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Old 08-28-2012, 06:45 AM   #121
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Fake interview is fake.

The latest Comic Market was the 82nd edition, NOT the 78th, and it was held in the second week of August, NOT the third. And it took me a couple of minutes on Google to debunk this fake spoiler.
Anything posted by VIZ, or people working for VIZ, is bullshit. Just look at how they can manage to screw up everything they touch. The first sentence did it for me. But glad you have actual proof, because my seething hatred of that company isn't enough to sway people most times.


Weird thought, after reading that link, maybe that Victor guy is that Lalalalalla guy. They both suck at trolling.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:12 AM   #122
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Who knows what Kishi will pull out of his ass. As soon as I read this so called interview I immediately felt as though it was fake. Come on now...he builds suspense over these last few chapters.getting us all riled up over who the fuck Tobi is....and then he meets some newbs at a table and just spill his Bush's Beans???? Naw str8 bullsnit! (yeah I know) As someone said earlier we only have a day left, lets just attempt to be patient. As I think Stubborn Donkey said for the first time also in a while I shall not read the spoilers....I want to be shocked.....Good chapter or completely diarrhea bullshit! Hopefully the reveal also ties into how Madara knows of him.
That wasn't me, and I anyways usually dont read spoilers
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:15 AM   #123
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That wasn't me, and I anyways usually dont read spoilers
Haha my bad I stand corrected whom ever made that statement.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:16 AM   #124
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It would be fucked up if Kishi would troll us and show something else entirely. Like the Kages or Sasuke.
(Sorry for double post) yeah it would not shock me though if he did.....
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:22 PM   #125
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(Sorry for double post) yeah it would not shock me though if he did.....
SORRY DOESN'T CUT IT. USE THE EDIT BUTTON

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Re: Tobi = Obito = Shitty writing?

I most likely have missed something along the line as I don't analyze the manga to the extent of most people on the forum. However, (and please tell me if this is flawed), but anytime they show Tobi's eye it is always activated.....doesn't that tend to lead towards the idea it is a borrowed eye (as Sasuke usually turns his off when not in use). I know there are implications Tobi has the full power of the eye, but I would just assume any Uchiha would have full power using any Uchiha eye (same as Sasuke taking Itachi's eyes, etc...).......so doesn't the Manga up till now just prove that Tobi is a Uchiha, not necessarily anyone inparticular? I kind of thought he is some part of Madara's conscience put into a drone or a dead Uchiha (something similar to the way the 4th put a piece of him into Naruto) and using different people's eyes he collected.........personally, I think whoever the body that is in use by Tobi might be, the conscience is Madara.

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Old 08-28-2012, 02:33 PM   #127
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anytime they show Tobi's eye it is always activated.....doesn't that tend to lead towards the idea it is a borrowed eye
Not really. It depends on the user. Itachi, with his low stamina (due to whatever disease he had), was able to keep his sharingan activated constantly. The only time it was ever seen to be turned off was after he used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke and Kakashi, followed by Amaterasu when retreating from Jiraiya.
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Not really. It depends on the user. Itachi, with his low stamina (due to whatever disease he had), was able to keep his sharingan activated constantly. The only time it was ever seen to be turned off was after he used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke and Kakashi, followed by Amaterasu when retreating from Jiraiya.
For me it was a tell tell sign that Itachi was a counteragent within the Akatsuki. Notice the Akatsuki was full of killers, and though Itachi pretended he could, and he had the ability to, after the Uchiha Massacre he had zero confirmed kills. I won't say he did nothing to help capture the other Jink, but he didn't personally take part in anyones death until draining the Jinks.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:44 AM   #129
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For me it was a tell tell sign that Itachi was a counteragent within the Akatsuki. Notice the Akatsuki was full of killers, and though Itachi pretended he could, and he had the ability to, after the Uchiha Massacre he had zero confirmed kills. I won't say he did nothing to help capture the other Jink, but he didn't personally take part in anyones death until draining the Jinks.
He was assigned to capture Naruto though. Not saying you're wrong, but the only encounters he had with Naruto were the Part 1 one (where Jiraiya stopped Itachi and Kisame's attempt), and the half-assed attempt at stopping Team 7. Other than that, there was no reason to start conflict, since starting meaningless fights that do nothing to benefit you is a bit...non-ninja-ish.
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i here a year or so back when someone said this long ago.. where is that post anyways..

Tobi = Obito LOLOL EPIC TROLL
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1. How did Obito grow a foot to fight Minato?
Growth spurt. Puberty. Such things are not unprecedented. Dennis Rodman grew about a foot overnight.

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2. How did he heal the one side of his body?
Why ask such a question of a known Zetsu clone?

