Nerox

okay, so i guess you'll survive france...

zer0systm

yeah I leave this shit hole tomorrow, clearly had enough of it. I was over it the second i stepped off the train to be honest....

anyways, I'm going to bed, Later mate.

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Nerox

ah well lucky you. hm, should go to sleep too, rugby tournament tomorrow, later dude.

Scientia

That's the one part of you that isn't generally rational, then. I mean, there's a ton of factors to take in, as well, too. I'm not saying you're completely wrong or anything.

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Miburo

ELABORATE


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Scientia

I'm simply saying that rationality has a lot to do with how we decide to treat people. Being nice to someone can be, in most cases, considered reasonable. Being reasonable and understanding of one's feelings can be considered rational. And taking those feelings into account when the situation calls for it will most likely compel you to not hurt someone's feelings. This is why most people consider it wrong.

Now, as for you not being rational by not caring about other's feelings, well there's a lot of things to consider. Like are you just being mean to someone for no reasonable reason at all? That's not really reasonable, and not really rational. This is, I guess, the basis for why being mean is wrong to most people. At least, that is, if we're using the same definition of rationality here. lol

I will admit, I was massively generalizing when I said that's the one part of you that isn't rational, though.

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OG

boxxy "love" is overrated.

explain.

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Miburo

UH YOUR PRETTY MUCH SAYING THAT
CARING ABOUT PEOPLES FEELINGS =
REASONABLE = RATIONAL

THAT ISNT A LOGICAL ARGUMENT
YOUR JUST RESTATING YOUR CONCLUSION
HOW IS IT RATIONAL (LOGICAL) TO GIVE A SHIT
ABOUT PEOPLES FEELINGS
AND IRRATIONAL (ILLOGICAL) TO NOT

BECAUSE I FAIL TO SEE
HOW ME NOT CARING ABOUT
RANDOM STRANGERS
OR SIMPLE ACQUAINTANCES FEELINGS
AS I GO ABOUT DOING MY THING
MAKES ME IRRATIONAL

AND STRANGERS
AND ACQUAINTANCES
ARE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE
POPULATION CONSISTS OF IN RELATION TO ME
SO
GENERALLY I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT
PEOPLES FEELINGS

NO REASON FOR ME TO
MAKE SURE I DONT
HURT SOMEONES FRAGILE FEELINGS
UNLESS I HAVE SOME SORT OF REASON
WHY I SHOULD CARE
LIKE IF THEYRE MY DEAR COMRADES
OR FAMILY OR SOME SHIT
RIGHT


RIGHT


cpas

Scientia

She's beautiful? My 'love' for Boxxy is a somewhat shallow one; it's only because of her beauty. But she's definitely the most beautiful I've ever seen. Thanks for bringing her up, though.

Rationality doesn't automatically equal logicality. It can also equal reasonability: And fairness. Logicality really doesn't have anything to do with emotions at all, so it has no place in this argument. lol. Don't tell me we're just going to go to fucking semantics again.

Because it isn't reasonable for you to be mean to someone? Unless you have a reasonable reason, of course. "You don't know them" isn't a reasonable reason, considering that they did nothing to deserve that, it wouldn't be a rational thing for you to do. Of course, for this argument to hold, I would have to assume that not caring about someone's feelings = being mean to them. Which is where part of the massive generalization comes from. The other part of the generalization assumes that they did nothing to deserve it.
Yeah, I understand what you mean. But, for a truly rational person, it's more like "I don't care as much for strangers' feelings than I do for my own comrades. I 'explained' that if you're reasonable you aren't going to want to be mean for no reason, because that's just how reasonable people are; whatever they're motive (unless the motive is truly devious or some shit). It's only fair.

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REASONABLE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING AS LOGICAL
THEYRE SYNONYMS
THE EASIEST WAY TO BE FAIR IS TO SIMPLY BE LOGICAL
SINCE LOGIC IS IMPARTIAL
I CANT THINK OF A WAY TO BE ILLOGICAL AND FAIR
TO BE HONEST
NOT THAT IT MATTERS

AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT FEELINGS THEMSELVES
THIS DISCUSSION ISNT ABOUT FEELINGS
ITS ABOUT HOW YOU CLAIMED THAT IT WAS IRRATIONAL
TO NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLES FEELINGS
LOGIC MOST CERTAINLY HAS A PLACE IN THIS
ARGUMENT
UNLESS YOURE SAYING THAT YOUR STANCE
IS ILLOGICAL

WHICH I WOULDNT DISAGREE WITH
IF THAT WERE THE CASE
I DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS
AND HAVE NO REASON TO CARE ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS
IS A REASONABLE REASON

I DONT CARE IF I STEP ON AN ANT WHILE WALKING
SOMEWHERE
SO THAT IS A REASONABLE REASON
TO NOT MAKE SURE I DONT STEP DOWN
ON AN ANT AS IM WALKING

YOURE ASSUMING ME NOT CARING
=ACTIVELY GOING OUT TO CRUSH ANTS
WHEN IN REALITY
IM JUST GOING ABOUT BY BUSINESS
AND IF AN ANT HAPPENS TO BE IN MY WAY
I STEP ON IT

LIKE
IF I SEE SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING STUPID
ILL SAY THAT IS SOME STUPID SHIT
OR SOMETHING
AND IF THAT PERSONS FEELINGS GET HURT
THEN OH WELL

I DONT ACTIVELY WALK AROUND
LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE FUN
OF THOUGH
SINCE YEAH
I HAVE NO REASON TO DO SOMETHING
LIKE THAT

IM STILL NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT PEOPLES FEELINGS
AND YOU STILL SAID THAT IM IRRATIONAL FOR THAT
REASON
YOU ARE WRONG



YOUVE PRESENTED NO ARGUMENT
SHOWING THAT TRULY REASONABLE PEOPLE
CARE ABOUT STRANGERS FEELINGS
AND THAT A PERSON WHO DOESNT CARE ABOUT
THOSE PEOPLES FEELINGS
IS UNREASONABLE

AGAIN
JUST SAYING THATS HOW REASONABLE PEOPLE ARE
ISNT A GOOD ARGUMENT
WHEN YOURE SUPPOSE TO BE
SHOWING WHY
ITS REASONABLE TO DO THAT
AND UNREASONABLE NOT TO

GIVE ME A REASON WHY I SHOULD
GIVE A FUCK ABOUT STRANGERS FEELINGS


PRETTY MUCH JUST CALLED YOU ON
THIS SHIT BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SOME
MASSIVE AS FUCK POSTS
IN LITTLE SPOON
POETIC ALL CAPS


cpas

OG

beautiful? not only that but the MOST beautiful? srly?

u need to go out moar. <.<

//immoarbeautifulthanthatthing.andthatssay inalot.//narckindalol

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Nerox

pics to confirm for everyone.

OG

the ones worthy enough have seen =P

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Nerox

damn...well, you can always PN them.

Miburo

I CAN VOUCH FOR OGS HAWTNESS

cpas