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Old 04-04-2012, 01:32 PM   #1501
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

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Being bitten to aid experiments is not the same as being experimented on or using "material" from that person in experiments.
No, but her ability to heal people was researched extensively. That's what Kabuto used to alter his own body.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #1502
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No, but her ability to heal people was researched extensively. That's what Kabuto used to alter his own body.
I'm not denying any research or experimentation on her, just that the post you wrote doesn't show that there was.

I know its just nitpicking, but I felt like it :P
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:54 PM   #1503
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

I have a question guys relate to the chronology of the manga.

At the time obito dies in the kakashi spinoff, how old would have itachi been???

I'm thinking of writing a fan fic spin off introducing itachi as obito's replacement in that team but want to know how plausible it would be, timeline wise.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:58 PM   #1504
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

He'd be 5, like he was in the Kyuubi Incident flashback. He wasn't even a genin at the time (he graduated from academy at age 7).
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:19 PM   #1505
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

Just thought of something... As itachi explained, Izanagi and Izanami are a pair and opposite of each other. Izanagi offers the ultimate defense while Izanami offers the ultimate offense (I can only assume as its opposite).

Think about The MS and what it offers.

:Tsukuyomi, a genjutsu.

:amaterasu, a ninjutsu.

:both powerful opposite jutsu that when mastered and used together form SASANOO, the ultimate form of defense and offense for an uchiha.

By follwing this pattern and the fact Izanagi and Izanami are opposites like the original MS jutsu were too. I'm thinking there is an ultimate doujutsu of the SG that combines Izanagis ultimate defense with Izanamis ultimate offense to form the ultimate jutsu even greater then sasanoo.

And since Amenominakanushi and Kunitokotachi were the ones who summoned Izanagi and Izanami into existence and Kunitokotachi was of earth and Amenonminakanushi of heaven.


:kunintokotachihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunitokotachi
:amenonminakanushihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenominakanushi
I'm theorizing the jutsu Izanagi+Izanami will be the bridge to the heavenly SG jutsu amenonminakanushi which offers the complete control of reality and illusion for the ultimate defense and offense.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:04 PM   #1506
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

I got a question. why didnt madara and his brother just exchange eyes instead of killing him and taking them?
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it prolly has something to do with EMS being a new light.. they had to use up their own eyes ability to filter light first ..most likely giving the ocular receptors enough practice and use to form the new kaleidoscopic eye..
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:07 PM   #1508
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

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I'm theorizing the jutsu Izanagi+Izanami will be the bridge to the heavenly SG jutsu amenonminakanushi which offers the complete control of reality and illusion for the ultimate defense and offense.
I'm theorizing the jutsu Izanagi+Izanami will be the bridge to the infernal SG jutsu eternal darkness which offers nothing but blindness.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:48 PM   #1509
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I'm theorizing the jutsu Izanagi+Izanami will be the bridge to the infernal SG jutsu eternal darkness which offers nothing but blindness.
I rather sure a whole new doujutsu which is the combination of Izanagi and Izanami will have side effects, but no blindness. Remember sasanoo had the physical effect of draining the body when over used which took life away from the user inevitably. However, over time kishi relaxes the side effects of haxxed jutsu to the point there is no side effects as we have seen now with sasuke use of a full complete sasanoo without even breaking a sweat much less his body physically being damaged from use of the jutsu.

By kishi's pattern we can easily imagine that kishi will relax if not take away most of Izanagi and Izanami's side effects as the manga goes on by some means.
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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Old 04-12-2012, 05:26 PM   #1510
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

I think the bijuu will pick their new Jinks IF Kishi keeps them around at the end.

Also did he trash the whole NEW SANIN thing that was foreshadowed?

Oh and lastly:

Naruto should be the oldest,long standing Kage since he IS Uzumaki AND host to Kurama. Self healing abilities usually leads to long life in things like this.
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Remember sasanoo had the physical effect of draining the body when over used which took life away from the user inevitably
lolwut? Nothing like this has ever been stated...anywhere. The only thing remotely mentioned about Susano'o's side effects is it plays hell on the cells. Considering it's a being manifested by the user's chakra, this makes more sense than it drawing on the life force of the user.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:17 PM   #1512
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lolwut? Nothing like this has ever been stated...anywhere. The only thing remotely mentioned about Susano'o's side effects is it plays hell on the cells. Considering it's a being manifested by the user's chakra, this makes more sense than it drawing on the life force of the user.
Itachi's sickness is likely based on the over use of sasanoo and where this comes from. itachi had a complete and full sasanoo plus added weapons which would have been hell on his body within the short time he had it. All the blood spitting said enough about the toll the jutsu took.

:Itachi spit blood from over using sasanoo and died at a young age mysteriously, tobi called a disease.

:nagato started spitting up blood when he over used devas power Shinrei Tensai, thus taking away some life. The jutsu shortens life span...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/429/9


Clearly sasanoo like nagato's deva realm power when over used causes physical damage to the body taking years away. Life energy is the energy that governs the life of each person in the narutoverse and what hashiramas power of body was based on (extremely powerful life energy), which is likely used when causing the user to shorten ones life in these instances because merely overusing chakra doesn't shorten life span and cause blood spitting. Just hospitalization like with kakashi when he overused his chakra...
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:44 PM   #1513
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

Um...did you forget that Zetsu, who was watching the entire fight, commented that ALL of Itachi's moves were different? That wasn't from overuse of Susano'o, not even from overuse of the Sharingan.
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Just a thought...

Kabuto seems to be hell bent on becoming just like the sage of six paths. He even mentioned that he was closer to the sage then anyone else...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/582/5

I was wondering how the sage could have defeated the juubi before he had the RG. I assumed he was Uzumaki thus capable fo powerful seals to just stop the juubi and seal it away. However, that still doesn't seem enough. Judging by the shadowy figure and the resemblance to juugo. Perhaps RS was originally a dragon sage which is how he got the horns and tomoe.

Juugo from the side (notice the hair texture and large nose)http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/579/12
Rikudou sage from the side..(notice his hair is the same texture, but longer and the noses are the same as well)http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/572/14
And don't give me the "so they look alike, allot of characters do" argument when descendants of Uzumaki are marked by red hair. The same nose and hair texture could be enough, plus the horns too.

Look at the ryuuchudou picture, there are tomoe flames...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/579/14
We know the RG is the ultimate doujutsu with 3 circles on the pupil, but no Tomoe. Perhaps the Tomoe and they're use came from RS's use of Ryuuchidou sage power's meaning the uchiha's fuuin on they're pupil for the SG originates from Ryuuchidou and why certain uchiha have special bodies like madara and apparently sasuke.

And the pattern around kabuto and Orochimaru's eyes is similar to a tomoe, but is likely a black pigmentation like naruto's due to the use of the Ryuuchudous natural energy IMO...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/582/5
Perhaps this design just expanded on the RS to his chest with the six tomoe pattern.
And for some reason the Kyuubi Kuurama has the same tomoe-like design around his eyes too... It extends from his ear though. This may have nothing to do with the use of sage chakra in the kyuubis creation. But, allot of the bijuu have dark circles around they're eyes too (those in which u can make out they're eye, that is). We will see...

Just a thought at this point...
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No matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you POWER/STRENGTH is no more USEFUL then a squirt gun....
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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