Naruto 560 - Page 16

xxMESTxx · 10-21-2011, 05:09 PM

I still think kabuto using muu to do his tech, and it failing, is going to show some significance later on. Where him not knowing something about someones tech end up kicking him in the ass.

ask me anything · 10-21-2011, 05:26 PM

LOL, is KYF still spouting that 10 paths bullshit, despite the fact that it has no merit in the Buddhist beliefs that Kishi based the paths on. Man I'm glad that kid is on my ignore list. It would be even better if you guys would quit quoting him.

Human Rasengan · 10-21-2011, 06:57 PM

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Ummm yeah I just so happened to look at the anime to see if fillers are over & they weren't so I fast forwarded to the preview for next week.... Like wow... really now fillers are now downgrading Temari to be Konohamaru's sparing partner? WTF is up with that bullshit.

He might need a wind user to teach him his affinity and with Naruto gone she may be the next best thing

kael03 · 10-21-2011, 07:02 PM

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He might need a wind user to teach him his affinity and with Naruto gone she may be the next best thing

When was it established that Konohamaru had an affinity for wind?

Human Rasengan · 10-21-2011, 07:17 PM

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When was it established that Konohamaru had an affinity for wind?

It never was but that's the only plausible reason I can think of to drag Temari to the Land of fire to battle with Konohameru.. it's either that or another round of chunin exams since she and Shika were supposed to be over the next class

kael03 · 10-21-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

It never was

There you go. It's filler, filler arcs are retarded and can sometimes break canon.

Human Rasengan · 10-21-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kael03

There you go. It's filler, filler arcs are retarded and can sometimes break canon.

true. From the last anime episode they said they have a quarter of the journey left before they reach the cloud village. I take it their just giving kishi enough leeway to tell the story and then give the animators time to figure out where they will or wont expound on the story. Given the nature of the war it will be welcome to see some filler help flesh out the stories of these all to quick battles

NeoKakarott023 · 10-21-2011, 09:57 PM

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So... wow, yeah this chapter answered a lot of things for me.

but two things bother me still:

(1) Naruto used Sage Mode (+Nature Chakra) to use RS. Madara Absorbed RS. Madara didn't turn to stone. If you recall, when Pain did this, that body turned to stone. I don't see how Madara is immune to that. Plot Hole?

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73851290/14
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73851290/15

(2) Madara's Eyes are the same one Tobi has now, IMO. Madara's eyes were given to his cloned Zetsu body before death probably. This explains how Tobi had the Rinnegan to begin with, and Nagato came into possession of them later.

It's not clear though if removing the Rinnegan Eyes from Madara before his death permanently locked them in that mode (i.e. can't be turned off like Kakashi's eye). Because, Madara revived by Kabuto could activate Sharingan -> EMS -> Rinnegan at will. Presumably, this means Tobi cannot.

You're mixing things, the clone that absorbed was ONLY absorbing NE from Naruto in an attempt to drain him, but by the parameters he turned to stone, the Rasenshuriken was a totally different thing, used on different Pein clones, and if it were used against that one it was only to diffuse/drain/stop the jutsu like Edo-Nagato did, and Edo-Madara just did, the turning to stone was only because of the absorption.

Edo-Madara is the only Madara that has shown the EMS of his and his brother Izuna combined, Tobidara has never shown those eyes one time. Personally Edo-Madara seemingly trusts Tobidara within the plan, whatever it is, and dosen't seem concerned like he'd double-cross him, but more of how is shit going this way, wtf? And Kabuto wants to be a star, too bad he's screwing with the wrong ones... lookit if Itachi & Shisui can un-controll this Edo tech, wth does people think the tip of the Uchiha mountain can do? I have a lot of belief that this Dude is going to be the Truth, an Unchained Gorilla, I dig how he works.

AOTKorby · 10-21-2011, 10:27 PM

^I don't know what exactly you're trying to say there, but it doesn't appear to be about the quantity of natural energy. The reason Nagato's Preta Path got petrified was because of the sheer amount of natural energy. It takes 2 FRS to drain Naruto of Sage Mode, thus all of his NE. Preta Path absorbed the equivalent of 4 FRS in the space of a few seconds. That'd be why it was completely turned to stone.

stubborn_d0nkey · 10-22-2011, 05:39 AM

RS is balanced. The pain path wasn't absorbing balanced chakra.

Numinous · 10-22-2011, 06:35 AM

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LOL, is KYF still spouting that 10 paths bullshit, despite the fact that it has no merit in the Buddhist beliefs that Kishi based the paths on. Man I'm glad that kid is on my ignore list. It would be even better if you guys would quit quoting him.

Wut? Even after what I said last year?

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Since I don't know how KYF formulated his theory because he's on my ignore list, I can't say if it's logic or not, but for me, Tobi can't represent the Ten Spiritual Realms. The Seventh Realm (Learning) already runs on the premise that one should be free of delusion if they want to seek the true nature of all things. Tobi is filled with delusional of power and pride, so he's stuck on the 6 paths of the Samsara.

Someone doesn't really get what Buddhism is about.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 10-22-2011, 11:04 PM

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LOL, is KYF still spouting that 10 paths bullshit, despite the fact that it has no merit in the Buddhist beliefs that Kishi based the paths on. Man I'm glad that kid is on my ignore list. It would be even better if you guys would quit quoting him.

