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Old 07-10-2011, 08:55 AM   #14026
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

^ I have no problem with it so long as they are willing to raise the child as any other and let it make it's own decisions. You can't raise a kid to be straight or gay, which I think is where most people draw the line, but when you have straight couples fighting their children over homosexuality, I don't see why we should feel uncomfortable about gay parents. What we need are good parents, period. Not any one type, otherwise.

I'm personally waiting for the human interest story of a gay couple (male or female) who have a child, either with another person involved or paying for the eventually available technique of artificially merging the genetic material of two gametes, and then having them end up with a straight child of their own genetics. I find that humourous to think about. It's like a sitcom waiting to happen.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:56 AM   #14027
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:10 AM   #14028
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^ I have no problem with it so long as they are willing to raise the child as any other and let it make it's own decisions. You can't raise a kid to be straight or gay, which I think is where most people draw the line, but when you have straight couples fighting their children over homosexuality, I don't see why we should feel uncomfortable about gay parents. What we need are good parents, period. Not any one type, otherwise.

I'm personally waiting for the human interest story of a gay couple (male or female) who have a child, either with another person involved or paying for the eventually available technique of artificially merging the genetic material of two gametes, and then having them end up with a straight child of their own genetics. I find that humourous to think about. It's like a sitcom waiting to happen.
I really have a problem with the adoption thing. Both parents being of the same sex will influence the child the way the child did not deserve to be raised.

For example, I know this one guy whose father is rather cold, and almost never talks to his son, so his mother is the one who raised him mostly. He behaves more like a woman in many terms. Like, he loves manly stuff etc, but he changes his opinions and things way too often, which no male I know does. He is way too easy to influence as well, and is insecure, like many women I know.

On the other hand, my roommate's mother died when he was a kid, and he was raised by his father alone. He is all manly and all, but cannot fathom how to behave towards women. Etc.

Gay people adopting would be like that, only maybe worse, because, firstly, the kid would be picked at everywhere through his whole childhood, which automatically scars him with social skills. You get it, anyway, I don't need to list the things. Gay people are just different, I hate to think how their child would grow up to be.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:53 AM   #14029
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

While I agree with your concerns, Shrike, this brings up the issue of the nature of gender and gender identity. Is there really any proper way that a man or woman should act? I think there is, but only because I believe each gender was designed for a specific purpose or role. If I did not believe this, I wouldn't care if a man filled the role traditionally reserved for a woman.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:26 AM   #14030
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I really have a problem with the adoption thing. Both parents being of the same sex will influence the child the way the child did not deserve to be raised.

For example, I know this one guy whose father is rather cold, and almost never talks to his son, so his mother is the one who raised him mostly. He behaves more like a woman in many terms. Like, he loves manly stuff etc, but he changes his opinions and things way too often, which no male I know does. He is way too easy to influence as well, and is insecure, like many women I know.

On the other hand, my roommate's mother died when he was a kid, and he was raised by his father alone. He is all manly and all, but cannot fathom how to behave towards women. Etc.

Gay people adopting would be like that, only maybe worse, because, firstly, the kid would be picked at everywhere through his whole childhood, which automatically scars him with social skills. You get it, anyway, I don't need to list the things. Gay people are just different, I hate to think how their child would grow up to be.
Yes, but that argument could be extrapolated to any number of criteria:

Drunks; bad drivers; the religious; the atheistic; lawyers; single people; those people who put children in pageants; hermits; social elite; etc

Who you are probably does affect the child you are raising, but a good parent should be able to compensate for that, regardless of who or what they are. I feel there should be a lot heavier criteria on child rearing as it is, but since there isn't, I cannot say any group that is at least caring and supportive of a child shouldn't have the right to adopt.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:36 AM   #14031
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

What you would call good parents is quite rare, and in truth, all that could work in a much more advanced society. We are hardly ready.

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Old 07-10-2011, 10:54 AM   #14032
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

Yeah, gotta agree with ACT on this one. Besides, based on how goddamn unmanly most men are, it's like most children are being raised by two chicks anyway.

Imagine if two OH dudes adopted a kid. That kid would be fucking awesome. I mean, holy fuck ridiculously awesome. Like, goddamn we should all get together and build a castle and adopt a shitload of orphans, raise them, and send them out in the world to kick all kinds of ass. And then they could have a fuckload of kids and do the same thing. Eventually the entire planet would be full of goddamn badasses.

What I'm getting at is OH dudes are fucking manly.
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:46 PM   #14033
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:51 PM   #14034
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Yeah, gotta agree with ACT on this one. Besides, based on how goddamn unmanly most men are, it's like most children are being raised by two chicks anyway.

Imagine if two OH dudes adopted a kid. That kid would be fucking awesome. I mean, holy fuck ridiculously awesome. Like, goddamn we should all get together and build a castle and adopt a shitload of orphans, raise them, and send them out in the world to kick all kinds of ass. And then they could have a fuckload of kids and do the same thing. Eventually the entire planet would be full of goddamn badasses.

What I'm getting at is OH dudes are fucking manly.
And his name shall be David.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:52 AM   #14035
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

The new Song of Fire and Ice book A Dance With Dragons in several formats. It is the shit so far.

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Aye. I help when I can.
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

I'm trying to imagine parent OH pairs.. I think all the pairs are rather obvious though
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I'm trying to imagine parent OH pairs.. I think all the pairs are rather obvious though
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I'm trying to imagine parent OH pairs.. I think all the pairs are rather obvious though

List them. Not obvious to me, because I'm stupid.
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