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Old 07-26-2012, 09:48 AM   #61
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The manga also shows us that it's ok to be a racist since it caters to superior races such as the Uchiha, Uzumaki, & Senju.
This isn't racism, but it is a form of prejudice (specifically the Uchiha), that which the name escapes me at the moment.

Other than that, never thought of Naruto that way veng. Question is, who's the Don? And who's waking up in bed with a horse's head next to them?
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This isn't racism, but it is a form of prejudice (specifically the Uchiha), that which the name escapes me at the moment.

Other than that, never thought of Naruto that way veng. Question is, who's the Don? And who's waking up in bed with a horse's head next to them?
Actually my full explanation on the issue is more about racism. Racism is a form of prejudice that relates to specific races which was within the example I gave. In my example the Uchiha (Japanese) are considered superior to people like Rock Lee (Chinese). We can go on to give the example of the blonde haired blue eyes protagonist (along with his father) being superior to the lesser class such as Rock Lee.

Edit: Just to elaborate on this prejudice is like me saying all Americans are morons. Since the American population isn't limited to a specific ethnicity it wouldn't be considered a racist statement.

A racist statement would be something like all black people stink, all white people are inherently evil, or that all Japanese people watch freaky tentacle porn.
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1) There may well be some literary or map correlation between the Uzumaki and Ireland.
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Actually my full explanation on the issue is more about racism. Racism is a form of prejudice that relates to specific races which was within the example I gave. In my example the Uchiha (Japanese) are considered superior to people like Rock Lee (Chinese). We can go on to give the example of the blonde haired blue eyes protagonist (along with his father) being superior to the lesser class such as Rock Lee.
Gotcha, but could you please answer my questions as well.

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Gotcha, but could you please answer my questions as well.

The Don's would be the Kages.
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Naruto is a manga about teenage gangsters that use magic by preforming gang signs. The Konoha gangsters go on missions to kill rival gangsters in a struggle for money, power, territory, & fame (the whole ninja village system).

The main protagonist has such a warped view on the world that he's willing to ignore mass murder in order to save someone who never really was their actual friend(Sasuke) to begin with.

Naruto manga also shows us that females are inferior to males while their job is better served in the kitchen & making babies(quoting Kurenai's father).

The manga also shows us that it's ok to be a racist since it caters to superior races such as the Uchiha, Uzumaki, & Senju. It teaches us that no matter how hard you work(Rock Lee) you'll still be inferior based on blood lineage. Then there's also the stereotyping of black males as being ether brutish ragaholics or aspiring rapers.
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The manga also shows us that it's ok to be a racist since it caters to superior races such as the Uchiha, Uzumaki, & Senju. It teaches us that no matter how hard you work(Rock Lee) you'll still be inferior based on blood lineage. Then there's also the stereotyping of black males as being ether brutish ragaholics or aspiring rapers.
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Bit harsh on Bee, isn't it? I mean, he loves the women, but he's not aggressive about it...

Interesting - I always though Kishi was going for an Ayn Rand power and talent should be rewarded and given the chance to thrive at the expense of the working class for the betterment of mankind, despite their needs or ideals being at odds with the rest of the community.

Oh, also war is bad and destiny is cool.
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Bit harsh on Bee, isn't it? I mean, he loves the women, but he's not aggressive about it...
Brutish ragaholic was in reference to Raikage while the raper bit was for Kirabi.

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Interesting - I always though Kishi was going for an Ayn Rand power and talent should be rewarded and given the chance to thrive at the expense of the working class for the betterment of mankind, despite their needs or ideals being at odds with the rest of the community.
Interesting I can see that as well.
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Interesting - I always though Kishi was going for an Ayn Rand power and talent should be rewarded and given the chance to thrive at the expense of the working class for the betterment of mankind, despite their needs or ideals being at odds with the rest of the community.
That's an interesting viewpoint ACt. Really never thought of it that way.

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But which kage is "the" Don? And who's waking up in bed next to the horse's head?

