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Old 07-25-2012, 06:20 AM   #16
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10 tails, Madara, Tobi, Sasuke and Naruto will make Kakashi and Guy look like genins.
Will ?

How about have already ?

This is Nardo at his weakest, and Tobi seems to be getting by mostly due to his phasing ability.
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Will ?

How about have already ?

This is Nardo at his weakest, and Tobi seems to be getting by mostly due to his phasing ability.

lol I said they already did, but right now Kishi is making the unity of Kakashi, Guy and Naruto essential to defeating Tobi. Obviously they will be pushed aside esp once Sasuke shows up. Agreed though
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:57 AM   #18
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So... a thing that was used again and again to absorb huge amounts of chakra known as Bijuu couldn't possibly absorb a jutsu.

Sounds legit.
That was done through Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals, which took several days and several people. It's never been shown to just absorb chakra on its own.

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Kakashi even called Naruto sempai confusing him with Minato
To be fair, that was meant to illustrate Naruto's growth as a shinobi. Factoring in the speed, similar appearance, and uber bad ass coat, Kakashi actually thought he was looking at Minato. Remember, when Naruto arrived to battle Pain in his bad ass coat? Kakashi was already dead. He never got to see it to associate Naruto with such attire as it's never been worn since. Also, with Naruto telling Kakashi that he was spoke his father, it wasn't entirely impossible to him as an explanation at that point. Despite Guy asking if it was Naruto, it's not until Kakashi realizes that that they aren't inside Kurama's chakra does he finally see Naruto and respond with shock.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:01 AM   #19
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That was done through Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals, which took several days and several people. It's never been shown to just absorb chakra on its own.

To be fair, that was meant to illustrate Naruto's growth as a shinobi. Factoring in the speed, similar appearance, and uber bad ass coat, Kakashi actually thought he was looking at Minato. Remember, when Naruto arrived to battle Pain in his bad ass coat? Kakashi was already dead. He never got to see it to associate Naruto with such attire as it's never been worn since. Also, with Naruto telling Kakashi that he was spoke his father, it wasn't entirely impossible to him as an explanation at that point. Despite Guy asking if it was Naruto, it's not until Kakashi realizes that that they aren't inside Kurama's chakra does he finally see Naruto and respond with shock.
Brother man thanks for that of which I already knew. I was joking with Dagaro. I was just pointing out "FODDERISM" which was how they were made to look when Naruto entered Bijuu mode.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:24 AM   #20
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

nice chapter ... taijutsu atlast .... it would be funny if the first page of next chapter shows us that the tiny crack enlarges and the whole mask breaks and tobi becomes rorschach and will be like "where is my face,give me my face?" lol
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:36 AM   #21
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That was done through Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals, which took several days and several people. It's never been shown to just absorb chakra on its own.
So it eats souls with a catatonic Nagato on charge but not chakra with Tobi perfectly lucid and incarnating the Juubi to add to it?

Also, it ate the contents of a canopy and a tentacle just fine.



I know you want to defend Tobi=Obito, but confirmation bias isn't the way to do it. There's even 4 possibilities for what happened
  1. Gedou Mazou absorbed Kamui
  2. Tobi absorbed Kamui with Preta Path
  3. Tobi dismissed Kamui with his own T/S jutsu
  4. Tobi dismissed Kamui by being Obito, thus having Kamui
So let's stop this cherry picking and look at things logically.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:45 AM   #22
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So it eats souls with a catatonic Nagato on charge but not chakra with Tobi perfectly lucid and incarnating the Juubi to add to it?

Also, it ate the contents of a canopy and a tentacle just fine.



I know you want to defend Tobi=Obito, but confirmation bias isn't the way to do it. There's even 4 possibilities for what happened
  1. Gedou Mazou absorbed Kamui
  2. Tobi absorbed Kamui with Preta Path
  3. Tobi dismissed Kamui with his own T/S jutsu
  4. Tobi dismissed Kamui by being Obito, thus having Kamui
So let's stop this cherry picking and look at things logically.
Numi, what is the trans for that on tobi mask?

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c595/12.html

Or is it just nothing... (just curious cause i think tobi did something)
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Numi, what is the trans for that on tobi mask?

