Poor sand people >': - Page 3

Sensei-Q · 02-05-2011, 07:12 AM

I wish I were there right now.

ACt · 02-05-2011, 08:39 AM

Good to hear, Nero. Keep it up. But remember, don't settle for anything less that a multiparty system. Remember Iran 1979 - just trading totalitarianism for hyper-Islamic rule isn't enough.

kluang · 02-05-2011, 10:12 AM

2 party system is the ideal one. check and balance.

Axiom · 02-05-2011, 10:49 AM

I dislike the two party system in the US. Much like what we have now between the republican and democrats. You end up with parties that are mere polar opposites. Which A)makes it hard to find needed moderation, and where B)people get caught up in antiquated ideologies behind their party instead of focusing on current issues being actually faced.

What we have now with our two parties is, one which is willing to take provocative action but based off close minded ideals. The other is full of good ideas, but lacks the backbone to enact any of them. This is why I am an independent. Because even though I may agree with bits and pieces of either side. Neither side even remotely offers what I consider to be the core values I see to be necessary.

As far as checks and balances. Are you talking about when they hold different respective branches?

Because there is no real checks or balance between them. They are separate entities, with no authority over each other. It is not always the case that each branch will be controlled by different parties, and even when it is the case its far less a separation of power imo, and simply serves to disseminate meaningful motions into an unneeded adversarial system.

Jaxon · 02-05-2011, 02:27 PM

^ Yeah, but you either get that system, or totalitarian Islamic state.

It's not about idealism, it's about practicality.

Axiom · 02-05-2011, 04:34 PM

Oh I agree. Idealism may have conjured the world, but pragmatism built it.

My issue is lack of options. Joining one side or the other comes with the expectation to vote based on your parties national committees decision on any given matter. There is little leeway for any autonomy or original thought. Media and official news outlets give minute recognition only(if that) to say an ancillary group like the Green Party. That system is built to fail anything other then the preconceived norms.

Take a hypothetical democratic senator. Who is pro choice, and believes in gay rights ect. But also happens to think that fiscal conservatism is necessary to safe guard the economy and shrink the nations debt. Now some random proposal from the democratic line comes along. The senator truly at the bottom of his/her heart feels is a mistake, and would threaten the countries financial stability. If this increasingly hypothetical senator votes against his own party he/she could be penalized up to and including being barred from running as a democrat during the next term.

Two party system > totalitarian Islamic state, yes without a doubt. But a two party system still unfortunately leaves many voices unheard.

**Mal** · 02-05-2011, 06:03 PM

I dislike parties. A democratic society should be able to function just fine with all elected officials acting independent of each other. The voting population would vote for the candidate who reflected their interests, and the concerns of a party would not interfere the the goals of those elected officials.

luffyg2 · 02-06-2011, 11:00 PM

Lollll when i read sand people i though for a minute that you were talking about star wars... but anyway yeah this situation is pretty sad.. hope they get what they want and that Mubarak leave soon... i mean if you cut the internet that's like cutting the last medium that still have some freedom of speech

KillerNN · 02-07-2011, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth-Nero

And we're back online,praise the revolution.

Events are countless,some of them are sad..some of'em are outrageous..but overall the results are Glorious.

Don't have time to stick around,got to get back to the street in 20 mins to continue my night shift of protecting the area with the rest of the men (there is no police in the whole country right now for reasons that i will mention later) then get back home to catch a few hours sleep then wake up and get back down to escort my brothers at the daily revolution, in the middle of that am supposed to keep studying for the one last test that gotten delayed Indefinitely because of this whole miss.

But am okay and will get back with moar detalis,for those who care, once things cool down.

It's enough for you to know that right now we are writing history,

and freedom will prevail.

Fuck yeah Nero. I've never respected you more.

Fuck yeah, freedom.

Darth-Nero · 02-10-2011, 03:12 PM

Thanks guys,in these times your care and support really means alot.

***Demi-God*** · 02-10-2011, 03:16 PM

Can you like, loot a pyramid for us? Thanks bro.

ACt · 02-10-2011, 03:17 PM

^ Heh. Save you time. They are empty already. However, if the Egyptian Museum is in someway compromised...

***Demi-God*** · 02-10-2011, 03:19 PM

Dibs on any Pharaoh mummy.

