Just a Thought THREAD - Page 13

ask me anything · 03-22-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freedom07

kabuto was from konoha

Not really. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/66/05/

He was from a foreign nation. He was found as a child on the battlefield by a konoha medical ninja. They brought him back to konoha. The medical ninja adopted him. That's why kabuto was such a good medical ninja.

stubborn_d0nkey · 03-23-2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ask me anything

It's a cool theory, but the timeline doesn't work out. Naruto's mom (kushina?) was a survivor of the whirlpool village. When tsunade was talking to Jiriaya about her, she described her as a tomboy as a child. This indicates kushina came to the village as a child (5-10? maybe). Kabuto being only a few years older then naruto shouldn't even be born yet.

uncles can be younger than their nephews. it happens. so a few years older isn't really that big of a deal

ask me anything · 03-23-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

uncles can be younger than their nephews. it happens. so a few years older isn't really that big of a deal

you completely missed the point -__-

Kushina came to konoha as a child. Her village was already destroyed at that time. Kabuto wasn't born yet. He was found as a child in the remains of a battlefield between konoha and a unknown village. That battle happened years after kushina came to konoha.

Simple put, there's no way that unknown village kabuto came from was the whirlpool village, because it was long destroyed by then.

batonnoir · 03-23-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ask me anything

It's a cool theory, but the timeline doesn't work out. Naruto's mom (kushina?) was a survivor of the whirlpool village. When tsunade was talking to Jiriaya about her, she described her as a tomboy as a child. This indicates kushina came to the village as a child (5-10? maybe). Kabuto being only a few years older then naruto shouldn't even be born yet.

Oh well...so much for my track record

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 03-23-2010, 11:00 PM

Ive been thinking about this for a while now. It ties to my Madara/tobi=the juubi theory.

Lets say after madara awakened the EMS he went back and looked at the Rikudou tablet and it said soemthing shoking. It said "the Juubis power was passed on to the elder son and caused his lust for power. Realising this the younger son fought and defated the elder by placing a seal on the elders doujutsu which the juubis power found an outlet. By placing this seal on the RG the ripple disapeared and three tomoe appeared in theyre place".

Madara realising his SG/MS/EMS is just a sealed version of the RG which is why he was able to awaken more power as the seal of the MS was Broken, thus achieving an Eternal MS. Madara thought of fully breaking the seal.

Also, by realising the juubi (the complete ultimate bijuu) runs through his veins. He cut his hand and used the summoning jutsu and low and behold. He SUMMONED THE KYUUBI (this is how madara could summon the kyuubi then control him with tsukuyomi).

But as u know. Before madara could continue in his goal to unlock more about the SG/RG Origins. He lost to shodiame and once his chakra was too low to supress the pure juubi cursed chakra running through his veins, using his eyes as a medium. The juubi took over and has been mascarading as him, creating akatsuki all so his other halves can be reunited and he can become complete again.

I also would Imagine that once the juubi leaves madaras body, the orginal madara is still in there and will return and perhaps be able to tell what the juubis be up to since he took over in detail.

Ero-Sage · 03-23-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

Ive been thinking about this for a while now. It ties to my Madara/tobi=the juubi theory.

Lets say after madara awakened the EMS he went back and looked at the Rikudou tablet and it said soemthing shoking. It said "the Juubis power was passed on to the elder son and caused his lust for power. Realising this the younger son fought and defated the elder by placing a seal on the elders doujutsu which the juubis power found an outlet. By placing this seal on the RG the ripple disapeared and three tomoe appeared in theyre place".

Madara realising his SG/MS/EMS is just a sealed version of the RG which is why he was able to awaken more power as the seal of the MS was Broken, thus achieving an Eternal MS. Madara thought of fully breaking the seal.

Also, by realising the juubi (the complete ultimate bijuu) runs through his veins. He cut his hand and used the summoning jutsu and low and behold. He SUMMONED THE KYUUBI (this is how madara could summon the kyuubi then control him with tsukuyomi).

