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Old 12-09-2010, 02:24 PM   #9016
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Bee would still win because the Hachibi is vastly more powerful than the Ichibi. Even if Gaara went full 1 tailed form and knocked himself out so Shukaku could take over, Bee and the Hachibi would decimate him. The power difference between 1 and 8 tails is too great for Gaara to overcome, even if he were in a desert.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:56 PM   #9017
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Gaara doesn't have Shikaku, i think that is what they are saying.

well the thing is IF bee can get close then Bee will win, Gaara seems to suck at hand to hand. so his Sand shield and armor won't help against lightning blades or Samehada.

A long range fight may save Gaara for a while but once he goes 8 tails it's a wrap.

Even IF he did have the 1 tail the menacing ball would trump his dirt bomb. But i really don't think BEE would have to go 8 tails to beat the 1 tails. if he stayed small and got in close he would do what Naruto did hand wake Gaara up.

really it ii as it should bee the only tailed beast that i see going toe to toe full on would be 8 vs. 9 but the 9 tails would be going full on cause he doesn't care, * tails would be going full on just to survive.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:58 PM   #9018
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Killerbee's Lightning affinity trumps Gaara's sand. And Bee's Menacing Ball would destroy Gaara's sand shield even if he did have Shukaku. There's a huge power difference between 1 tail and 8 tails. Hell, there's a massive power difference between 8 and 9 tails.
THIS, so damn much.

People over hype Gaara. Rock lee was able to punch through his sand defenses. Bee's Menacing Ball would annihilate his puny sand.



*crosses finger* Please somebody try to say Rock Lee's punch>>>Menacing Ball. I want someone to make that argument.
























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THIS, so damn much.

People over hype Gaara. Rock lee was able to punch through his sand defenses. Bee's Menacing Ball would annihilate his puny sand.



*crosses finger* Please somebody try to say Rock Lee's punch>>>Menacing Ball. I want someone to make that argument
Chill out dude, didn't you read Gara vs Deidara fight? Gara blocked all his explosions including the one that would have destroyed the sand village. vs Rock Lee Gara was not yet at the kage lvl and he only used the sand from his gourd. Now Gara can use the sand from his surroundings.
And he can fly, meaning he is out of Killerbee's reach if he wants to be. Ofc Killerbee would win if he goes as close to Gara as Rock Lee did, the lightning blades can cut through his ultimate sand defense, but I am arguing that Gara would keep his distance, in short it is a case of range vs melee. And I prefer range.
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Gaaras only way to win is too bury KB in full hachibi mode as deep as possible with a new more power sand tsunami and they will both sufficate and be crushed.

And is KBs dumb enough to try a beast blast from down there he will kill himself...

Other then that gaara is just over powered, but being a strategist Im sure he can figure out how to use any terrain to entomb KB..
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

I don't think Killer Bee's that stupid. He hasn't displayed such ignorance in either of his fights. Also, it's not even hinted that Gaara's sand could withstand the Bijuu bomb regardless of how strongly he reinforces it with the natural surroundings (mashing stone and soil to create more sand). It might just blow the roof open (if Hachibi's form is somehow submerged). Then again, you'd have to factor in how much chakra it would take to keep something like the Hachibi submerged or even at bay. Gaara couldn't even keep Kimmimaro down when it was all said and done. Of course Gaara has refined his chakra manipulation over the time-skip, however, the Hachibi's scale is unprecedented and its raw power in comparison to Kimmimaro's is like comparing a flea bite to a shot-gun blast.
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

if its a simple battle with out hachibi gaara would when cause of his defense, killer bee would have to stay safe distance and use lighting pencil to atk gaara.

i agree with most ppl if its a biju battle hachibi will beat te shukaku cause its eight against one and bee has better control over his biju then gaara.

in terms of skill i would say gaara and bee are about even that is with out the biju's gaara did make kazekage after all and he has the skill and smarts to match.
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Chill out dude, didn't you read Gara vs Deidara fight? Gara blocked all his explosions including the one that would have destroyed the sand village. vs Rock Lee Gara was not yet at the kage lvl and he only used the sand from his gourd. Now Gara can use the sand from his surroundings.
And he can fly, meaning he is out of Killerbee's reach if he wants to be. Ofc Killerbee would win if he goes as close to Gara as Rock Lee did, the lightning blades can cut through his ultimate sand defense, but I am arguing that Gara would keep his distance, in short it is a case of range vs melee. And I prefer range.
There's a big difference between a blast, and a blade. I shouldn't even have to explain this, but whatever.

A blast spreads out in every direction. Every square inch of the sand is simultaneously absorbing the impact. A lightning infused sword targets a precise point in the sand, and channels all it's power through it. As such it has far more penetrating power then the blast does.

Just to drive the point home, you can take the fight between Gaara and Kimimaro. Gaara's ultimate defense came very close to being destroyed. Now if that's from just using a sharpened bone, I'm sure a lighting enhance blade would be much stronger. Gaara doesn't use that technique all the time either. It takes time to ground down the mineral in the earth, and gather them for that technique. This means if KB can deliver a sword attack on par with Gaara's Ultimate Defense, then any defense inferior to that won't work.


