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Old 10-27-2011, 10:51 PM   #1
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Athiests...quick question...

Not really a debate but this question came to me a few days ago but then I lost the thought and then it hit me again so here it is and I'm interested in these responses

To all athiests- Do you have a soul.... and if so what's it for?
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:35 PM   #2
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

I am not an atheist, but I can give you an answer: There is no legitimate, convincing evidence that any living thing has a soul, and no reason to believe that life requires anything like a soul to exist.
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

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Not really a debate but this question came to me a few days ago but then I lost the thought and then it hit me again so here it is and I'm interested in these responses

To all athiests- Do you have a soul.... and if so what's it for?
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Quotes for noobs (learn how to break up a quote)
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:34 AM   #4
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

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I am not an atheist, but I can give you an answer: There is no legitimate, convincing evidence that any living thing has a soul, and no reason to believe that life requires anything like a soul to exist.
so as a believer you don't thinkthere is a soul or like most religeous things don't know of any way to prve its existance?
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:57 AM   #5
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

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Not really a debate but this question came to me a few days ago but then I lost the thought and then it hit me again so here it is and I'm interested in these responses

To all athiests- Do you have a soul.... and if so what's it for?
My answer: I sold it to gain the intelligence to make you look stupid, though that's not that difficult of a feat.

Actual answer: What Mal said.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:11 AM   #6
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Actual answer: What Mal said.
So is that a yes or a no do you or do you not have a soul.. its really a simple question
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:13 AM   #7
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I am not an atheist, but I can give you an answer: There is no legitimate, convincing evidence that any living thing has a soul, and no reason to believe that life requires anything like a soul to exist.
So in essence what you're saying is on that note there really isn't anythign special seperating mankind from animals?
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

HR, what is the definition of soul you are using? There are so many interpretations of the word that I'd like to know which one is being debated.
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so as a believer you don't thinkthere is a soul or like most religeous things don't know of any way to prve its existance?
As a believer, I believe that the "soul" and the "spirit" are two separate entities and that I have both. I have personal evidence that supports, for myself, the idea that God exists as I believe He does, and by extension the existence of the soul. There is still no external, testable evidence.

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So in essence what you're saying is on that note there really isn't anythign special seperating mankind from animals?
If man resulted from nature through natural processes with no divine intervention, then there is no such thing as a soul and man is in fact an animal. If this is the case, then I also believe that free will does not exist but let's hold off on that discussion until you've clarified your definition of "soul" to Numinous.

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Re: Athiests...quick question...

I'll echo Numinous: define what you mean by soul and I will answer your question to your satisfaction, but I can give some points:

Do I believe in an afterlife? No. With the biochemical death of my brain I believe my consciousness will disappear. All the definitions of "self" or "spirit" are created by my brain and without it, my "self" will no longer be. Someone who is brain-dead is not the same person and could be considered, if I can assume your definition, soulless.

Do I believe anything that is now a part of me survives my death? Well, yeah. We are atoms and energy and both are pretty universal that they will pass to some other form of life or matter and continue in this world as a part of something other than me. I am connected to life in that way so, while the "me" will be gone, what I am will remain, albeit in an unrecognizable. In so far as any of this being defined as my soul, which is generally considered to survive our corporeal bodies, I don't so. So I am generally inclined to not believe in a soul and any evidence to such is merely just the ongoing philosophical debate we have within and between ourselves when it comes to the definition of "self."
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Re: Athiests...quick question...

HR - Do you have a soul? And what's it for?
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I have a soul, as long as my conscience exists, I have a soul.
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Your conscience or your consciousness?
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