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c595/12.html

Or is it just nothing... (just curious cause i think tobi did something)
It's a sound effect, since it's in the font used for it. Literally it says "pikuri", which means "flinch" (as someone would do when noting something).
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

Lol, Tobi told Kakashi to put that Kamui shit down, guess he didn't hear him. Thats called getting clowned.
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

Feel that was one of the better combat chapters we've had for a while. People blather on and on about how Kakashi and Gai are weak, but they have great arsenals and combined with Naruto's brute force, it seems to be effective. They're just up against Casper the Not-So-Friendly-Anymore ghost who you just can't hit. We've only seem Minato manage it basically because he could instantly be wherever he wanted (more or less).

I rather enjoyed this because we saw all three toss some strategy. It didn't work, but at least they are trying shit.
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I know you want to defend Tobi=Obito, but confirmation bias isn't the way to do it. There's even 4 possibilities for what happened
  1. Gedou Mazou absorbed Kamui
  2. Tobi absorbed Kamui with Preta Path
  3. Tobi dismissed Kamui with his own T/S jutsu
  4. Tobi dismissed Kamui by being Obito, thus having Kamui
So let's stop this cherry picking and look at things logically.
On the contrary, I never said anything was confirmed. You're just getting bent out of shape because it was brought up. My exact words were, "And the Obito troll train just keeps on going." It was a reference to my first sentence pertaining to the chapter last week, "Let the trolling Obito campaign begin."

After all this time? If I were suggesting Obito was confirmed as Tobi, there'd be some bragging, gloating, and mocking. Nah, that's just a nod to the fact that Kishi isn't stupid. He's fully aware of what he's doing with this having still kept the revelation of Kakashi's method to obtain MS, Tobi verbally dismissing Kakashi's attempt to use Kamui before it activated, the suggestion of a personal relationship between Tobi/Kakashi/Guy, and now this. Regardless of how he reveals Tobi to be, seems like he's having some fun trolling with the Obito theory.

Also, Preta Path chakra absorption requires contact, either physical or through the barrier.

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So it eats souls with a catatonic Nagato on charge but not chakra with Tobi perfectly lucid and incarnating the Juubi to add to it?

Also, it ate the contents of a canopy and a tentacle just fine.
Souls =/= Chakra

Yeah, just a canopy and a tentacle. Not really the same as absorbing the chakra from a jutsu, is it? We've seen it fight twice and it's never absorbed the chakra from a jutsu or a person on its own. Granted, that doesn't mean that it can't, but I'm taking things as that it can either.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:41 AM   #27
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So it eats souls with a catatonic Nagato on charge but not chakra with Tobi perfectly lucid and incarnating the Juubi to add to it?

Also, it ate the contents of a canopy and a tentacle just fine.



I know you want to defend Tobi=Obito, but confirmation bias isn't the way to do it. There's even 4 possibilities for what happened

  1. Gedou Mazou absorbed Kamui
  2. Tobi absorbed Kamui with Preta Path
  3. Tobi dismissed Kamui with his own T/S jutsu
  4. Tobi dismissed Kamui by being Obito, thus having Kamui
So let's stop this cherry picking and look at things logically.
Tbh its Preta Path or some other special ability of that war-fan. Look at the panel when Tobi notices Kakashi using Kamui, Tobi throws his fan up . I think the war-fan is an extension of his own body,explaining how it absorbed Kamui.

Yay, a crack. That means were getting Tobi's face at 600
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

This chapter helped this arc out a lot with the unity shown between Gai and Kakashi. Liked the teamwork between Bee and Kakashi as well.

The part that irks me though, is several chapters ago, Naruto had Tobi punk'd (both mentally and phsyically), and now he can't even hit the bastard.

I do like Tobi being built up as a fighter, but c'mon.
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Here's the bullshit, how can he be 'phasing' in an 'out' or untouchable state, and swing his Guitar Weapon around all over the place and hit, and block shit at the same time... this smells of bullshit, so Tobi can phase parts of his body, while other parts are intangible.

Not hating on the action, kinda impressed that Gai brought an assault, but Hachibi and Bee are looking like Bitches personally, they're the only ones in the crew not attacking, and though the tandem ain't as powerful as Kyuubs and Naruto, but I'm sure they're more powerful than Gai and Kakashi. Do something besides throw allies at the fucking enemy. Additionally KB is supposed to have speed that was near, and or, match Minato, he's supposed to be in Bijuu Cloak mode like vs. Sasuke, or str8 up Sword attacking, WTF is that about?
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Of course he can just phase certain body parts. This was established by Sakura (Yeah, she actually contributed useful information. Shocker.) the first time we saw him use the ability.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v43/c395/10.html
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