Now if Gaara tries to stay out of KB's range then fine, but it takes chakra to support the sand up in the air. It's a double edged sword for him to do that. On the one hand, if he has just enough sand to support him in the air, it won't be enough to stop a menacing ball blast, and he gets annihilated. On the other hand, if he does take a shitload of sand into the air with him, he has to expend a lot of chakra to keep it up there. KB can afford to wait for him to run low on chakra and come down. Gaara on the other hand can't afford to come down to the ground level. Because as soon as he does, KB goes tailed-mode and uses that insane speed and power of his attacks and takes his head off. It was shown when he and Raikage did their double lariat on the Kisame clone that their speed was about the same, as long as KB is in the tailed mode. So you see, it may seem Gaara is being smart by staying out of KB's range, but in reality KB's the one that's pushing him into a corner (so to speak). His chakra isn't infinite though, so at some point Gaara's gonna have to come down.

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if its a simple battle with out hachibi gaara would when cause of his defense, killer bee would have to stay safe distance and use lighting pencil to atk gaara.

i agree with most ppl if its a biju battle hachibi will beat te shukaku cause its eight against one and bee has better control over his biju then gaara.

in terms of skill i would say gaara and bee are about even that is with out the biju's gaara did make kazekage after all and he has the skill and smarts to match.
I just got to point out, that Gaara still had his bijuu when he became hokage. They just let him keep his job after it got taken out because he's still a good shinobi without it. It didn't really take away from his skills by not having it, except for not having his automatic defenses anymore, and having less chakra, but that's not really a big deal.

I still think he's over hyped though. Besides from his siblings, former sensie, and Sasori, name a bad ass ninja from the sand village. The thing is their is none. The sand village was already the weakest village even before the war with konoha. After the war they should have been even more devastated. I mean we saw how short handed Konoha was afterwords, and they were the winners in that conflict. The fucking sand should have been on the verge of collapse.

My point with all this is simply this. The sand village is a shitty 2nd rate shinobi village. Being named the leader of that village isn't some big honor. It doesn't instantly make Gaara awesome and shit because he's Kazekage. It's basically the equivalent of being named Valedictorian of summer school, or telling somebody that out of all the idiots he's the least stupid guy.
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im a fan of gaara but i know what his capable of, i dont over hype but i agree that if killer bee and gaara fought, killer bee would win, but it wouldnt be an easy victory.
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^Cool. That's a fair statement. It wouldn't be easy by a long shot, and I'm sure Gaara would get some hits in.

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying you were over hyping Gaara. I was just speaking about people in general. So I hope you don't think I was calling you out on shit or anything like that.

I do have to give Gaara credit for being patient. If their is an opening he'll wait to take advantage of it, instead of rushing in. Plus his sand does give him a bit more versatility in his attacks.
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IN my opinion gaara seems to share some of shikamaru's ability like waiting patiently in the mist of a battle to figure out the enemy's strategies or make preparations for a major atk.


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Virgil from Devil may cry 3 vs killer bee, any thing goes.
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If Kirabi is trapped by sand coffin he'll simply bust out by using the Hachibi's chakra. Really now his lightning affinity doesn't even need to be factored into this fight. Kirabi is demoniacally fast to a point that Gaara wouldn't be able to keep track of his movements. Even if Gaara was lucky enough to trap Kirabi in sand (which he wouldn't be) it doesn't take that much force to brake free as shown with Kimimaru. Are people now trying to suggest that Kimimaru is physically stronger & or more durable than Kirabi? Stop smoking crack fools.
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I would call Kimimaro more durable that Killer Bee due to his kekkei genkai enabling him to increase the durability of his skeleton to diamond hardness. Other than that, I've been saying that KB would destroy Gaara (before you decide to pick an argument for the sake of arguing like you tend to do).
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I would call Kimimaro more durable that Killer Bee due to his kekkei genkai enabling him to increase the durability of his skeleton to diamond hardness.
Well you'd be wrong since Gaara was able to brake Kimi's hardest bone with sand. Kirabi's regeneration & raw force because of his chakra would make Kirabi more durable in comparison.

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Other than that, I've been saying that KB would destroy Gaara (before you decide to pick an argument for the sake of arguing like you tend to do).
My comment was directed at anyone who thinks Gaara would win because well they're all stupid.
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Well you'd be wrong since Gaara was able to brake Kimi's hardest bone with sand.
Orly? I don't remember that. I remember Gaara breaking Lee's arm and leg. But the fight with Kimimaro wasn't like that. Kimimaro hardened his bones to steel and diamond durability, Gaara buried him in sand and Kimimaro made that bone forest to escape. He never had a bone broken by Gaara.

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He's shown regeneration? When? The only jink i've seen regenerate is Naruto.

Either way, Killer Bee would decimate Gaara. His lightning affinity, the power difference between the Hachibi and the Ichibi, a combination of those, all poont to Gaara being beaten by Killer Bee.
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