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Old 06-07-2011, 12:08 PM   #1
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Sasukes EMS

I know there is confusion, as to what Sasuke's possibilities are, so I'm attempting a guess on past situations...

"Madara Uchiha was the first Uchiha to awaken the Mangekyō Sharingan. He eventually grew blind from overusing it, and only by taking his younger brother, Izuna's, eyes did he regain his sight. This also gave him an "eternal" Mangekyō Sharingan that gave him great power. His Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan looks like a combination of both his first Mangekyō and Izuna's Mangekyō."

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Eternal...5%8D_Sharingan

Now if we replace Madara with Sasuke, Sasuke's should look like a combination of both his and Itachi's. But I question some things, why would they just LOOK like the combination, and the wielder of the new 'magic eyeballs' not have the abilities of the added brother as well. Something to think about...

Additionally at the bolded, I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE EYES (COMBO) IN THIS MADARA EXCEPT IN ONE FLASHBACK. But could that possibly mean that in a battle of the magnitude of Harashirma vs. Madara, that in losing 1/2 of the doujutsu component of EMS was sacrificed for life, but the powers of MS like Amaretsu, & Susanno are not available anymore. Until maybe another sacrifice of another EMS replaces said component.

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Old 06-07-2011, 02:47 PM   #2
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Re: Sasukes EMS

Sasuke does have Itachi's abilities though. There's differences, but the techniques are the same.

You're not the only person to not notice that Tobi has never been shown to possess the EMS design that was shown belonging to Madara Uchiha. It's part of what has kept the Obito theory alive for so long. Kishi has undermined Tobi's Madara claim at seemingly every turn and has never drawn those eyes on his face. At this point, it's likely because Tobi isn't really Madara.
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:06 PM   #3
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Re: Sasukes EMS

only thing sasuke is missing is tsukyomi, and madara well he could be holding back some of his's brother sharigan techs or he cant use them no more due to his current state ( him shell of his former self).
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Re: Sasukes EMS

sasuke does have tsyki

all 3 awakened within him

just that sasukes version is er shit, sasukes genjutsus are to paralyse and does not control time, with ems he may be able to do it

sasuke was always better with ninjutsu and manipulating it then genjutsu
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Re: Sasukes EMS

Susano-o is shared by Mangekyou users who can control both powers (Sasuke says this).

http://www.mangareader.net/93-32546-...apter-464.html

Tsukuyomi also appears to be shared by Mangekyou users considering Madara himself, said he'd cast Tsukuyomi on the moon.

SO, now, it's all down to the ninjutsu eye, which seems to vary... Sasuke and Itachi both have Amaterasu. Could be because they are brothers. I remember this was said by Danzou...

http://www.mangareader.net/93-43541-...apter-477.html

If we were to assume that logic^, Kakashi's Kamui is a power from his ninjutsu eye, he lacks Tsukuyomi because he only has one Mangekyou eye, thus, can't activated Susano-o as well. If we were to assume Tobi's right eye utilizes the ninjutsu power, then we may also make the assumption that his brother also had that power... So basically, brothers (at least) share the same ninjutsu power of the Mangekyou. Tsukuyomi and Susano-o are shared by all Mangekyou users though the nature of those similar techs may vary based on skill, chakra level, alignment, etc...

All speculation, so don't take this as fact.
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Re: Sasukes EMS

Well I was thinking along the lines of other jutsu's being available as well, like Itachi's crows (Sasuke's own version possibly the usage of more unknown birds), and or Itachi's infamous one finger genjutsu ability added to his own. Maybe I'm wrong, but logically if one set of eyes gives the other eyes new light and greater power, it is possible one of those greater powers is the abilities of both eyes.
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I think Itachi's crow bunshins and one finger genjutsu were just an extension of his skill, aside from inherited techniques. Like those techniques are to Itachi as FTG and Rasengan were to Minato.
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Re: Sasukes EMS

Itachi's calling card for certain Genjutsu is crows.

Sasuke will eventually become the Avenging Hawk.

I think that Sasuke will have different powers all together. I mean it would be a let down for Kishi to hold Sasuke from us for this long just to show a cool eye design and the same old abilities.

be cool if Itachi left a Genjutsu recording of his memories on his eyes.

Question, when u gain RG does it STAY unlocked or did Nagato just keep his out because he was always using it?
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I think Itachi's crow bunshins and one finger genjutsu were just an extension of his skill, aside from inherited techniques. Like those techniques are to Itachi as FTG and Rasengan were to Minato.
But thats my question, wouldn't all of his genjutsu abilities be attached to his sharingan. An example would be possibly if Shisui had a brother, and his brother took over his eyes, would said brother possibly gain Shisui's abilities that so many in the shinobi world went out of there way to add to they're own repitore of moves. Maybe none of that is possible between the two, but why, whats the significance in the appearance of both being within one users eyes, but, without the abilities?
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Re: Sasukes EMS

Maybe mangekyou powers just combine in strength. Sasuke's Amaterasu combines with Itachi's... The Tsukuyomi of Itachi's strengthens Sasuke's. Their, or lord, why even go there, Susano-o's combine to make an all more unfair version of Susano-o.

At least, that's what I think...

If the strenght of Tobi's right eye is a result from such cross over, maybe the power wasn't even as strong as back when until he fused eyes (gross) with his bro...
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Re: Sasukes EMS

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Well I was thinking along the lines of other jutsu's being available as well, like Itachi's crows (Sasuke's own version possibly the usage of more unknown birds), and or Itachi's infamous one finger genjutsu ability added to his own. Maybe I'm wrong, but logically if one set of eyes gives the other eyes new light and greater power, it is possible one of those greater powers is the abilities of both eyes.
the different between sasuke and itachi is, itachi is a genjutsu type even among the uchihas, so that's why even in the night of clan genocide he (itachi) was able to control time. even now based on the new chapters he (itachi)had special powers for the genjutsu to a point he was regarded as one of the top users of the SG along side shisui

whereas sasuki is a ninjutsu type
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Question, when u gain RG does it STAY unlocked or did Nagato just keep his out because he was always using it?
The Rinnegan is always active like the Byakugan, I assume.

Sasuke will have a combination of both Itachi's and his MS if we follow Madara's story. But it could also be that this is a one case scenario(Due to only one known person achieving EMS) and Sasuke could come out with a completely different design. I'm leaning towards the latter because Madara just had his Brother's design overlapping his and I don't see how Itachi's can overlap Sasuke or vice versa. Even if it did work, you'd have a fucked up picture. Anyway, we all agree a new power(s) will arise from getting EMS, right?
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The byakugan is not always active. When it is active the veins pop out.
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Re: Sasukes EMS

I was kinda wondering if we should expect Sasuke's EMS to differ greatly in comparison to Madara's.

Basically, Madara is the only person we know of who achieved EMS, its been stated that many tried to kill their brothers for their eyes or whatever so assuming Madara is the only one, he took his little brothers eyes, it is the opposite with Sasuke.

I know it sounds stupid, but my thoughts are that IF Kishi will make Sasuke's EMS differ from Madara's it will because he took Itachi's eyes and he was the little brother.
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The Rinnegan is always active like the Byakugan, I assume.

Sasuke will have a combination of both Itachi's and his MS if we follow Madara's story. But it could also be that this is a one case scenario(Due to only one known person achieving EMS) and Sasuke could come out with a completely different design. I'm leaning towards the latter because Madara just had his Brother's design overlapping his and I don't see how Itachi's can overlap Sasuke or vice versa. Even if it did work, you'd have a fucked up picture. Anyway, we all agree a new power(s) will arise from getting EMS, right?
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