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Old 02-14-2011, 05:49 PM   #16
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

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Quotes for noobs (learn how to break up a quote)
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

To give you a size comparison of the amount of servers behind Watson, I have attached a picture of my Valhalla cluster which, while not containing 2 x POWER 7 chips per server that Watson does, can represent a decent size comparison.

Each blade chassis holds 14 servers. Each blade chassis is 7U tall in a server rack that is 42U or 47U tall. Essentially 5 of these if you include networking and other stuff in the rack. The IBM article assumes that there are thousands of cores of processing in Watson. There are typically 6 cores per processor, 2 processors per POWER 7 blade. This means:

70 Servers per rack or 840 cores per rack. Without knowing exact amounts, I can tell you that the storage, processing, and cooling racks do not take that much space at all. If you would imagine a file-cabinet at 1.5x the width and multiply that by 5-6, that is the physical size of the compute cluster. It's nothing short of amazing. That kind of processing power can be easily afforded by medium to high level universities.

To what end, I'm sure, but tonight will be the make or break for marketing for the POWER 7 processing infrastructure. You can thank IBM for the processors they put in your Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii.

EDIT: I would assume Watson compute cluster takes atleast 3 racks worth of servers)
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:45 PM   #22
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

Found a video with it that focuses on the sports questions, but there are bits about the Watson development. Anyway, to catch my point, 2:50.
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

After watching a few minutes today, I'm almost certain the computers reflexes are kicking their asses.

I'm told the question is electronically sent to the computer the same time it is read. I'd like to know if it is sent in one package or slowly revealed over the time read. If it is the first, the computer actually has a big extra advantage in time to take it all in at once, rather than the contestants.

In the end, that's just nitpicking over the fairness of the competition - which probably doesn't matter to the contestants because I'm certain they are being paid regardless. It is a remarkable feat in computer design regardless.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:07 PM   #24
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

I was off work yesterday so I got the chance to watch the 1st of the 3 part Watson special. Half the episode was info on Watson, and they mentioned a few things that answer some of your questions.


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Anyway, it should be rather interesting. I most intrigued to see if the Jeopardy question writers have created any particularly tricky questions to try and defeat the program (which is what they should do).
There was one question Watson messed up on. I can't remember word for word how it was phrased but it was something like "First invented in year 19?? this was the worlds first NON-DAIRY coffee creamer.", to which Watson answered milk. LOL, word association fail.


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I think the Before and After ones should be really tough on it.
They didn't have any category like that :/ Not on that episode at least.

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Also, will the computer answer wrong?
Yes. It missed 3 or 4 questions, mainly due to flawed interpretations of word associations. The Milk example was one of them, but there were others. One category was a 'guess the decade' topic, where you had to name the decade the answer was describing. Watson missed 2 of those. One question was to name the decade of the birth of Swing music. The answer was the 30's, but it answered the 40's. If I had to guess it was because the 40's were when that music genre was at it's peak so it associated it more with that decade then any other.

Another of the major drawbacks to Watson is that it can't hear the answers other contestants give, since that info isn't available. It only has access to the text file of the question. This means if another player answers the question wrong, it won't know that answer is wrong, and it could answer the same thing. There was one time when it did just that. For some weird reason Alex Trebeck decided to was scold Watson for it. Oh those silly canadians.



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Or only ring in when it is 99% certain it is correct.
It has a certain threshold for certainty. It's threshold changes from question to question for reasons I don't know why, but it averages around 50%-75%. If it's not that certain it just won't answer.

BTW, on the episode it actually displays (for the viewers at home) the top 3 answers Watson has come up with and the probability on success it thinks each answer has.


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Finally, I wonder the advantage of the computer having near instantaneous reflexes to ring in while the others, though good, will have human reactions. That should give some of the easier questions to the computer.
Watson uses the same buzzer the rest of the contestants use. It's altered slightly, in that they have a hydraulic pump that pushes the button to answer. So in terms of the time it takes to physically push the button Watson doesn't have an advantage there.



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Thought of something else: how are they going to do Final Jeopardy? It's like 30 seconds or something like it. That's plenty of time for the computer to search and come up with the correct answer which can be captured and printed immediately rather than written out. HUGE advantage for the computer.
From what I've seen Watson has usually searched it's database and come up with an answer in less then a second. I don't think the 30 seconds will give it any edge. If anything it gives the human players the edge here, to think over the answers more carefully.

The main thing I'm interested in, is what Watsons' Final Jeopardy gamble will be. Just how much money will it risk, and what thought processes were behind it.
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

Umm... some problems from episode two. One, Watson seems to have trouble with punctuation and less standard wording of questions. When the question contains "this author of "Narnia"" in a row he's 99% certain, but when they add "this king" separated by words in brackets then more, his % goes way down, often below 50%.

Also, Watson does not take the category into account. I say this because no one should have answered "Toronto" in a final jeopardy of "US Cities." Whoops.
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

I wanna note that I did further research, and confirmed my beliefs. Watson is made of 5 short racks of servers. For some reason they aren't using blades for rack density, so I am far more impressed. They are just using standard 2U servers.
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Re: Computer Learns Trivia or Birth of the Matrix?

I watched and was not particualrly impressed. First IBM may be a little late. Leslie Spring has been working on a converstional AI platform for years, and had a showcase a while back. WATSON seems to be a point for point reasembly of Leslie's SILVIA AI, all the way down to the predictive reasoning or lack thereof. What we have here is another state machine. Albeit an advanced one.

Also

WOPR>watson/silvia. "Hello Dr Falken, would you like to play global thermonuclear war?" /wargames was my shit

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From my understanding, Watson doesn't search the web for its information on the fly. Instead, it can be connected to any database of information (including the web) and begin "learning" by constructing its own database of highly interconnected information.
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My question to developers is what system is being conceptualized to allow for increasing capacity as memory needs rise. It should have to be an automated process in my mind, and while the obvious answer of the internet probably comes to most minds. I feel as if having an external system separate from the internet is prudent on several levels. Especially if the threat of it gaining sentience is even minutely real. AI+internet= superintelligence. Beware the technological singularity.

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