xxMESTxx

My bad, I must have misinterpreted that. I just don't see how the topic isn't relevant in a thread asking nothing more than if you were for or against it. I mean its all about weed in the end.



Again, sorry. That was me expressing how crazy the the thought of the medical side of the argument being irrelevant was.


It would also be heavily commercialized for nothing but profit, and without a medical program we don't have plants being selected and bred for nothing more than there medicinal purposes for a multitude of conditions.



Because it's showing people a completely different side of the herb, and slowly more and more people are starting to open there eyes to the actual facts being presented to them. Most rational people know our governments pretty stupid at times, that's not who we're trying to win over, it's the people, and it's working. Don't get me wrong, it has its pro's and con's. Even with full legalization, the medical program still needs to flourish.

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Miburo

Tech raping faces in here. Baby blue is all like "Yo, it's good for sick people" and Tech is all like "You want it legal for everyone though, not just sick people amirite?" and I'm all like "Oh shit."

Come on guys. It having medical benefits just means we should give it to sick people, like we do with plenty of other prescription medication already. That argument sucks balls if you want it legalized for everyone.

Same shit with the caffeine crap earlier. You might as well compare it to chewable vitamins shaped like dinosaurs. It doesn't matter. The point is that it's pretty damn safe, especially when compared to other recreational drugs that are legal. You don't have to argue that it's safer than some random thing. Most people operate under the belief that something should be legal unless there is a reason it shouldn't be legal. Not the other way around. You don't have to present shit about safety. You have to counter any arguments someone would present in favor of it being illegal for safety reasons. That's it. Don't make shit hard on yourselves, and no it doesn't matter that it's currently illegal (You just have to phrase it a bit differently). Unless someone goes "Weed is more dangerous than caffeine derpaderp" then you don't have to say shit involving comparing weed to caffeine. And goddamn, if someone is saying that then thank ODIN you're debating against one extremely stupid fucking retard. Because that's the only type of person that would say something like that. How that got brought up in here I don't even...

Edit: I can see the merit in bringing up the medical shit in informative material. They do that shit all the time for everything. "Yo, check it out, pomegranates make you not die as fast by reducing high blood pressure or some shit! Fuck yeah!" That's cool, and I get that.

This is sorta a debate thread though, not an infomercial propaganda thinger thread...

ACt

^ Pretty much what I was saying. Legalization just because sick people need it only means we need to make it a prescription drug, like vicodin, which means the black market drug trade would continue, which has been pointed out as the real problem with illegal marijuana. If we are to argue that it is a recreational drug safe enough to provide to the public, whether or not it helps someone's glaucoma or appetite after chemo is irrelevant because that will make up too small a proportion of marijuana usage.

It's like saying we should lower the price of gas for everyone because ambulances can't afford to run at current cost of fuel.

I assume it has no side effects if you don't consider euphoria, anxiety, paranoia (all listed as psychoactive effects of the drug), increased libido, sleepiness, increased heart rate, dry mouth, cold sensation or sweats in extremities, short term memory loss and, if smoked, increased carcinogen and tar load and increased risk of heart/artery disease. Also, not reccommended for pregnant mothers as marijuana may decrease birth weigh of the baby, which is associated with increased risk for multiple diseases later on in life.

Gee, reads just like a drug commercial. Sure, not many of those are definite for all cases or incredibly dangerous, but no side effect? Don't be so blind. ALL drugs have side effects. They're fucking DRUGS!!

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Human Rasengan

I'm all for the legalization of Mary-Jane I might be a little biased myself as a avid user. I suffer from cluster migraines and aleeve, excedrine none of that shit works but smoking a bowl or two curbs the frequency in which i have them and does wonders for my sensitivity to light and nausea!

My birthday being 4/20 is awesome as well .. I always have a great time due to the abundance of smoke sessions but besides that Weed shoudl just be legal.. period.

The social justification of it as I see.. it's much safer than alcohol .. it doesn't lower your inhibitions nearly as much , you never hear of a guy smoking and abusing his wife and kids, it's great for stress relief, and it's legalization would lower the incarceration rate of my community. Taking the power away form gang's n shit it would lower over-all crime and simultaniously cause a surge in the economy.

Consumption of food would go up due to the munchies and our rescession would be over.. there are far more positives to the legalization of marijuanna than it's criminalization..

So yes MIBs was right even HR is in favor of legalization of mary jane.. cause hey.. she's my main thang!

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Vengeance

I personally don't understand the concept of weed being a gateway drug. Personally speaking I find I'm more open to do dumb shit that I normally wouldn't do if I was sober while drunk. From my understanding alcohol is really the gateway drug proven by my own personal experience.

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Mane what you said!!! I knwo plenty of peoepl that have doen shit on liquor that they wouldn't do otherwise. I smoked weed for a while before I ever touched a drink.. was trying to impress this chick and next thing i know I'm drunk n smoking ciggs.. i fuckign hate cigs .. now i cant put the motherfuckers down.. if only I didn't drink that everclear my lungs would be all the more clear!

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ACt

HR... you are such an idiot.

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manta

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/08...relieve_pa.php
Basically what HR was saying.

I am a recreational user, I read all the story about it the whole Reefer Madness bs and right now the only defense we have about legalizing it is for the medical advantages, you know the government wants to make money off it, but its a plant so how can they? If everyone can plant and make their own paper, shirts, oil etc where will the money go? And that's where we lose against furfaggots corporations and governments.

Also religious nutjobs that can't rationalize that its a natural plant, not a drug and is according to their faith, made by their "God".

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ACt

Really doesn't matter what HR says. It's how he says it.

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Human Rasengan

If I did it any other way I wouldn't be me. Sorry not here to spout shit off like some nerd or pompous asshole I just gotta do it the way it comes. If more peopel on here were real and just be themselves things would be a bit more interesting.

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kael03

It's not being a nerd or a pompous asshole to actually write like you have some semblance of intelligence. It's called not looking like a fucking retard while attempting to gain the respect of your peers.

You do realize that all of us are being ourselves. The majority of us (not claiming all, because I don't know everyone's histories) have advanced formal education and knowledge that comes from inquiring minds The interesting part is that you can't seem to grasp the concept of "intelligent discussion", you have to put in stupid shit that makes you look retarded to the rest of us.

Miburo

It's funny because I likely have the same level of education as HR and also post what I feel like without any regard as to what other people think the vast majority of the time. Yet all my posts are goddamn amazing, while all his are absolutely horrible. So I don't think the problem is that everyone else is a try-hard nerd. It's probably definitely more like he's fucking stupid and doesn't do anything to be less stupid.

The Special One

I just don't think it's worth all the headache it's made out to be. Tax the shit.

Hit the stuff before, not exactly the hype I was hoping for. Then again, I'm an infrequent user and haven't touched the stuff in months.

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ACt

You're right, I should be more myself. Apologies.

HR - you are such an idiot.

(See the difference? The first time I used an ellipsis when meant I paused. Far more direct with my knowledge this time.)








(Also, I have a huge penis.)

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-SassyLady-

Well I could care less if legalized or not, makes my mother more laid back and less bitchy at times, eases her stress.
And can't really say on the matter if I am for or against it, considering haven't smoked in two years.
Though do miss the munchie moments.

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