Mal

I am reiterating my request for actual evidence.

ACt

Or, because it is a conspiracy thread, at least some hypothesis that has some loose evidence that tries to prove your point. Just saying the whole world and governments are controlled by a few and it is all rigged is an empty statement. You could at the very least begin with "The Carlyle Group" and build from there.

AniMeFaN

they chose the canididate, they finance the campaigns which are extremely expensive and cant be won without money, they own the media companies, have the papers and news stations not cover certain candidates as much giving them less exposure while having their candidate frontline. they have their canditates portrayed in a great way while making others look bad. this is how manipulation works, you get someone to think they are doing what they want when it is actually what you want.

Mal

Holy FUCK would you stop ignoring the people you know could kick your ass in debate?

AniMeFaN

i am supplying the conspiracy theory and asking what people think of it, mal if im not mistaken was talking to ask me anything in the context of him saying this shouldnt be in the conspiracy theory section.

AniMeFaN

are talking to me??, you quoted someone else, i was under the impression you were talking to him.
dont really understand what your pissed about, this isnt the debate forum, this is the conspiracy theory forum, there was a conspiracy theory provided, the thread has been open less than a day. and your either talking to me or ask me anything and saying what? you would kick my ass in a debate, good for you, i havent seen you post more than a sentence ever, and its usually a negative comment, why dont you actually contribute something or dont bother posting

mewmew

can you site some examples that would back up the conspiracy already? like who are the people behind it? examples of apparent media manipulation?

don't you think it would be mighty stupid to just pull out troops from iraq immediately after the bush administration ended?

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kluang

If one of those "people" is a James Bond fan goes by the name Zero then I believe you.

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Mal

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Originally Posted by AniMeFaN are talking to me??, you quoted someone else, i was under the impression you were talking to him. dont really understand what your pissed about, this isnt the debate forum, this is the conspiracy theory forum, there was a conspiracy theory provided, the thread has been open less than a day. and your either talking to me or ask me anything and saying what? you would kick my ass in a debate, good for you, i havent seen you post more than a sentence ever, and its usually a negative comment, why dont you actually contribute something or dont bother posting

It doesn't matter who I quoted, you're both making similar blind claims with no evidence so I'm talking to both of you.

Debates aren't forbidden outside the debate section. A conspiracy has been posted which many people are going to disagree with, so there is undoubtedly going to be debate. Or not; as there will be nothing to debate if no evidence is provided.

I have contributed as much meaningful material to this thread as you have. If you're not going to seriously present a case, then simply tell us that there is no place to logical discussion in this thread which is for people to discuss how the New World Order is screwing them over.

AniMeFaN

^ how can you say you have contributed as much as i have, i created the thread, chose the conspiracy theory, tried to get peoples thoughts, and all you have done is demand evidence be provided

thats what he said he would do, immiediately bring home the troops, instead he sent more. yes i would bring them home, only more problems with our national security will arrise by staying in the middle east, our meddling in the middle east is what started the whole problem to begin with.

is it possible to embed a video here?? im not to familiar with it, i think a video would due the conspiracy theory more justice then i would. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E

Miburo

Actually, this is part of the debate section of the forum. It's a sub-section of the debate forum. You are still expected to support your claim of any conspiracy with some sort of argument here. Posting a "Oh hai guiz, dis is my opinion. not going to justify it. kthaxbai" thing still doesn't cut it here. Or anywhere else, for that matter, unless you like portraying yourself as a dunce.

And why don't you actually support the claim of such a conspiracy? Mal doesn't have any burden of proof, you do. Since you're the one who posted the conspiracy, not him. He's perfectly in the right to ask for evidence. If you don't have anything to support your stance, then it's YOU who shouldn't have bothered posting.

AniMeFaN

^you guys are at each others beckon call, thank every post one of you makes, back up the other one with a post. well this is the sub section of the debate forum called conspiracy theories, its not ts job to provide an arguement for or against the conspiracy. i provided the topic which is the conspiracy theory and now people may discuss their thoughts on the matter. also i linked a video in my previous post which could help someone to understand the topic better as well as explained briefly what the conspiracy theory is. maybe a topic of do you think there are aliens as ts post would be more suitable for these forums.

Miburo

The fact that we're both not stupid and post on the same forum is just coincidence. It's not like anyone calls for backup or anything. Don't be gay.

Yes it is. That's actually exactly what you're suppose to do here. If you're not going to do that, then don't post in the smart people sections of the forum.

AniMeFaN

^where are all these smart guys you speak of, i rarely see a thread started, rarely see a post, so where are they because they certainly are not posting in these forums, all i see are guys saying they are smart coming down on the people who actually start threads and discussions. also you can tell me what im "suppose to do" but you are mistaken, a person who creates a topic for discussion is not obligated to pick a side and show proof. i created a topic for discussion in the conspiracy thread section by providing a conspiracy.

Mal

All the smart guys are in
GLORIOUS OUTER HEAVEN.

I will be watching the video you posted shortly. Also, a thread creator, as you said, does not have to take a side; however, you did.