Darth-Nero · 02-10-2011, 03:26 PM

There are 2 mummies got broken down in the attack on the museum =(

and one gotten stolen along with few other stuff.

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demi-God

Can you like, loot a pyramid for us? Thanks bro.

pm me your address.

alengrew · 04-14-2011, 07:55 AM

I completely agree with you.

02-05-2011, 07:12 AM	#31
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02-05-2011, 08:39 AM	#32
ACt Heart Wizard Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Halls of Irreverence Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 5,337 Thanked 18,796 Times in 4,884 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': Good to hear, Nero. Keep it up. But remember, don't settle for anything less that a multiparty system. Remember Iran 1979 - just trading totalitarianism for hyper-Islamic rule isn't enough.

02-05-2011, 10:12 AM	#33
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02-05-2011, 10:49 AM	#34
Axiom [something clever] Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 74 Thanks: 489 Thanked 824 Times in 305 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': I dislike the two party system in the US. Much like what we have now between the republican and democrats. You end up with parties that are mere polar opposites. Which A)makes it hard to find needed moderation, and where B)people get caught up in antiquated ideologies behind their party instead of focusing on current issues being actually faced. What we have now with our two parties is, one which is willing to take provocative action but based off close minded ideals. The other is full of good ideas, but lacks the backbone to enact any of them. This is why I am an independent. Because even though I may agree with bits and pieces of either side. Neither side even remotely offers what I consider to be the core values I see to be necessary. As far as checks and balances. Are you talking about when they hold different respective branches? Because there is no real checks or balance between them. They are separate entities, with no authority over each other. It is not always the case that each branch will be controlled by different parties, and even when it is the case its far less a separation of power imo, and simply serves to disseminate meaningful motions into an unneeded adversarial system. Last edited by Axiom; 02-05-2011 at 10:51 AM.

02-05-2011, 02:27 PM	#35
Jaxon Groovy. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,397 Thanks: 3,608 Thanked 12,540 Times in 3,691 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': ^ Yeah, but you either get that system, or totalitarian Islamic state. It's not about idealism, it's about practicality.

02-05-2011, 04:34 PM	#36
Axiom [something clever] Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 74 Thanks: 489 Thanked 824 Times in 305 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': Oh I agree. Idealism may have conjured the world, but pragmatism built it. My issue is lack of options. Joining one side or the other comes with the expectation to vote based on your parties national committees decision on any given matter. There is little leeway for any autonomy or original thought. Media and official news outlets give minute recognition only(if that) to say an ancillary group like the Green Party. That system is built to fail anything other then the preconceived norms. Take a hypothetical democratic senator. Who is pro choice, and believes in gay rights ect. But also happens to think that fiscal conservatism is necessary to safe guard the economy and shrink the nations debt. Now some random proposal from the democratic line comes along. The senator truly at the bottom of his/her heart feels is a mistake, and would threaten the countries financial stability. If this increasingly hypothetical senator votes against his own party he/she could be penalized up to and including being barred from running as a democrat during the next term. Two party system > totalitarian Islamic state, yes without a doubt. But a two party system still unfortunately leaves many voices unheard. Last edited by Axiom; 02-05-2011 at 05:26 PM.

02-05-2011, 06:03 PM	#37
Mal Scotch Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,112 Thanks: 12,935 Thanked 10,883 Times in 3,862 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': I dislike parties. A democratic society should be able to function just fine with all elected officials acting independent of each other. The voting population would vote for the candidate who reflected their interests, and the concerns of a party would not interfere the the goals of those elected officials.

02-06-2011, 11:00 PM	#38
luffyg2 Genin Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 188 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Poor sand people >': Lollll when i read sand people i though for a minute that you were talking about star wars... but anyway yeah this situation is pretty sad.. hope they get what they want and that Mubarak leave soon... i mean if you cut the internet that's like cutting the last medium that still have some freedom of speech __________________ --->Anime Season Winter 2011-12<--- --->Naruto VS One Piece VS Bleach<--- --->BLEACH<--- --->Naruto Cosplay<--- New Movies Coming Out This Week

02-10-2011, 03:12 PM	#40
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02-10-2011, 03:16 PM	#41
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02-10-2011, 03:17 PM	#42
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02-10-2011, 03:19 PM	#43
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04-14-2011, 07:55 AM	#45
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