But as u know. Before madara could continue in his goal to unlock more about the SG/RG Origins. He lost to shodiame and once his chakra was too low to supress the pure juubi cursed chakra running through his veins, using his eyes as a medium. The juubi took over and has been mascarading as him, creating akatsuki all so his other halves can be reunited and he can become complete again.

I also would Imagine that once the juubi leaves madaras body, the orginal madara is still in there and will return and perhaps be able to tell what the juubis be up to since he took over in detail.

The only problem i have with this is the fact that Kyuubi says uchihas are more sinister than him. Both Rikoudo and Nagato sought peace and were not sinister at their core. So how did the sharingan become more sinister than RG after it was sealed. Logically it should become less sinister after sealing.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 03-23-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ero-Sage

The only problem i have with this is the fact that Kyuubi says uchihas are more sinister than him. Both Rikoudo and Nagato sought peace and were not sinister at their core. So how did the sharingan become more sinister than RG after it was sealed. Logically it should become less sinister after sealing.

The SG is more sinister because its the juubis power, not RS's. By the younger brother sealing away the elders power and thus the juubis that he had inhertied geneticly. The RG disapered and all that was left for him and his decendents was the tomoe of the Juubi. (Note: the RG is clearly RS's power while the tomoe in the Juubis eyes must be his because RS no nagato had no ripples and the Uchihas connection to the 9 bijuu through the SG makes it apparent even more IMO).

However, even now and then an Uchiha awakens more of the juubis power then other Uchiha which is why they become so powerful and as u know, Madara Uchiha was born with the largest chakra pool in the Uchiha ever. So what do u think that power was? It was the juubis pure (more sinister then even the kyuubis) cursed as they all say chakra.

Ero-Sage · 03-23-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

The SG is more sinister because its the juubis power, not RS's. By the younger brother sealing away the elders power and thus the juubis that he had inhertied geneticly. The RG disapered and all that was left for him and his decendents was the tomoe of the Juubi. (Note: the RG is clearly RS's power while the tomoe in the Juubis eyes must be his because RS no nagato had no ripples and the Uchihas connection to the 9 bijuu through the SG makes it apparent even more IMO).

However, even now and then an Uchiha awakens more of the juubis power then other Uchiha which is why they become so powerful and as u know, Madara Uchiha was born with the largest chakra pool in the Uchiha ever. So what do u think that power was? It was the juubis pure (more sinister then even the kyuubis) cursed as they all say chakra.

I can see that. The Juubi being passed down to the elder son might be a stretch though. RS sealed juubi into himself to imprison it. Then he divided its chakra and sealed its body in the moon. How could juubi's power then be gifted to elder son after all this?

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 03-23-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ero-Sage

I can see that. The Juubi being passed down to the elder son might be a stretch though. RS sealed juubi into himself to imprison it. Then he divided its chakra and sealed its body in the moon. How could juubi's power then be gifted to elder son after all this?

Well since the juubi lived inside of RS its possible that the juubi caught wind of RS's plot to split him then Imprison his body for all time. Or, just incase RS's would try to kill the juubi. The juubi waited fro RS to mate and when he did, the juubi snuck some of his power into the process which would allow the child to be born with it so the juubi could live on and one day become strong enough to regain awareness and revive himself COMPLETLY as madara said.

Lets compare evidenc for Uchiha=juubis power.

1. The juubi had tomoes that were specificly his, not RS's. yet, the Uchiha didnt get ripple of a RG. They Got Tomoe of the Juubis inctead.

2. Even the kyuubi recognized that sasukes just like madaras chakra was even more sinister then his. And by simple elimination, there can be only one other chakra like that. The JUUBIS!!!!

3. The Uchihas have be called cursed since the beggining, but why? Its because htey are the vessles for the juubis tainted, power lusting power. So as long as they exsit they will try to attain more and more power. Even by going so far as to kill theyre best friends for the MS. Then by killing theyre siblings for the EMS.

4. Last but not least. The Uchihas power of the SG is able to supress the bijuu themselves. But how?? Only by the SGs power being tied to the bijuu could such a thing be possible IMO. Only because the SGs power is that of the original bijuu (the juubi) is it capable of subdueing bijuu at its weakest level of basic SG.

