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Old 07-26-2012, 05:47 PM   #76
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Uh, changed when?
Tobi went from being a good boy, to being Madara, to being no one. That's three identity shifts throughout the manga.

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There's been foreshadowing. Plenty of it.
No there hasn't.
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Chapter was 'ight. Tobi is the most annoying opponent to beat by far.
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Tobi went from being a good boy, to being Madara, to being no one. That's three identity shifts throughout the manga.
That's not Kishi changing his identity, but rather proving Tobi to be untrustworthy. The Madara claim was only believable to idiots. There was no way the fearsome Madara Uchiha would be such a bitch.

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No there hasn't.
Depends on who we get. Obito or Fugaku? It's been there.
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That's not Kishi changing his identity, but rather proving Tobi to be untrustworthy. The Madara claim was only believable to idiots. There was no way the fearsome Madara Uchiha would be such a bitch.
Because you know Uchiha Madara personally right? People only really started suspecting that Tobi wasn't Madara when Kabuto confronted him with the mystery coffin. Before that there was no reason to assume that he wasn't other than that he wore a mask.

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Depends on who we get. Obito or Fugaku? It's been there.
Zero foreshadowing with Fugaku also he's confirmed to be dead.

A serious lack of interaction with Kakashi early on discredits any notion of foreshadowing being done in regards to Obito. It's only recently (& by recently I mean this fight) that Tobi has even hinted at knowing Kakashi on a personal level. Even that at this point is debatable by simply assuming that Tobi did his homework on the enemy. Then there's also the fact that there was no personal connection between Tobi & Minato when they fought during the nine tails attack.
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Tobi is voldemort, stop all this obito stuff.

P.S. hmmm, it may just be me, but doesnt it seem like there is some connection between miburo posting here and bots?
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
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how do you break it up please
my reply 2
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and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
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then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
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how do you break it up please
my reply 2
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and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
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then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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What do you mean?
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Yeah, I don't follow either.
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Yeah, I don't follow either.
Maybe he is trying to say that you are a man with a dual personality. You play the role of Miburo and at the same time you are posing as the misterious bot. Wtf, nobody follows here.
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I dunno. Scanning the main page, I don't see any obvious bot attacks. Maybe one of my fellow comrades already got rid of them, but perhaps there were a bunch that showed up around the same time I started posting in the public section of the forum. So maybe the bots see me as a glorious sentient machine based on my flawless, machine-like reasoning ability and are drawn to wherever I am. Or maybe there hasn't been any bots since I returned to the forum, and he's suggesting that I'm so manly that even fearless robots fear me.

Though, the most obvious and likely answer is that SD totally has a super man-crush on me. = )
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Because you know Uchiha Madara personally right? People only really started suspecting that Tobi wasn't Madara when Kabuto confronted him with the mystery coffin. Before that there was no reason to assume that he wasn't other than that he wore a mask.
More like the fact Madara was basically Lord Voldemort in Naruto in terms of respect, power, and fear. He tried to take over Konoha, kill the first Hokage, and got the Uchiha distrusted and yet he still had a statue built of him as big the Hokage mountain itself where he was believed to have died. Not my fault you were gullible to believe a bad guy who got treated in such a manner would fight anything like how Tobi did.

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Zero foreshadowing with Fugaku also he's confirmed to be dead.
Plenty of foreshadowing. The fact Zetsu was shown to be able to fake someone's death right under the noses of Killer Bee and Gyuki (I'm sorry, but if you didn't think that was gonna come into play later? Slap yourself). Tobi having a Zetsu body to begin with, meaning his original human form was destroyed or too damaged for him to inhabit. The fact that the Uchiha can deny their deaths using Izanami and Tobi just so happens to have only one Sharingan eye he gives a fuck about. The obsession with Sasuke and Itachi. Fugaku being conveniently absent during Tobi's attack (despite being Chief of Police) and his wife knowing Kushina was about to give birth. Itachi stopping just short of stabbing Fugaku before crying (the death blow is implied, but never shown). Itachi and Shisui running around Konoha with MS, but the leader of the Uchiha supposedly didn't have one even though he was planning to lead a coup.

The fuck have you even been reading?

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A serious lack of interaction with Kakashi early on discredits any notion of foreshadowing being done in regards to Obito.
You mean besides it being Kakashi that was the first to discover Tobi had a Sharingan?

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It's only recently (& by recently I mean this fight) that Tobi has even hinted at knowing Kakashi on a personal level. Even that at this point is debatable by simply assuming that Tobi did his homework on the enemy. Then there's also the fact that there was no personal connection between Tobi & Minato when they fought during the nine tails attack.
Tobi told Kakashi to cut that Kamui bullshit out before even used it didn't strike you as odd? Nagato only knew Amaterasu was coming due to the pressure change because of the level of heat.

