Dagoro

I wish we had seen more of Garp during the war.

He has 2 feats: The colossal iron ball toss and punching Marco in phoenix form. One is insanely ridiculous, the other not much of a showing of his hyped power. Same with Sengoku. He has an interesting DF but we only saw him fight with BB for a shot while, but he was impressive though.

I would love to him fight Jozu, both are ridiculous in terms of raw strength and a fight between the two would cause a few mountains to be relocated.

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kluang

Ok my friends

lets pit two god killers

kratos vs spawn

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Dagoro

Spawn has had all kind of powers, at a point he was equal to a god. As much as I like Kratos, he is not winning this. Spawn has way too many powers and is basically immortal.

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kluang

You mean Kratos who single handedly took out almost every god at Olympus, withstand pummelling from Titans, best Hercules's strength, have lots of different weapon and arsenal cant beat a guy with an oversized caped?

Even Spawn feeds from Kratos past sins, his weapons and arsenal are gods weapons, forged at Olympus, that means his arsenals are holy. Isnt Spawn weak to holy weapons?

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Dagoro

Can Dragon Force Natsu beat anyone worth a damn in Naruto/Bleach/One Piece ?

If so who ?

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kluang

dragon force natsu is more powerful then shining naruto, masked ichigo

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Dagoro

No he isn't. Vizard Ichigo has much better speed and destruction feats than Dragon Force Natsu, and while Naruto has no offensive power feats yet his speed feats while in RM put Dragon Force Natsu to shame.

In my opinion Dragon Force Natsu can handle any of the other nin from Naruto's generation ( Bar Sasuke obviously), and some Jounin. I don't know about Akatsuki members though.

If we remove flight, he could handle most VC and Ichigo's friends in Bleach. He wouldn't get crushed by most of the captains but I don't see him beating any of them either.

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Dagoro

Ninjas and Mages collide.

Sakura, Hinata, Kiba, Shino, Neji, Lee, Ten ten, Ino, Shikamaru and Choji take on Natsu, Lucy, Gray, Erza, Wendy, Juvia, Gajeel, Cana, Elfman and Levy.

Lee can use gates and Natsu has access to Dragon force. Anime feats are not allowed.

Feel free to organize the matches to your liking.

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kluang

That is not even a balance fight.

Natsu, Lucy, Gray, Erza, Wendy, Juvia, Gajeel, Cana, Elfman and Levy have shown ability to level an entire city.

How about mages against mages which both sides have shown the ability to level an entire city

Jack Rakan, Negi, Albireo Imma, Asuna Kagurazaka, Setsuna Sakurazaki, Mana Tatsumiya

vs

Gildartz, Natsu, Gajeel, Wendy, Gray and Erza

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Dagoro

When ?

If you're referring to Mirajane giving Makarov the news that Natsu, Gray and Erza destroyed half a city during a mission than it doesn't count. We never saw it, and they clearly can't cause that much destruction all at once, it takes time.

The match i proposed was balanced, both teams have what the other does not. The nin have the speed and power advantage, while the mages have the range advantage.

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kael03

Natsu, Gray, Erza, and Gajeel are certainly capable of leveling a city by themselves. Not to the extent of Gildartz, but they can do it. Natsu would do it with glee, too.

Dagoro

So can Lee, Sakura, Choji and ten ten. If Kluang was referring to the panel I mentioned, it doesn't really count since we don't know the details of the destruction Natsu, Gray and Erza caused.

Going by their feats I can safely said it took time.

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kluang

One the very first chapter, Natsu level half a port. alone

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...1/c001/72.html

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Dagoro

The destruction was mostly done to the wooden ship, which is unimpressive.


Had he left a huge crater where the port was, than it would have been a note worthy feat.

Feats>character statements.

Natsu's best feat so far was destroying the upper portion of the R-system tower.

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Vengeance

Ummm ok... Main thing team Ninja have going for them is that they should all know basic martial arts since they're ninja. Honestly though Mages have far to much blast power here with people like Natsu, Lucy(Loki summon among others), Gray, Wendy, Juvia, Gajeel & Cana. Team ninja would need a defense against so many blast ranged fighters which they don't.

Before the fight even got to mid range combat Sakura, Hinata, & Ino would be knocked out due to a lack of speed. Mind you they're all close range fighters so ideally in order to be useful they would need to rush. Leaving Shino, Tenten, & Shikamaru unharmed in the back row. Chouji would be injured but due to his size could take a few hits while Kiba, Neji, Lee unharmed & within attack range.

Here is where it gets a bit tricky. Once in attack range Lucy, Wendy, Cana, & Levy would immediately be taken out of the fight by Kiba, Neji, Lee, & Chouji while Shino would have downed at least one of the remaining Blast Mages (lets say Juvia) while Shikamaru would have placed a shadow on one as well (lets say Gray) while Tenten would kunai death the one held. At this point Erza would finish off Chouji, Natsu would have clashed with Neji, & Elfman would have clashed with Lee. Gejeel would be gunning for Tenten, Shikamaru, & Shino.

Team Ninja
Kiba
Neji
Lee
Shino
Shikamaru
Tenten

Team Mage
Erza
Natsu
Gejeel
Elfman

After killing Chouji Erza would go after Kiba & kill him as well. Natsu would become a victim of Neji's 64 palms strike while Elfman would have transformed into full beast mode while Lee opened gates. Meanwhile Gejeel gets caught by shino's bugs & is chakra drained however he eats up Ten ten's weapons to regain his strength. He does some blast damage & takes out Shino. Shikamaru catches Gejeel with his shadow however since Gejeel is in full metal mode Tentens kunai can't hurt him.

Team Ninja
Neji
Lee
Shikamaru
Tenten

Team Mage
Erza
Gejeel
Elfman

Shikamaru does his batman thing & orders Tenten to stall Erza while Neji assist him with Gejeel. Erza tries to rush Neji but is stopped by a bunch of Kunai so she's forced to step back. Elfman & Lee are still going at it with both breathing heavily. Gejeel brakes free from Shikamaru's shadow & starts to rush him but is stopped by Neji. Shikamaru throws some shadows at Gejeel & Gejeel dodges. Gejeel launch a dragons roar at Neji but its stopped by heavenly spin. Tenten pulls out a 3 section staff & starts back stepping while dodging & blocking Erza's hits. Tenten uses paper bombs to gain some distance Elfman is suddenly caught in a shadow & Lee goes in for the kill. As Lee kills Elfman Erza launches a sword killing Shikamaru. Neji closes the gap between himself & Gejeel & finishes it with 64 palms.

Team Guy vs Erza

Erza gets pissed & Summons all of her weapons at once. Lee, Neji, & Tenten start dodging but Tenten is to slow & gets impailed by 7 blades. Lee & Neji rush Erza from both sides while Erza dual wields swords. In the end Erza is caught by their superior taijutsu ability.

Team Ninja wins.

The point to this little story is although team Mage has the superior fire power most of them can't do shit in close range.

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