Naruto and "Granny" Tsunade - Page 2

AOTKorby · 05-06-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

So we are just guessing

Because educated guesses based on logic and limited evidence are clearly worth no more than whatever BS non-logic it takes to try to justify the opposing theory.

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NamikazeNaruto

If Jiraiya was Tsunade's cousin, I doubt he would go after her tits like he did. They would probably know each other.

Most predictions have some pretty decent facts but these are flat out assumptions.I'm not saying your opinion is stupid, I simply disagree.

SK:Your probably right about the Will Of Fire thing, I never really studied it.
And what does OP mean?

And once agin you're going by our standards.. cousins married in royalty all the tiem.. heck even a few bros and sisters.. read history much

liondemon · 05-06-2010, 10:22 PM

I was only wondering if people knew actual ages and time lines or just guessing. Your educated guess is still a guess. I already said i could see Minato being her son or brother. We still dont even know how old Tsunade was when Dan died, so still an educated guess cannot prove that Tsunade is his mom or not. If Itachi had a lover at age? cant remember, and Tsunade was in love with Dan, who knows how old she could have been if and when he may or may not have knocked her up. Dan didnt seem like the type to use condoms to me and Tsunade doesnt seem like the type to remember to take her birth control on time everyday. Even your educated guess can still be soooo wrong, or right. Only Kishi knows for sure

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

Do we even know when Minato was born and how old Tsunade was or is everyone just guessing? I think Minato could be her son or brother. Who knows? Minato could also be related to the 2nd Hokage. Maybe his grandson.

Exactly the point I'm trying to make.. reguardless the Manga just told us that the Jinchuriki are chosen from the Familly of the Kage.. which mean all the Kage of any given village are related to each other by blood or marriage and thus are still familly which means that Naruto Tsunade and alll the inhabitants of Konaha are related.. in much the same way you have many members of your familly with different last names(clans) in your city but you are still related.. cousins aunts uncles grandparents great grandparents and so forth

AOTKorby · 05-06-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

And once agin you're going by our standards.. cousins married in royalty all the tiem.. heck even a few bros and sisters.. read history much

I'm sorry, let me point out why your points are complete garbage.

1. Dude, it's not Feudal Japan/Medieval Europe. It's a modern society.

2. You are practically drawing scribbles trying to connect irrelevant points to make your original argument coherent when all logic goes against it.

liondemon · 05-06-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

Exactly the point I'm trying to make.. reguardless the Manga just told us that the Jinchuriki are chosen from the Familly of the Kage.. which mean all the Kage of any given village are related to each other by blood or marriage and thus are still familly which means that Naruto Tsunade and alll the inhabitants of Konaha are related.. in much the same way you have many members of your familly with different last names(clans) in your city but you are still related.. cousins aunts uncles grandparents great grandparents and so forth

It's common for the jinjuriki to be chosen from Kages, and that in no way connects all the Kages in 1 village to a jinjuriki. If anything, The jinjuriki chosen would only have relation to the Kage at the time. Once that jinjuriki grows up, even if his relative Kage is killed, by then u would expect him to cherish his village like any other ninja. I dont think that the village would just choose the next strongest ninja to be Kage that is related to the jinjuriki. Gaara was chosen to be a jinjuriki because his father was Kage at the time. That doesnt necessarily mean that Gaara and his father, and all other Kages are related, same with Naruto and any other village of jinjuriki and Kages

KillerNN · 05-06-2010, 10:33 PM

@HR, No shit in history cousins got married. I don't know what the fuck your talking about telling ME to read.
It said Jinchuriki are related to Kages, Minato was 4th Hokage. Naruto is his son. Minato placed Kyuubi in Naruto. Naruto is a jinchuriki. Understand? It didn't say that kages had to be related, just the jinchurikis of the village were generally related to the kage. YOU need to read.SK has an educated guess not just a stupidass theory that has almost no evidence and seems to contradict itself. SmFh.