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Brutish ragaholic was in reference to Raikage while the raper bit was for Kirabi.
ACt's joke zoomed over your head, took a victory lap, and then zoomed again.


Raper: Like...someone who rapes, which would be a rapist actually.

Rapper: J. Cole, Wale, etc.
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Now now - Vengeance might literally think Kirabi is an aspiring raper, although in the world of Naruto, it wouldn't be rape since the women are just asking for it anyway.
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

I haven't read any of the Naruto chapters in a long time, but from reading these posts I can tell that Naruto still fucking sucks and, if possible, worse than before I stopped reading.

Also, Tobi is definitely Obito.
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I'm sorry, you didn't like my opinion? Just tell me, "It's a Naruto manga, it doesn't have to make sense"? Are you really a moderator that thinks "this is joke post." replies make you look cool? Maybe you are in the internet world, but I'm guessing you're one of those people that get teased or abused at home or at ar school...Next time be fair.
I was actually just giving you the benefit of the doubt by not assuming that you seriously believed something so embarrassingly stupid. For example, the belief that people reading the manga demonstrates that identity of a character is 'a big deal' is a non sequitur logical fallacy. What you said there was objectively stupid.

But yeah, too bad I'm such a cool dude in the internet world. I wish I could just go online and talk about the powerful messages I see in some manga targeted towards preteen boys, post stupid shit, and make baseless personal attacks on people because their opinion about my opinion upsets me. That way I could avoid being...abused at home and school. = (

Speaking of which, what a horrible thing to say. If I was some chick who was beaten or molested, you just threw that in my face because I made a post on the internet saying that I thought something you said might have been non-serious. Surely even you can see that saying such a thing doesn't give you the high ground here, to put it extremely nicely.

Edit: Oh, and that Bee dude is a character created by the japanese and has tentacles. He's definitely a rapist.
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Re: Naruto 595 Discussion

Wow, a good show case of tobi's true strength IMO. Without even using the RG's power tobi is taking on kakashi with MS usage, gai in gates mode and naruto in RSM... I think this shows just how powerful tobi really is after so much speculation of his actual strength....

And check it out, something I have been wondering about with tobi, but he finally did it... he made his weapon (his fan) intangible to pass through the rocks to get to naruto... This iMO makes it clear tobi is using an earth style jutsu to change the composition of himself and the fan in order to become such a low amount of matter it passes through solid things and vica versa like a ghost. Or just recomposing himself and his weapon to be harder then steel to block... like his fan did against naruto's huge RSM rasengan...

I think this is the ability inherited from hashirama as the one that allowed hashirama to land an attack on madara through his sasanoo.... Madara was shown with a sword through him and the only way for hashirama to land such an attack is to use his intangible jutsu on himself and the sword so they can pass through sasanoo then become tangible again to stab madara while inside sasanoo...

I do not really know exactly why kakashi's kamui failed against the gedo mazo's neck... I believe it is just simply that kakashi did not use enough chakra underestimating the strength of GM which is why he said "don't tell me" after claiming he had gathered enough chakra to use kamui despite running very low on chakra for ten chapters now... the small suffixes around kakashi say "panting" describing exhaustion which validates even further the idea that kakashi was just too waek to use kamui effectively...http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c595/13.html
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^WTF I don't even..
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But which kage is "the" Don? And who's waking up in bed next to the horse's head?
I answered your question already the Don is the leader of a crime family. Since Naruto has multiple crime families the Dons so to speak would be the Kages. The whole horse head thing is completely irrelevant to what I was talking about.

PS: Raper vs rapper har dar har I made a spelling error
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You couldn't list better examples than that?

*Sighs.*

Guess I shouldn't have expected better with that signature though.

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Kishi knows what he's doing? That's why he's changed Tobi's identity going on what three times now?
Uh, changed when?

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A reason that was never really foreshadowed in the first place isn't going to be a good reason at all. This is the biggest problem with Tobi being anyone but the homeless guy under the bridge.
There's been foreshadowing. Plenty of it.
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