khrystal

Pretty sure you don't interpret the manga in any way. Why in the world would Hashirama need Mito's help when Madara wasted 5 chapters of praising him as the strongest ninja and the only one who could possibly be able to stop him? Just why?

Read here and here what Kabuto said. You can also relate to number of bullshit Madara has spiled about Hashirama to.

With that, what Tobi said was for his own personal gain, he wants to become what you call the Sage not Madara. At this point Madara (sigh) is an immortal fuck who if he wants to can end the manga.

The Special One

11. Tobi represents an idea, that idea is bigger than Tobi himself and any one else. Tobi implies he's no one (seeing his face isn't pivotal to understanding what he represents), he might just be that.

This one seems to be gaining popularity.

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

U do realise that kabuto himself admitted he knew nothing about madara's prime and what he was capable of... said here through Muu...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/560/6

So kabuto praising hashirama as stronger then madara means squat considering how little kabuto knows about what madara could do with the EMS... like perfect sasanoo for instance...

The circumstances of the fight with hashirama suggest that mdara was too much for hashirama alone, against a madara trying to do nothing but kill... this is why madara was merely trying to gain hashirama's abilities, not kill him with everything he has... (tobi does not lie about madara... check ur self...) and Mito did help hashirama in the fight by sealing the kyuubi for him so madara could not use his super fast mobile nuke against him... lol... said here...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/500/5

Although madara does praise hashirama as strong... madara himself still only said hashirama is the only one who could possibly beat him... not actually beat him... nuff said!

That sounds like a pain knock off... After losing yahiko nagato formed an alternate personality based on the idea of inflicting pain on the world to bring peace... and pain was the personification of this idea and no longer a man... more like a god then a man...

Tobi could be the personification of his idea "bring war to bring peace..." but that's too cliche at this point IMO... I think tobi could merely be speaking of himself as a representation of his ideals... However, more of a representation of what he is... "the new sage who will bring peace to the world with his power"... not really who he is... Although he does have an original identity...

Likely that guy who chose to end his original identity right after the masked man was caught controlling the 4th mizukage and it was shisui who was suspected due to the genjutsu that was controlling yagura the 4th... yea its another shisui=tobi hype... YAY!

Yes... Ao recognizes that he fought shisui... "Its shisui uchiha's chakra.. Ill never forget that color because i fought him once.." http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/459/14
and that he believed it was shisui's genjutsu he saw through... "shisui had the power to get into his opponent s mind and control them... its the most powerful of doujutsu... My right eye saw through the jutsu placed on the 4th so u cannot fool me..." http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/459/15
Ao explained he fought shisui which is how he knows what shisui's chakra looks like... and how he knows about Kotoamatsukami because he was the one who saw through the genjutsu the 4th was under... so he cannot be fooled by the same genjutsu power that he has already saw through before...

Basically Ao is saying that he fought shisui... and it was him and his genjutsu that was controlling the 4th mizukage so using the same genjutsu with him around won't work since he has already seen through it before... Ao implied the controller of yagura was shisui... due to the genjutsu sued to control the 4th was certainly his...
and we know that the long haired tobi was the one shown controlling the 4th... however, right before the long haired tobi appeared in konoha the first time (clearly because he was found out in the mist and fought off)... shisui chooses to die silently and make it look like he destroyed his eyes and existence... So not only did shisui show himself for the last time right before the massacre... but so did th elong haired tobi that was caught controlling the 4th mizukage and suspected of being shisui by AO and even the 5th mizukage here "I cannot help but think there is a connection between that power (shisui's Kotoamatsukami danzou used) and the genjutsu that controlled the 4th mizukage"...http://www.mangapanda.com/93-29786-1...apter-461.html
SHisui's Koto, he had back then, not danzou...

Why did shisui and long haired tobi disappear at the same time when one was controlling the 4th mizukage and the other was suspected as being the one behind the mask using his kotoamatsukami... as that masked man...

Mysterious.... Take from this what u will... u know what I think...

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What

Just wanted to say this....

Childish mode activate!!!

NANANANA BOO BOO stick your heads in doo doo!!!

I told you He was Orochimaru!!!!!!!!!!!!

Encon Uchiha

Your a moron.

1.Tobi and Orochimarus personalities are too different.
2.Kabuto knows Tobi's identity "so your name is Madara these days huh?"
Why would Orochimaru want to kill his beloved servant?Kabuto admires Orochimaru hence he injected himself with his cells. If Kabuto knew Orochimaru was alive,he wudnt have injected himself to keep his master "alive".
3.Sasuke would recognize him
4.He wouldnt need to fear Kabuto or ask about how Edo Tensei works
5.Orochimaru is not old enough to know Madara in close terms
6.Orochimarus whole purpose was to acquire a sharingan,why would he be hunting Sasuke and Itachi if he participated WITH Itachi to kill the Uchiha clan and stockpile all those eyes??

do i need to go on?

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Orochimaru has nothing left to offer this manga as a warrior and an enemy... He is will likely be a brokedown, slowly rotting version of is former self... Who has nothing ot offer, but the truth of the leaf village and the uchia clan for sasuke... since realizing tobi is not madara.. sasuke must know Oro is the only one who knows what really has been going on...

I would like to see sasuke find Oro in Ryuchudou of the snakes and dragons... learn the truth, get some training to become a dragon sage.... then master the training by Oro giving sasuke his power again creating not a CS sasuke... but dragon sage sasuke... I mean Oro has nothing lef t at all to offer after he gives sasuke the truth... So finally dying and giving sasuke the power to perfect dragon sage mode would be fitting IMO...

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

Numinous

And I'll tell you you can't fucking read a manga if you think this chapter even connected the two directly, much less being the same guy.

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