen lol.


U cant say kisame+samehada lol. Thats like saying, KB+the hachibi vs team hawk.

And seeing hows kakuzu realies on powerful elemental chakra nature attacks, he would lose. And sinc samehada can instantly heal kisame even if hidan uses his ritual it wont work and kisame can use his ocean summoning to wash away the ritual blood seal and take hidan off of land which makes it Impossible to make any other ritual seals in water.

Kisame 7-3 against team Immoratls.
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lolwait, wasn't this discussed before?

at base kisame, smnaruto shitstomps.
at kisamehada, smnaruto will have difficult time because of the ocean summon, but kisame will still lose.

new fight:

Kakuzu + hidan vs Kisame + Samehada
battlefield: desert open area
restrictions: kakuzu will only do 2 things, spit out one chakra heart beast to give Hidan backup firepower ( you choose the element), & stitch Hidan once if needed. So basically it is Hidan vs Kisame, battle of the beheaded, with a little stipulation.
assumptions: Kisame can go all out. Kisame does not know anything about Hidan's jutsu. Hidan doesn't know that Kisame can fuse with Samehada.

ready? FIGHT!
yeah it was discussed before when the entire naruto section proved samahada is useless against ninjutsu, I just pointed some stuff out to thor..
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Ok.
Battle of the bitches.

Tsunade + Sakura + Shizune

Vs

Anko + Hinata + Ino + Tenten + Temari + Tayuya + Kurenai

Everything showed up until now.

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3 people vs. 7 people is kind of unfair. It leads to a lot of double teaming.

Tsunade is strong but Anko and kurenai(I assume you mean before she got knocked up) together should be enough to beat her.

Sakura has a lot of strength, but she's all close range. Tenten could soften her up with long range attacks, especially with her massive weapon summoning scrolls. Hinata can wait for an opening and hit her with her gentle fist style and close her chakra points in her hands. Sakura without her chakra enhanced punches is then useless.

Shizune hasn't had a lot of manga feats. All that is really known about her is that she's jounin level and about equal to kabuto or maybe a little weaker. Temari and Tayuya each could fight evenly with her. Them together could mop the floor with her.

As for Ino, well she wouldn't even have to fight for her team to win. Not like her fodder ass could do much anyway.

So IMHO it would be team tsunade 1-9 team anko.

PS: Not that team tsunade is weak or anything, their just outnumbered to much to have a chance. If they had 2 more decent members then it would be way different.
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