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Old 01-30-2010, 01:47 PM   #16
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People have twisted Nietzsche's writings to put forth their own agenda all throughout history. Quoting Nietzsche was pretty useless in that circumstance and only further leads people to think that he was all about anti-god. He was much more anti-certainty. It undermines the quote when you use it simply to express your anti-religion sentiments. On top of that you used a philosopher who's words have been used to commit atrocities
Uhhhh...what?


The original post in this thread was quoting what he said in another thread. In that thread, he didn't twist Nietzsche writings (It was a direct quote...), nor would it have further lead people to think Nietzsche was all about anti-god. And if it did, then it'd be those people's fault for being stupid and making stupid assumptions.

Like, it'd be stupid to assume someone was "all about" something based on one quote. It's also pretty stupid to get on some dude's case based on the assumption that people would make stupid assumptions about Nietzsche based on a single quote...

Also, in the original thread, he expressed no personal anti-religious sentiments. And in this thread, he didn't use the quote to do so either.

And what the philosopher's words have been used for in the past has no relevance what-so-ever. If anything, you should be bitching about Nietzsche's poor choice of wording. He should have just said exactly what he meant if he was trying to get across a particular philosophical point. Saying "God is dead" when you mean "recent developments in modern science and the increasing secularization of European society [during Nietzsche's time] had effectively 'killed' the Christian God, who had served as the basis for meaning and value in the West for more than a thousand years, lololololol" is pretty stupid and just asking for misinterpretations.


tl;dr= Quit being such a fag, old man.



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Old 01-30-2010, 02:10 PM   #17
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And what the philosopher's words have been used for in the past has no relevance what-so-ever. If anything, you should be bitching about Nietzsche's poor choice of wording. He should have just said exactly what he meant if he was trying to get across a particular philosophical point. Saying "God is dead" when you mean "recent developments in modern science and the increasing secularization of European society [during Nietzsche's time] had effectively 'killed' the Christian God, who had served as the basis for meaning and value in the West for more than a thousand years, lololololol" is pretty stupid and just asking for misinterpretations.
Hm, kinda true.

You can pull all kinds of assumptions when you read "God is dead".

For example, someone might take it literally, while others may look for a hidden meaning...and guess what, they will still come to a wrong conclusion. Let's say that I think that what he wanted to tell us is that even thought believers are all around him, they still do not obey his laws, and he (god) still does nothing. So he must be dead.

That's an example of how someone might take it. And who is to say who is right or wrong? Sure, 90% are total dumbshits with their interpretations, but who cares. It's not like there is a philosopher who is completely right or wrong. Just think of your own theory or the way you see it.

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Old 01-30-2010, 02:12 PM   #18
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Edit: Nerox isn't the smartest dude ever or anything, to put it nicely, though. So if you're going to rag on him for that then cool.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:25 PM   #19
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and an "i" and fuck off
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Hahaha, oh wow that was easy.

Fucking simpleton.
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shut your face, woodgnome

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I defy anyone to come up with a funnier insult than this =D
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^^^^ I rofl'd.
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Woodgnome also sounds like a playful euphemism for a cock-loving loli.
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And what the philosopher's words have been used for in the past has no relevance what-so-ever. If anything, you should be bitching about Nietzsche's poor choice of wording. He should have just said exactly what he meant if he was trying to get across a particular philosophical point. Saying "God is dead" when you mean "recent developments in modern science and the increasing secularization of European society [during Nietzsche's time] had effectively 'killed' the Christian God, who had served as the basis for meaning and value in the West for more than a thousand years, lololololol" is pretty stupid and just asking for misinterpretations.
People probably would not have cared about Nietzsche without his use of hyperbole. Don't ask me for the source because I am not sure, but I think it may be from a documentary called Human, All Too Human.
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Oh man, I lol'd.

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People probably would not have cared about Nietzsche without his use of hyperbole.
Doesn't say much about his philosophy if the only thing that makes it noticeable is how he worded it. ; )
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shut your face, woodgnome
i dont know exactly what kind of insult this is supposed to be...


but i love it.
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