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

I was only wondering if people knew actual ages and time lines or just guessing. Your educated guess is still a guess. I already said i could see Minato being her son or brother. We still dont even know how old Tsunade was when Dan died, so still an educated guess cannot prove that Tsunade is his mom or not. If Itachi had a lover at age? cant remember, and Tsunade was in love with Dan, who knows how old she could have been if and when he may or may not have knocked her up. Dan didnt seem like the type to use condoms to me and Tsunade doesnt seem like the type to remember to take her birth control on time everyday. Even your educated guess can still be soooo wrong, or right. Only Kishi knows for sure

If they have any indication it's the information given in the databooks which places her at around 54 now but people need to realize this is feudal system and people don't wait till their in their 20's to start a family, just as in mideval times you were an adult at age 10- 12 .. that's why they are considered ninja and can be sent into war..

The Special One · 05-06-2010, 10:43 PM

At this point, I don't think Senju blood has a lot to do with anything anymore. The Senju assimilated into the surrounding clans and villagers, they had to of because there was no indication that they were killed off. So basically, the amount of Senju blood running through Naruto's body can't be anymore than what an average citizen, or clan member (Nara and Sarutobi for examples) would have (with the exception of the Hyuuga and Uchiha, because they isolate themselves and inbreed, so they'll probably have no Senju in them).

This is no way indicates that Tsunade and Naruto are even cousins, or what not. I mean it can be speculated, but we don't have any concrete proof.

liondemon · 05-06-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

If they have any indication it's the information given in the databooks which places her at around 54 now but people need to realize this is feudal system and people don't wait till their in their 20's to start a family, just as in mideval times you were an adult at age 10- 12 .. that's why they are considered ninja and can be sent into war..

That's what i was wondering if people were basing this on databook given ages and timelines. We still dont know how old Minato was do we? All we can do is guess, which may be right or wrong. Minato was likely 20 or close to it when he had Naruto, but Itachi was said to have a lover and he was still young when he left Konoha, and I agree that most people in this type of world and life and death duty would reproduce fairly young, but Sarutobi seemed to be waaaay older than Asuma, and Itachi's day seemed fairly older than Sasuke and Itachi. To each his own really, and I guess what is going on in the world, war, peace, would play a big role in when people decide to reproduce as well.

TSO- Senju blood/dna is what made Senju the only match for Uchiha. I seriously doubt if Naruto's level of Senju dna can be compared to just anybody in Konoha. Clearly he comes from a better stock of Senju like the 1st or the 2nd, who seemed to be greater than the rest like Madara and his brother were greater than the rest of the Uchiha.

Ero-Sage · 05-06-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

Dan didnt seem like the type to use condoms to me

LMAO!!!!!!

To everyone else...Motoi was just explaining how they chose the jinkiruki in the cloud village. That in no way means every village did it that way.

Also, don't forget that gaara's father, the kazekage, tried to have gaara, his son, killed on more than one occasion as well. So you cant tie every village in with the policies of the cloud.

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NamikazeNaruto

@HR, No shit in history cousins got married. I don't know what the fuck your talking about telling ME to read.
It said Jinchuriki are related to Kages, Minato was 4th Hokage. Naruto is his son. Minato placed Kyuubi in Naruto. Naruto is a jinchuriki. Understand? It didn't say that kages had to be related, just the jinchurikis of the village were generally related to the kage. YOU need to read.SK has an educated guess not just a stupidass theory that has almost no evidence and seems to contradict itself. SmFh.

well SYFH all you want til it hits the floor where are you getting that this is a MODERN society from.. they don't use the internet or fly in airplans these people hop through trees and use communication through giant freakin batteries. The Kage systym is based on a dynasty and of course it is a feudal system why else would they have a Feudal Lord ???

KillerNN · 05-06-2010, 10:47 PM

TSO I agree that some citizens have to have Senju blood in them, [non-pure] but the Leaf Village was built on more than Senju. Many other clans joined and that's what made it a village. So many clans probably kept to themselves.