"Minato is always protecting you. But now I've gotten him away from you." The knowledge he had of the Flying Thunder God and even bringing the chains in advance. Also, Pain treated Jiraya pretty much the same way when they fought.
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More like the fact Madara was basically Lord Voldemort in Naruto in terms of respect, power, and fear. He tried to take over Konoha, kill the first Hokage, and got the Uchiha distrusted and yet he still had a statue built of him as big the Hokage mountain itself where he was believed to have died. Not my fault you were gullible to believe a bad guy who got treated in such a manner would fight anything like how Tobi did.
Even though Itachi and Tobi both stated that "Uchiha Madara" was a shadow compared to what he once was, as in that Tobi did not have the same overwhelming power as Madara and, as far as it seemed then, that something had stripped Madara of the might he once brandished? The fact that you basically kept telling yourself that the mangaka was lying to you the whole time when no evidence had presented itself is a sign of paranoia, not observation skills.

Also, maybe his "bitch fighting" (a goddamn idiotic statement given that it's a manga about FUCKING NINJAS) doesn't fit with your idea of Madara, but his personality hit the nail on the head. Tobi is arrogant to a fault, just like Madara was said to be, just like Sasuke, Madara's successor, completely is. He wears the "Usual Uchiha Pride" like a badge.

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Plenty of foreshadowing. The fact Zetsu was shown to be able to fake someone's death right under the noses of Killer Bee and Gyuki (I'm sorry, but if you didn't think that was gonna come into play later? Slap yourself). Tobi having a Zetsu body to begin with, meaning his original human form was destroyed or too damaged for him to inhabit. The fact that the Uchiha can deny their deaths using Izanami and Tobi just so happens to have only one Sharingan eye he gives a fuck about. The obsession with Sasuke and Itachi. Fugaku being conveniently absent during Tobi's attack (despite being Chief of Police) and his wife knowing Kushina was about to give birth. Itachi stopping just short of stabbing Fugaku before crying (the death blow is implied, but never shown). Itachi and Shisui running around Konoha with MS, but the leader of the Uchiha supposedly didn't have one even though he was planning to lead a coup.

The fuck have you even been reading?
I could ask you the same question.

One, you're making shit up saying that Mikoto knew about Kushina being about to give birth. She didn't. At all. Whatshername Hiruzen's wife bluntly told Kushina to drop the conversation before she revealed such a detail. Arguing the "DEATH BLOW WASN'T SHOWN" is fucking idiocy given that invoking that trope is so common in manga it's pathetic. While the reason for Shisui possessing a Mangekyou Sharingan hasn't been given and probably won't be because Shisui is not important, the fact that the MS was expressly forbidden by Uchiha and Konoha law like Izanagi and Izanami might have had something to do with it. He was probably leading the coup given that he was kind of the leader of the freaking Uchiha you dolt.

And lastly, you kind of fail hard when you go from "ZETSU FAKED HIS DEATH!!!!" to "HIS BODY WAS SO DAMAGED BY ONE STAB THAT HE HAD TO BECOME PART ZETSU!!!" (which itself makes no goddamn sense given that Tobi was part Zetsu at the time of his attack against Minato) and then proceeded further into crazyland with "HE COULD HAVE USED IZANAGI TO SAVE HIMSELF!!!!" which in turn violates both of your previous stated ideas. Not to mention that Tobi is completely out-of-character for Fugaku, especially given the latest iteration of "the truth" from Itachi's memories.

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You mean besides it being Kakashi that was the first to discover Tobi had a Sharingan?
Even though every other character saw it at the same goddamn time?

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Tobi told Kakashi to cut that Kamui bullshit out before even used it didn't strike you as odd? Nagato only knew Amaterasu was coming due to the pressure change because of the level of heat.
Hey remember how Zetsu can record fights and play them back later somehow? For someone talking about how everyone forgets about the "UBER IMPORTANT ZETSU" you sure do forget piss easy explanations.

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"Minato is always protecting you. But now I've gotten him away from you." The knowledge he had of the Flying Thunder God and even bringing the chains in advance. Also, Pain treated Jiraya pretty much the same way when they fought.
Oh hey, the guy who has been working toward a single goal for somewhere in the realm of at least 20 years, if not significantly longer, had a plan? How unbelievably out-of-character! Here's a thought: Kishi has made it pretty damn clear that intelligence and information are the biggest things that all the ninja fight for because of the tactical advantage it gives. Ya think maybe the guy planning to take on the Hokage and the entirety of Konoha alone might have maybe just done some fucking research?
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Never said these were the best, nor were they my favorites, they were just the ones that came to mind! I doubt Vengeance even knows who those two are anyway.

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Idiocy at its finest. Do you even know what the concept of foreshadowing is because based on that response you gave you clearly don't. I would have responded to that bullshit however Korby pretty much did it for me. No sense in repeating what's been said.
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I dunno. Scanning the main page, I don't see any obvious bot attacks. Maybe one of my fellow comrades already got rid of them, but perhaps there were a bunch that showed up around the same time I started posting in the public section of the forum. So maybe the bots see me as a glorious sentient machine based on my flawless, machine-like reasoning ability and are drawn to wherever I am. Or maybe there hasn't been any bots since I returned to the forum, and he's suggesting that I'm so manly that even fearless robots fear me.

Though, the most obvious and likely answer is that SD totally has a super man-crush on me. = )
New posts gave me like 4-5 pages yesterday, so yes, there were bots.

And nah about the crush thing, unless you have a light colored beard
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Quotes for noobs (learn how to break up a quote)
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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