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As if I didn't see your little switch of the words there. I am simply saying the Tobi=Anything theory, for example:

Tobi-Obito
Tobi=Tobi
Obito=Tobi
Tobi=Madara
Tobi=Yada yada...

Has been quite frankly annoying, overused and dragged out. Simple as that.

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Ummm what? The 4th being Naruto's father was obvious from chapter 1. WTF are you doing trying to compare that to Obito?

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^ What basis did you have to suspect that though?

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Minato being mentioned in every other conversation other characters had about Naruto.

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I think the point is that the only thing we had to go off was looks, The Fourth was blonde hair blue eyed and it was implied that he died sealing the fox inside Naruto. We eventually realized he wouldn't get some random baby.

So with Tobi (if the age difference wasn't a factor now), we have the spelling of it the fact he was shown with the left SG for a while was a Kishi hint.

Look this is what I THINK.

In the beginning Kishi probably did want to make Tobi=Obito, but just like other things in the manga that were good, it changed. soon as he made Tobi claim to be Madara Uchiha, the powers that be probably influenced him that the Manga isn't gonna be around long.

In other words he either had to rush it and doing that he had o make adjustments to be sure it still had the same ending he dreamed it would years ago. I mean look how LONG part I was, how short part II was.

Part III(which started when Nagato got sealed)is gonna be the shortest.

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Or, if you actually paid attention to Part I, you'd realize the multitude of parallels, like AOTK mentioned. You can see the start of the training of Jiraiya and Itachi's return to Konoha how abysmally obvious it was that Naruto and the Yondaime were connected beyond the story introduction.

Or a red herring for shmucks to fall into. Authors like to mislead people, you know?

Wait, are you telling me his editors meddled with his decision of who Tobi is? Care to prove that one? Just because he closed all logical instances to that theory doesn't mean he changed his mind from being for it to be against it.

False. Part I has 239 chapters, Part II already has 336 chapters under its belt. And if Tobi=Obito was intended as canon, I think Kishi would make it less... how do you say it, completely asinine!

Wait, there was a time skip in the middle of the war? How the fuck did I miss that?

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Seriously how many people thought Tobi can be Obito? it's stupid.

Answer this one then: If Tobi is Obito then how could he give the rinnegan to Nagato? It's been stated he did that, nagato was at best 6 when he was seen with rinnegan so how could that be Obito when he wasn't even born and if he was born he was at best a few years old.

Please, please explain me that.

Btw same applies for shisui, couldn't be him aswell.

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@HR: i just looked at some posts in this thread. You made my day with that Morotobishi Uchiha= Tobi shit.

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uzumakinagato

i suggested that Tobi MAYBE using obitos body...
part of it is zetus clone, part of it is obito,

not actually obito consciously
that guy is dead imo


there are many unexplainable things in this manga

for one

Edo madara recently mentioned nagato when he was revived and he seemed to know tobi when kabuto mentioned him..
how did madara know nagato, nagato is way past madaras time.

that chapter made me think
that tobi and madara had some kind of a plan before madara died

madara knew he was being revived (hence the nagato quote) but was surprised when he had it wasnt nagatos jutsu.
tobi mentioned that nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei for him.

clearly the 2 know each other.

i thought it could be madaras uchiha friend or follower..
or izuna

or part of madaras soul that he split...

but in obitos body

he survived this long by perhaps using a jutsu similar to oro's body transfer and also something to do with zetsu

UzumakiUchiha

^ Half of obitos body was crushed including his right eye; so what use could that body possibly have? There's also no reason or use to have that half dead body integrated with zetsus body; oh yeah unless you mean obitos body had the ability to use tsunade's instant regeneration technique. Then again he would have been alive; oh crap it doesn't make sense even from the narutoverse point of view. Just allow it.

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Explain why Obito was picked and not another person that died in the Third War.

Logic. Since Madara did survive VotE, he'd be in his 50's when Nagato was born.

Yes, and how is that relevant to Obito? Obito would be 31 if alive, while Nagato died when he was 41+ years old. Care to explain the timeline fuck up if Tobi was around Nagato's birth/early childhood?

Again, why Obito and not anyone else? What the hell did Obito have that others didn't? He barely activated his Sharingan at the time!

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Zetsu clone... Another stupid fuck shit..
If tobi is zetsu clone he don't need a fucking mask to hide a perfect madara face..

uzumakinagato

Why the hell use a body that's been crushed by boulders???

And how did Tobi knew that there was a body hidden under the rocks??

And last but not least (like num pointed out): Why Obito??

The guy had not much talent, why his dead body? at that point they were many other uchiha's and more talented ones I assume.

I don't care who says it you're a complete idiot if you think Tobi is even somehow related to Obito.

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^And how is that stupid fuck shit? Try not to be so ignorant.

Because he wears a mask? That's not enough, hate to break it to you.

Maybe he needs the mask to keep the charade of him being Madara going. Maybe he has a fucked up looking face, and hides it in shame. I'd love to know what makes the zetsu clone theory "stupid fuck shit". Without you having to pull anything out of your ass.

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Obito had his RIGHT side crushed by the rock, Tobi got hit by the 4th rasengan and his LEFT side melted like the zetsu part. Why take a half crushed body to fix the non-crushed side?

That's such a small and silly thing that should be enough to prove it isn't Obito's body.