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Old 04-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #1531
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^What are you talking about? You can clearly see Itachis MS design on top of Sasuke's MS design. The ONLY difference being that the three extensions are a bit more straight. What color inversions? Are you blind?

Sasuke's MS


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Sasuke's EMS (Which is clearly a straighter version of Itachi's MS overlapping Sasuke's original)


I call it laziness on your part. Don't try to refute what I say if you don't even know what you're talking about. Nothing you've stated discredits the theory, with everything I've stated pointing towards it.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:11 PM   #1532
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^What are you talking about? You can clearly see Itachis MS design on top of Sasuke's MS design. The ONLY difference being that the three extensions are a bit more straight. What color inversions? Are you blind?

Sasuke's MS


Itachi's MS


Sasuke's EMS (Which is clearly a straighter version of Itachi's MS overlapping Sasuke's original)


I call it laziness on your part. Don't try to refute what I say if you don't even know what you're talking about. Nothing you've stated discredits the theory, with everything I've stated pointing towards it.
Then tell me why Madara's EMS is his exact MS and Izuna's exact MS.

As far as I know (and I have not read a singal data book), Kishi has neither confirmed nor denied your theory.

My question to you is why is one "exact" and the other not. You can't explain it, because you're not Kishi. All we can do is theorize. Hence why I said "laziness" on Kishi's part. He's not thorough.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:27 PM   #1533
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Then tell me why Madara's EMS is his exact MS and Izuna's exact MS.

My question to you is why is one "exact" and the other not. You can't explain it, because you're not Kishi. All we can do is theorize. Hence why I said "laziness" on Kishi's part. He's not thorough.
It is laziness on Kishi's part. But if you look carefully at Madara's EMS, it's not a carbon copy of his and Izuna's MS combined. Madara's design remains the same, but Izuna's bars shifted.

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Old 04-24-2012, 01:47 PM   #1534
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ok... i stand corrected as far as the design goes. one thing that doesn't make sense though is why is it both Madara and Sasuke's MS designs are the more prominent, while both Izuna and Itachi's are altered. It is their eyes after all.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:50 PM   #1535
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ok... i stand corrected as far as the design goes. one thing that doesn't make sense though is why is it both Madara and Sasuke's MS designs are the more prominent, while both Izuna and Itachi's are altered. It is their eyes after all.
It may be Izuna/Itachi's eyes, but the host body (and therefore, host power) belongs to Madara/Sasuke so it stands to reason that the host body would have their original MS pattern as the predominant feature.
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It may be Izuna/Itachi's eyes, but the host body (and therefore, host power) belongs to Madara/Sasuke so it stands to reason that the host body would have their original MS pattern as the predominant feature.
and now we can begin the whole body vs. eyes contingent now.

i get completely what you are saying, but in the whole elder/power/eyes vs. younger/love/body saga... me personally, i would have had both sasuke and madara's ems designs have itachi and izuna's features as the dominant features. this way, even more emphasis is placed on the eyes, and not the body.
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Then tell me why Madara's EMS is his exact MS and Izuna's exact MS.
I can't because it's not. Izuna's MS is upside down.
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As far as I know (and I have not read a singal data book), Kishi has neither confirmed nor denied your theory.
Nope, but everything points towards it, so the theory holds up.

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My question to you is why is one "exact" and the other not.
Read above. Neither of them are "exact". Both are clearly a combination of the two though.

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You can't explain it, because you're not Kishi.
My theory does explain it, actually. So until you can refute the evidence, or Kishi throws something new into the mix, it's the most plausible idea.

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All we can do is theorize.
Exactly what I'm doing. So how about you actually tell me why the theory doesn't hold true. Unless you can't.

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Hence why I said "laziness" on Kishi's part. He's not thorough.
I'm calling this laziness on your part. You jumped in this conversation, talking about how I'm wrong, and my theory doesn't hold true/up. Yet you can't answer any of my questions or refute anything I'm saying. Your entire argument boils down to "lolol ur not kishi".

How do you explain both MS designs? How do you explain Izuna being eyeless after Madara got his EMS, if it doesn't require both? What exactly is your theory?

Edit: Also, thanks Kael. I figured since he was speaking so surely he would have at least googled the designs so he didn't look like an idiot.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:51 AM   #1538
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LOL, I thought his nick is jerkyl_hyde
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:15 PM   #1539
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

This is a silly question but I wanted to ask everyone regarding all the jutsus that uses chakra (well some of them). For example when rasengan is applied to physical objects such as the earth and tree as shown in the manga, they all create a physical damage like breaking the tree and creating a whole. So how comes when you use such jutsu on a person/ninja, it doesnt physically cut the body or rip the body into piecies, if not the rasengan, atleast the fuuton rasengan should, considering what they both do ground and the objects around.

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This is a silly question but I wanted to ask everyone regarding all the jutsus that uses chakra (well some of them). For example when rasengan is applied to physical objects such as the earth and tree as shown in the manga, they all create a physical damage like breaking the tree and creating a whole. So how comes when you use such jutsu on a person/ninja, it doesnt physically cut the body or rip the body into piecies, if not the rasengan, atleast the fuuton rasengan should, considering what they both do ground and the objects around.

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Easy: plot convenience. Fights would be too fast to appreciate if jutsu did the same damage to ninja that they deal to the scenery.
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Easy: plot convenience. Fights would be too fast to appreciate if jutsu did the same damage to ninja that they deal to the scenery.
And yet the story it would be much more interesting. Kishi needs to take lessons from Kubo about how to put a hole into someone's chest.
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And yet the story it would be much more interesting. Kishi needs to take lessons from Kubo about how to put a hole into someone's chest.
I thought Kubo's fetish injury was ripping off arms...
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I thought Kubo's fetish injury was ripping off arms...
No...that's Kishi's. Tobi, Danzo, Jiraya, Orochimaru. I think that the worst thing that Kishi can do to a character it's ripping off his right arm. It makes you wonder...
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

As I recall the first time Naruto used rasengan it tore into Kabuto's gut pretty severely. Also rasengan is more blunt force then piercing. A great deal of the damage is negated since it blows the victim backwards whereas a tree or the ground or other scenery is fixed in place and has no choice but to take the full damage.

Also we've seen plenty of jutsu that put holes in people. Have people forgotten about chidori? I know it's been 200 chapters since it was last used, but C'mon. Also Danzo got chopped up, and crushed a few times, although he was in God Mode. Kirin is designed to completely atomize it's victim. Same thing with Ooniki's dust release. etc...
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How the hell is Itachi able to use Izanami.. where did he get Senju DNA?
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