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Old 08-29-2012, 02:57 PM   #166
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Clearly Kisame is well informed calling him Madara. The first panels you must have ignored what was shown as he never revealed himself to Kisame as far as we know. All that was shown to Kisame as far as we know was his sharingan
You can see that every time he claimed the name Madara there was a pause. Maybe it wasn't for dramatic effect but to use a name that commanded respect. Even Sasuke was able to look inside naruto and suppress the nine tails chakra.
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Omfg Kishi trolled so hard. He had me laughing so hard at how shitty this manga became.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:59 PM   #168
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You must've ignored the bottom panels in the first link that had Kisame demanding Tobi reveal his face (to which Tobi was stepping from the shadows just when Kisame woke himself back up). How else would Kisame recognize him years later when Tobi did the same thing?

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Rukia. You're argument is false.

But if you want more evidence: Sakura cut her own hair in the Forest of Death. Ino cut her own hair during her fight with Sakura.
Why to "this idiot"?

I'm trying to debate with you and this is how you reply. Just proving my point more about how retarded some people on this site are. I said I'm most likely wrong anyway. No need to be butt hurt about it. I just don't like the idea of Tobi completely being Obito.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:59 PM   #169
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...right, he clearly didn't see his face the first time, but immediately recognized him as the former Mizukage when he took off his mask the second time. Yes, that makes perfect sense -_-
So that would be you conceding that you ignored what was shown in the manga and have no idea whether he saw the face of the long haired man controlling the mizukage or not.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:02 PM   #170
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I'm positively GIDDY at all of the butthurt. I skimmed over the thread and noticed how some people are having a problem with Obito being Tobi because his identity was kept a secret, and others feel superior because they were always Obito = Tobi and now have a "reason" to shut down the naysayers. Kind of reminds me of people claiming that Minato was Naruto's father and people were like, "Nuh-uh!" Boy, that was sure fun when that particular shitstorm came to a close.

I'll admit that I was originally against the idea that Obito was Tobi. I mean, for fuck's sake, he got smashed by a giant boulder and then had his eye torn out. Logically, no one can survive that. But after seeing how many times this manga has defied logic (especially from a narrative perspective), I'm not surprised. It makes more sense than Shisui or Madara or Itachi or Sasuke or whoever the fuck else mentioned in the story has a Sharingan.
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You must've ignored the bottom panels in the first link that had Kisame demanding Tobi reveal his face (to which Tobi was stepping from the shadows just when Kisame woke himself back up). How else would Kisame recognize him years later when Tobi did the same thing?
All we saw was him in the shadows, we couldnt even tell if he was wearing a mask or not so you must be ignoring the panels. Literally the last panel of him has his whole upper half in the shadows.
OK, I don't always agree with kael, or how handles discussions with others, but I completely agree with him here.

And technically, animefan is right. Technically, we didn't see Tobi reveal his face to Kisame back then.

But what kael is using as his basis is an inference, an implication.

I'm telling ya, I truly believe next week Tobi is going to be a Zetsu clone.
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What I did find interesting about this chapter is that Guy, Ebisu, & Genma were once a team. Seems like a stronger team when compared to Kakashi, Obito, & Rin.
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I'm positively GIDDY at all of the butthurt. I skimmed over the thread and noticed how some people are having a problem with Obito being Tobi because his identity was kept a secret, and others feel superior because they were always Obito = Tobi and now have a "reason" to shut down the naysayers. Kind of reminds me of people claiming that Minato was Naruto's father and people were like, "Nuh-uh!" Boy, that was sure fun when that particular shitstorm came to a close.

I'll admit that I was originally against the idea that Obito was Tobi. I mean, for fuck's sake, he got smashed by a giant boulder and then had his eye torn out. Logically, no one can survive that. But after seeing how many times this manga has defied logic (especially from a narrative perspective), I'm not surprised. It makes more sense than Shisui or Madara or Itachi or Sasuke or whoever the fuck else mentioned in the story has a Sharingan.
He was made more logical than every other Uchiha in this arc. If Kishi didn't do the whole Kamui thing then the Obito theory would have still been lame. Before the fight Kagami or Izuna would have been more logical.

Anyway, I doubt Kishi even knew who Tobi was going to be when he made him.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:16 PM   #174
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How was Obito controlling the Mizukage when he was a kid? That points to another Tobi or someone in Obito's body (which I doubt since he has the feelings of the normal Obito).
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:34 PM   #175
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The best part: this is a manga that has magic eyes. This could all be an illusion.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #177
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How was Obito controlling the Mizukage when he was a kid? That points to another Tobi or someone in Obito's body (which I doubt since he has the feelings of the normal Obito).
Agreed! ANd how no one wants to believe shisui is involved in akatsuki and the tobi mystery is beyond me... It was SHisui's Kotoamatsukami that AO is sure was controlling yagura the 4th mizukage... and was confirmed that long haired tobi was the person who was actually wielding it...

With shisui and long haired tobi being suspected of being the same person in the mist controlling yagura with kotoamatsukami... then at a time recent to when tobi was busted controlling the mizukage... Shisui and long haired tobi both showed up in konaha just hours apart, for the last time ever too... the two pelple suspected of being the same person both disappeared on the same day, just after yagura was broken out of tobi's/shisui's control...

This enough to suggest long haired tobi and shisui are likely the same person...

And Obito having a MS beyond the standard amaterasu, Kamui... and having the same jutsu in both eyes too... Its the same as shisui's which is a genjutsu beyond tsukuyomi, kotoamatsukami... and its also the same jutsu in both eyes... So obito and shisui are connected by that.... It could be they are brothers...
Hell, shisui could be the one who rescued and had obito Resurrected...(although its unlikely)...

Its just that long haired tobi seems to definitely be a different person IMO... and possibly even the short haired tobi who fought minato and attacked the village 16 years ago... SImply because not only should obito of been only kakashi's size at 14 which was nowhere near as tall as tobi then... or as skilled ans strong considering how much weaker obito was then kakashi much less Gai...
The fact that tobi attacked the leaf village trying to destroy it and its inhabitants which happened to be minato, his master and likely mentor... Kakashi, his best friend he gave hsi other eye... and even more, Rin... the Love of his life...

WHy would obito attack and try to kill his mentor, best friend and love of his life not even a year after he was supposed to of died...
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I dont know if I'll write a prediction, so I'll reveal a bit more about the organization/group zetsu is in.

They are the cause of obito's (body's) growth.

Oh, and zetsu is obito's watcher/keeper.
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
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how do you break it up please
my reply 2
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and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
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then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

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My reply 1
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how do you break it up please
my reply 2
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my reply 3
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then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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What I did find interesting about this chapter is that Guy, Ebisu, & Genma were once a team. Seems like a stronger team when compared to Kakashi, Obito, & Rin.
Also most teams back then were sausage fests if you compare it with Naruto's generation
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What I did find interesting about this chapter is that Guy, Ebisu, & Genma were once a team. Seems like a stronger team when compared to Kakashi, Obito, & Rin.
until yesterday, yes. Not now, since we now know how obito turned out..

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but yeah, so obito really is tobi. lets see how kishi explains this. esp the middle panel here.
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