Lol, so kish doesn't change his basis for needed power ups for characters or bijuu?

namely the 10tails!!!! There were only nine, but kishi needed to take it a step further so he created a tentails. The same concept will apply here if kishi wishes to take the same old 7 paths and add three more by combining the RG and EMS to create the 10 paths.
Ur playing the same "Im a retard who acts like power ups don't happen" card. Its a Pathetic excuse to pick a fight because ur life is clearly not going too well obviously. If u want to pointlessly argue then go argue about the race BS in the 559 thread. If u want to speculate about this manga then quit bitching about my ideas and enjoy the damn story.

And Its still from a form of Buddhism so theres no reason to bitch about no real basis...

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Wut? Even after what I said last year?

Someone doesn't really get what Buddhism is about.

But u do. Ur a phony as ever I see....

In some forms of Buddhism the cycle of rebirth goes up to 10 paths where one reaches buddhahood. Thats what Im basing my idea off of...

And just in case u don't believe me this is the Buddhist [practice herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms

Human Rasengan · 10-22-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

If u want to pointlessly argue then go argue about the race BS in the 559 thread.

Don't send no more assholes in there .. I got enough to deal with

Good find on the 10 realms thing tho.. people are so quick to try and shut a motherfucker down without realizing they playing without a full deck

Freakout · 10-23-2011, 04:29 AM

What to say about this chap mmmmh... Some questions and nice action so nothing to argue about for me. I'm eager to see some more Rinne'gan powers except, this all is just a giant Genjutsu but I guess this will remain what it is, a thought.

Oh, and one more thing, Kabuto is so badass, controlling Semi-gods, knowing so much and with unknown intentions at all. I know why he is my favorite Naruto character...

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(2) Madara's Eyes are the same one Tobi has now, IMO. Madara's eyes were given to his cloned Zetsu body before death probably. This explains how Tobi had the Rinnegan to begin with, and Nagato came into possession of them later.

Didn't exactly look at this but I can explain why Tobi has Rinne'gan, he stole it from dead Nagoto's body after beating Konan just before the war. Nagoto somehow awakened it when two Konoha Shinobi killed of his parents, there isn't exactly explained how Madara/Tobi whatswhoever gave Nagato Rinne'gan yet.

Numinous · 10-23-2011, 05:32 AM

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But u do. Ur a phony as ever I see....

In some forms of Buddhism the cycle of rebirth goes up to 10 paths where one reaches buddhahood. Thats what Im basing my idea off of...

And just in case u don't believe me this is the Buddhist [practice herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms

Next time, READ WHAT THE MOTHERFUCKING LINK YOU'RE PROVIDING SAYS!

7th Realm (Learning):

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Learning is a condition in which one seeks some skill, lasting truth or self-improvement through the teachings of others. To access this realm, the experiencer must first develop the desire to gain wisdom and insight into the true nature of all things, free from delusion. This realm is characterized by the seeking of truth and wisdom through external sources, e.g. other people and pre-recorded information (usually texts).

8th Realm (Realization)

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Realization is a state in which one discovers a partial truth through one's own observations, efforts and concentration. Usually to access this realm the experiencer must first have decided external sources are inferior to internal sources, e.g. his/her own mind. This realm is characterized by the seeking of truth and wisdom through direct internal perception.

9th Realm (Bodhisattvahood)

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Bodhisattvahood is a condition in which one not only aspires for personal enlightenment but also devotes oneself to relieving the sufferings of others through compassionate and truly altruistic actions, e.g. helping others. This realm is characterized by the feeling that happiness achieved through the benefit of others is superior to happiness achieved through the benefit of only the self.

10th Realm (Buddhahood)

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Buddhahood is the highest of the Ten Worlds, a condition of pure, indestructible happiness which is not dependent on one's circumstances. The experiencer is totally free from all delusion, suffering and anger. It is a condition of perfect and absolute freedom, characterized by boundless wisdom, courage, compassion and life force. This realm is difficult to describe and is generally only obtained through the direct internal perception of the realm of realization. This realm is characterized by not being shifted into lower realms due to external sources, and the non-reliance on external sources for happiness. This realm is manifested outwardly through the actions of the realm of bodhisattvahood.

Simply put, if one relies on the Six Realms of Desire (aka Six Paths of Pain) it is because they can't ascend to the Four Noble Realms, where things like desire and delusion are to be casted away. Do you really think that anyone that had/has the Rinnegan (Nagato, Tobi, Madara) had/has any chances of achieving the 7th Realm, much less Budhahood?

It is obvious that Kishi is referring to the Samsara (the cycle of suffering) when he created the 6+1 paths, since all the Paths (Deva, Preta, Asura, Human, Animal and Naraka) are present in it and the Bhavacakra, the wheel of existence, represents the powers behind life and death (like Nagato when he was dubbed the 7th path).

Also, the Four Noble Realms belong to the Nirvana (the path free of suffering), which is the opposite of the Samsara and the Six Paths of Pain.

tl,dr: KYF, you still suck major balls when it comes to Buddhism.

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Its a Pathetic excuse to pick a fight because ur life is clearly not going too well obviously.

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people are so quick to try and shut a motherfucker down without realizing they playing without a full deck

10-21-2011, 05:09 PM	#226
xxMESTxx EffYouSeeKay Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Mountains Age: 22 Posts: 908 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 606 Times in 300 Posts	Re: Naruto 560 I still think kabuto using muu to do his tech, and it failing, is going to show some significance later on. Where him not knowing something about someones tech end up kicking him in the ass. __________________ "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -M. K. Gandhi

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