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3. How did he progress so quickly in less than a year?
He didn't, simply obtained MS (requires an emotional trigger, not training). Obito was able to accomplish what he did against Minato purely through eye hax. It's rather hard to bring a motherfucker down that you can't hit. It was one of the main reasons I began to suspect as much. He fought like someone who lucked into the mother of all MS abilities without learning much ninjutsu prior to that. All the other Uchiha we've seen fight nothing like him. Excluding eye related abilities (includes the Kurama summoning), the only thing we've seen him do as Tobi was the Hidden Mole jutsu and Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment, which are only C and supplementary rank jutsu respectively.

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4. Why would Obito go bad since he was explained to be like Naruto?
The same reason almost everyone in this manga does? They thought things could change and be good, got exposed to pain and hatred, realized they were wrong, and got pissed.

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5. Finally, how did his eye survive a boulder landing on it?
The bolder didn't land directly on his eyeball. People always forget the words, "The right side of my body is almost smashed... There's no feeling in it..." The guy was still capable of talking and this is a manga where people have magical healing abilities and they are not in short supply.

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When he was fighting Sarutobi.
Kabuto never fought Sarutobi, Oro did.

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EoJ: the fact that you have to give a hugely advanced tech that Obito had no knowledge of at his death to survive pretty well makes every point Obito=Tobi dissenters are making. You need the mother of all loop holes (which was used in probably the worst offense of this manga, the Resurrection of Konoha) to provide reasoning for Obito being alive. That's bad writing.
Why would Obito need knowledge of the Rinnegan's abilities if they were used by someone else to save him? That's a loophole? LOL. Chiyo and Gaara would like to have a word with you.

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It's been touched on a few times but with Tobi we have a guy who appears to have transplanted eye powers, transplanted body and a weird obsession with collecting everyone's sharingan (seriously, Obito worked with Danzo and got all the eyes? Where does that even begin to make sense??). He's obviously trying to get something back or become something he isn't (hey, this sounds like Orochimaru... who's probably involved). The idea behind the eternal moon mind control jutsu is essentially to strip everyone of their personality to end war.
Uh, seriously? Obito worked with Danzo to retrieve the eyes? He lifted the bodies when he killed them. The only deal that would've been in place with Danzo was that Obito had to at least leave a couple for him. It's not to get something back. He'd need his MS to become a EMS (had to kill whoever his brother was) and without a spare Sharingan, he couldn't use Izanami or Izanagi without sacrificing his most important eye.

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Sorry, we seem to have some miscommunication here, but Outer Path is ALSO the King of Hell. Or rather, the latter is included in the previous. So when I say Outer Path, I both say King of Hell's regeneration and Rinne Tensei.
The Naraka Path can interrogate through ripping out the souls of its victims who lie or leave them exhausted should they tell the truth, repair any damage by ingesting the body, transport bodies and souls using the King of Hell. The Outer Path can revive the recently deceased.

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When Kabuto was explaining Edo Tensei to Tobi, he also alluded to Orochimaru trying to bring back Minato but just failing at it.
I remember, but that doesn't mean he attempted it.

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That's not what ronnie meant. He meant Haku being introduced as ANBU recovering bodies of the village to avoid it falling on other village's hands.
I know what he meant. Clearly you didn't get my point. Being a hunter-nin doesn't necessarily mean they can enter one of the main five villages to complete that task without reprisal. Onoki's extremely distrusting nature (caused by Konoha no less) wouldn't have had him be alright with people just walking around Iwa, retrieiving bodies.
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Why would Obito need knowledge of the Rinnegan's abilities if they were used by someone else to save him? That's a loophole? LOL. Chiyo and Gaara would like to have a word with you.
Holy crap. That's the worst rebuttle I think I've seen because you actually think it even begins to address my point. Hilarious. You actually think that Obito doesn't need to be able to have any knowledge of the secret Rinnegan techniques because Chiyo developed over many many years an ability to transfer her own life energy into another. Which Obito doesn't know either.

Wow. Just, wow.
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It's not even a point. It's stupid because he got saved by a jutsu he had no knowledge about? So fucking what? Obito wouldn't need to know. Madara would've been the one using it, not him. Gaara had no idea about Chiyo's ability but it still saved his life. Same thing.

I never claimed Obito magically sprouted the Rinnegan under some boulders and used its power to save himself.
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??? A person who knew about the ability (Chiyo) used it to save another's life (Gaara). How the hell is that the same as a guy who has no idea about life resurrection shit (Obito) using it on himself while being crushed by rocks !?
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Dude, either you're trolling me or you're possibly the dumbest person to have ever lived; reading the same thing four times, written four different ways, and still missing the point.

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Never said Obito had the Rinnegan. Madara did and whoever Tobi is, he's met and colluded with Madara.
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Why would Obito need knowledge of the Rinnegan's abilities if they were used by someone else to save him?
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Obito wouldn't need to know. Madara would've been the one using it, not him.
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I never claimed Obito magically sprouted the Rinnegan under some boulders and used its power to save himself.
Madara unlocked the Rinnegan before his death. He knew all about Tobi and the Moon's Eye Plan as well. It would've been within Madara's ability to restore or even revive Obito regardless of the damage obtained that day.
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