Ero-Sage · 03-23-2010, 11:48 PM

I'm liking your idea as a whole but the process of how elder son got juubi power is more than laughable.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 03-23-2010, 11:56 PM

I think the juubi passing on some of its power to the elder son genticly so it has a chance to be reborn again one day. Basicly its trying to live on and thus using RS's son and his childrens, childrens, childrens and so on as a medium to awaken more and more until it becomes elf aware and is able to take over its Uchiha host (madara).

Ero-Sage · 03-24-2010, 12:05 AM

Ya i get it but juubi sneaking out through RS penis just seems like a stretch...not saying it couldnt happen(insert kishi's weird plot twists) but to me its a HUGE stretch.

Anyway nice chatting bro I gotta take a "Lost" break...peace

stubborn_d0nkey · 03-28-2010, 06:43 AM

Just a thought:
Why hasn't this been stickied yet?

god111 · 03-28-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

Well since the juubi lived inside of RS its possible that the juubi caught wind of RS's plot to split him then Imprison his body for all time. Or, just incase RS's would try to kill the juubi. The juubi waited fro RS to mate and when he did, the juubi snuck some of his power into the process which would allow the child to be born with it so the juubi could live on and one day become strong enough to regain awareness and revive himself COMPLETLY as madara said.

Lets compare evidenc for Uchiha=juubis power.

1. The juubi had tomoes that were specificly his, not RS's. yet, the Uchiha didnt get ripple of a RG. They Got Tomoe of the Juubis inctead.

2. Even the kyuubi recognized that sasukes just like madaras chakra was even more sinister then his. And by simple elimination, there can be only one other chakra like that. The JUUBIS!!!!

3. The Uchihas have be called cursed since the beggining, but why? Its because htey are the vessles for the juubis tainted, power lusting power. So as long as they exsit they will try to attain more and more power. Even by going so far as to kill theyre best friends for the MS. Then by killing theyre siblings for the EMS.

4. Last but not least. The Uchihas power of the SG is able to supress the bijuu themselves. But how?? Only by the SGs power being tied to the bijuu could such a thing be possible IMO. Only because the SGs power is that of the original bijuu (the juubi) is it capable of subdueing bijuu at its weakest level of basic SG.

these r actually some nice proofs....i mean these actually make it look possible....nyc theory

stubborn_d0nkey · 04-06-2010, 01:20 PM

This isn't directly about the manga but more of a suggestion to those who post here:

Don't link to mangastream if the same chapter of Naruto is out somewhere else.

Mangastream has a policy because of which they delete the chapters after time (I think when they the volume with the chapter comes out). If somebody visits the thread after a while any link to mangastream will be broken and page will not be viewable. Of course they could figure out the chapter and the page from the link, but if you are already looking for proof why not just look at onemanga or some other site.

Of course if the translation suits you better you will definitely link to mangastream, but aside for this, and some other exceptions, I think it would be better to refrain from linking to mangastream.

It, actually, wouldn't bother me that much if I had to go to a different site. It wouldn't be the first time. However I do think it would help to increase some type of "order" in the manga section.

P.S. This was the best thread I could think of to post this in

03-23-2010, 11:48 PM	#190
Ero-Sage Perverted Hermit Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In a van down by the river. Posts: 884 Thanks: 1,242 Thanked 379 Times in 215 Posts	Re: Just a Thought THREAD I'm liking your idea as a whole but the process of how elder son got juubi power is more than laughable.

03-24-2010, 12:05 AM	#192
Ero-Sage Perverted Hermit Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In a van down by the river. Posts: 884 Thanks: 1,242 Thanked 379 Times in 215 Posts	Re: Just a Thought THREAD Ya i get it but juubi sneaking out through RS penis just seems like a stretch...not saying it couldnt happen(insert kishi's weird plot twists) but to me its a HUGE stretch. Anyway nice chatting bro I gotta take a "Lost" break...peace

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