@HR where in my post did I say this is modern society? Where did I say it wasn't a feudal system? Wasn't my post, so if your going to quote my post then respond to MY post.
@Ero Motoi said the 5 Kages bro, so it applies to more than cloud. I thought the same thing until I re-read it.

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

That's what i was wondering if people were basing this on databook given ages and timelines. We still dont know how old Minato was do we? All we can do is guess, which may be right or wrong. Minato was likely 20 or close to it when he had Naruto, but Itachi was said to have a lover and he was still young when he left Konoha, and I agree that most people in this type of world and life and death duty would reproduce fairly young, but Sarutobi seemed to be waaaay older than Asuma, and Itachi's day seemed fairly older than Sasuke and Itachi. To each his own really, and I guess what is going on in the world, war, peace, would play a big role in when people decide to reproduce as well.

TSO- Senju blood/dna is what made Senju the only match for Uchiha. I seriously doubt if Naruto's level of Senju dna can be compared to just anybody in Konoha. Clearly he comes from a better stock of Senju like the 1st or the 2nd, who seemed to be greater than the rest like Madara and his brother were greater than the rest of the Uchiha.

If kakashi is in his mid 20's and minato was chosen as hokage at a much younger age then yea he would have had to have had Naruto in his teens .. at around 15 or 16 .. and if he can have a kid in his teens why not Tsunade

Human Rasengan · 05-06-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SenninKorby

I'm sorry, let me point out why your points are complete garbage.

1. Dude, it's not Feudal Japan/Medieval Europe. It's a modern society.

2. You are practically drawing scribbles trying to connect irrelevant points to make your original argument coherent when all logic goes against it.

where are you getting that this is a MODERN society from.. they don't use the internet or fly in airplans these people hop through trees and use communication through giant freakin batteries. The Kage systym is based on a dynasty and of course it is a feudal system why else would they have a Feudal Lord ???

05-06-2010, 10:33 PM	#22
KillerNN Λυρικής Σκέψεις Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 2,097 Thanks: 3,614 Thanked 4,322 Times in 1,976 Posts	Re: Naruto and "Granny" Tsunade @HR, No shit in history cousins got married. I don't know what the fuck your talking about telling ME to read. It said Jinchuriki are related to Kages, Minato was 4th Hokage. Naruto is his son. Minato placed Kyuubi in Naruto. Naruto is a jinchuriki. Understand? It didn't say that kages had to be related, just the jinchurikis of the village were generally related to the kage. YOU need to read.SK has an educated guess not just a stupidass theory that has almost no evidence and seems to contradict itself. SmFh. __________________ The Cap'n

05-06-2010, 10:43 PM	#24
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,054 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,449 Times in 1,550 Posts	Re: Naruto and "Granny" Tsunade At this point, I don't think Senju blood has a lot to do with anything anymore. The Senju assimilated into the surrounding clans and villagers, they had to of because there was no indication that they were killed off. So basically, the amount of Senju blood running through Naruto's body can't be anymore than what an average citizen, or clan member (Nara and Sarutobi for examples) would have (with the exception of the Hyuuga and Uchiha, because they isolate themselves and inbreed, so they'll probably have no Senju in them). This is no way indicates that Tsunade and Naruto are even cousins, or what not. I mean it can be speculated, but we don't have any concrete proof. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

05-06-2010, 10:47 PM	#28
KillerNN Λυρικής Σκέψεις Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 2,097 Thanks: 3,614 Thanked 4,322 Times in 1,976 Posts	Re: Naruto and "Granny" Tsunade TSO I agree that some citizens have to have Senju blood in them, [non-pure] but the Leaf Village was built on more than Senju. Many other clans joined and that's what made it a village. So many clans probably kept to themselves. @HR where in my post did I say this is modern society? Where did I say it wasn't a feudal system? Wasn't my post, so if your going to quote my post then respond to MY post. @Ero Motoi said the 5 Kages bro, so it applies to more than cloud. I thought the same thing until I re-read it. __________________ The Cap'n Last edited by KillerNN; 05-06-2010 at 10:54 PM.

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