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Old 03-18-2010, 08:38 PM   #31
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Myth, with all due respect, I don't need a response about how Aizen already prepared for this or how he is so powerful that it doesn't matter. That same response has been in effect for the past 50+ chapters and I am ready for a new one.
That might be the same response he gives, but it's the same one Kubo does as well.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:42 PM   #32
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Re: bleach 396

inserting that stone was a fuck up on aizen's part. urahara may pop up sooner or later with some kind of fail safe to the thing. it may not kill aizen but it will bring him back to the level of getting hurt by attacks, and like everyone says...ichigo will be beat down but at this point when urahara comes and fights a lil bit and gets his ass handed to him, but manages to deactivate the stone ichigo will rise up and find his resolve and walk the floor with aizen. don't flame me for saying it flame kubo because this is a constant in all of ichigo's fights. ichigo has been near death and has come back and he has also been dead and revived his damn self to come back and kick ass. lol fuck aizen...ichigo= god lmao
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:17 PM   #33
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he's talking about that new form that killed ulqiorra.
He didn't kill Ulqiorra. The plot turned him to dust before he could hurt Ichigo.

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What was the point of the Captains buying all this time to give an opening for Ichigo when in fact, Aizen can't be harmed physically?
They weren't aware Aizen became Sauron and learned the Fusion technique.

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Yea I don't think Ichigo has a chance to beat Aizen. Aizen already knows about his Resurrection
A resurrection is the released form of their sword. Ichigo's is in a permanent released state.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:51 PM   #34
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He didn't kill Ulqiorra. The plot turned him to dust before he could hurt Ichigo.
Uuuum, are u sure that point blank cero that destroyed half of Ulqs body couldnt of been what caused him to die, thus turn to dust?

Anyways, Im not sure how the Hokyoku is supposed to benifit Aizen other then by helping to regenerate. Well, maybe Aizen realised that Ichigos new power could very well destroy him so by fusing with the Hokyoku, hollow powers can no longer harm him or something. IDK?? It sounds like some other kind of plot armour Kubo awards the most fail Villan since naraku.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:00 PM   #35
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A resurrection is the released form of their sword. Ichigo's is in a permanent released state.
By a hollow or arrancar, if I'm correct. When Ichigo puts on his mask he becomes an arrancar (shinigami and hollow) thus the boost in power. That's the way I was looking at it plus I don't feel like typing "Ichigo's full hollow form" everytime
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Uuuum, are u sure that point blank cero that destroyed half of Ulqs body couldnt of been what caused him to die, thus turn to dust?

Anyways, Im not sure how the Hokyoku is supposed to benifit Aizen other then by helping to regenerate. Well, maybe Aizen realised that Ichigos new power could very well destroy him so by fusing with the Hokyoku, hollow powers can no longer harm him or something. IDK?? It sounds like some other kind of plot armour Kubo awards the most fail Villan since naraku.
He fused with the Hokyoku before ichigo's new form.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:14 PM   #37
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By a hollow or arrancar, if I'm correct. When Ichigo puts on his mask he becomes an arrancar (shinigami and hollow) thus the boost in power.
No, he's a natural Vizard.
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No, he's a natural Vizard.
No such thing as a natural Vizard. Vizards are the name of the group of shinigami that were created by Aizen. He's a natural arrancar. There are cases of that happening to both normal hollows and normal shinigami.
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No such thing as a natural Vizard. Vizards are the name of the group of shinigami that were created by Aizen. He's a natural arrancar. There are cases of that happening to both normal hollows and normal shinigami.
thats the part i didn't get. aizen made it look like he had something to do with ichigo going hollow, but from the beginning ichigo was one of the rare exceptions. he almost transformed into a hollow during his transformation into a full fledged death god. urahara had the perfect explanation for this occurance, but now aizen is like " made you and i can break you" lol but meh this is kubo's story...
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:41 PM   #40
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No such thing as a natural Vizard. Vizards are the name of the group of shinigami that were created by Aizen. He's a natural arrancar. There are cases of that happening to both normal hollows and normal shinigami.
Um, no.

A Vizard is a Shinigami that has gained Hollow powers. Aizen forced this upon several members of the Soul Society. However, Ichigo acquired it naturally in a forced method to become a Shinigami.

An Arrancar is a Hollow that removes it's mask to gain powers similiar to Shinigami.

The major difference is that Arrancar ALWAYS have their abilities activated, but a Vizard has to put on his mask and it can be shattered by his opponent to end the transformation.

Ichigo is a Vizard, not an Arrancar.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:44 AM   #41
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Um, no.

A Vizard is a Shinigami that has gained Hollow powers. Aizen forced this upon several members of the Soul Society. However, Ichigo acquired it naturally in a forced method to become a Shinigami.

An Arrancar is a Hollow that removes it's mask to gain powers similiar to Shinigami.

The major difference is that Arrancar ALWAYS have their abilities activated, but a Vizard has to put on his mask and it can be shattered by his opponent to end the transformation.

Ichigo is a Vizard, not an Arrancar.
Why are you arguing with me? You obviously don't read the manga or if you do your interpreting skills are lacking or you're just making ish up.

Tousen is a shinigami, right? He (and Aizen) never called himself a Vizard. He called them Arrancar wannabes. Proof:

http://www.bleachcentral.com/manga.p...each&c=376&p=5

Also since we are in agreement that Tousen is a shinigami. When he released, he called it a Resurrection. Proof:

http://www.bleachcentral.com/manga.p...ach&c=385&p=17
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:48 AM   #42
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Tousen is a shinigami, right? He (and Aizen) never called himself a Vizard. He called them Arrancar wannabes.
It was intended as an insult because they weren't the result he had in mind as they're weaker than Arrancar for the reason I stated.

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Also since we are in agreement that Tousen is a shinigami. When he released, he called it a Resurrection.
*Facepalms.

The Hogyoku says Hi. It can remove the boundaries between Hollow and Shinigami, making it possible for Aizen to transform Tousen into an Arrancar. When he turned the Shinigami into Vizards, it was just random, unexplained Aizen bullshit. Urahara merely used the Hogyoku to stablize them. Furthermore, Tousen's transformation happened off-panel. Therefore, the exact details are unknown.
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Re: bleach 396

Haha...Oh, wow.

So Aizen knows everything. Just because. He also had it all planned. How surprising. He fused with Hougyoku, that's one thing I did not expect.

Also, what's up with the other characters? lololol
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@ Emissary. Show me proof, because you're just spouting speculation. Who knows what happens off-panel. He could of used the same method as he used with the Vizards just improved or he could of used the Hogouyku. And obviously it was an insult, but it was an insult he said with a purpose. If you read the chapters after that he goes into further detail. Come on maaaaaaan
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Re: bleach 396

The first 4 pages didn't even mean anything, =_=

I wouldn't be suprised if Aizen revealed that he is Ichigo's OTHER father... meaning Ichigo's dad and Aizen were gay partners and Ichigo is actually their adopted son!! O_O OHWEMJEE!

Hey what if Aizen implanted the white hollow Ichigo inside Ichigo and he's gonna use him for something, like he's part of the big plan.

ALSO, is it just me or does anyone else find Ichigo's Hollow Mask somewhat more badass now that the eye holes are a little bigger and show more of his actual face? It seems a bit more human.
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