Naruto_600 - Page 7

jericho Uzimaki · 09-05-2012, 01:52 PM

I will say it again Kakashi asked him why he didn't come back to the village, the answer given was .... Cause Rin died.

Now if he asked "why have you become evil and want to do all these things?" then THAT would be be different.

Basically I got out of that he didn't come back because he felt nothing was there for him.
So eventually he ran into Mr. bad Influence Uchiha over there and the rest is a secret history Kishi probably won't have the time to go into completely.

Now the loop holes will hopefully be filled far as When was it Obito and when was it Madara? My guess it was only Obito when he surfaced with Akatski, replacing Orochimaru(so to speak).

How he used his jutsu years before now i don't know.

apacolypz · 09-05-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

It's also huge as shit and you'd probably see it coming in.

Pictures exist in this manga.

Naruto's also dumb as shit 80% of the time. He looked at the Hokage Mountain for years and still couldn't deduce that Minato was his father. Gaara was just in total WTF mode. Besides, most of the forces couldn't even make them out, hence the whole "There someone else up there!" He was still coming in view.

Uh, says who?

He's always been using Kamui with MS. Kishi was just hiding the pattern to protect his identity.

Yeah, that must be clearly why I mocked Obito's reasoning earlier. Said it before and I'll say it again, I've been anticipating this to be the reasoning for years now so I've kinda come to terms with it.

I agree that Kishi hid the pattern. So many moments where he was using Kamui but had base sharingan. Also moments where he is switching to use MS techniques.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/7.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c598/8.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c599/15.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c600/3.html

I mean I agree but it could be also different usages of the same ability.

Numinous · 09-05-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

Yeah, that must be clearly why I mocked Obito's reasoning earlier. Said it before and I'll say it again, I've been anticipating this to be the reasoning for years now so I've kinda come to terms with it.

You say many things, but what you do is trying to excuse Kishimoto's writing with "oh I saw it miles away" or "I've come to terms with it".

Newsflash, it's not by you conforming to the writing that suddenly everybody will conform to it. It's not by you saying "well, makes sense to me" that it'll sudden make sense for everyone. It's not by you saying "oh, it's not that bad" that the writing will suddenly not be bad.

I'm being objective here. I'm not criticizing Kishimoto just because he didn't do what I wanted from Tobi, it's because it's simply deplorable, specially compared to his early writings. And it's not the first time I found myself going "the fuck am I reading?" with a writer. Eça de Queirós was brilliant with "The City and the Mountains" which depicts with wit the delay of late XIX century Portugal's progress compared to the rest of Western Europe, "The Maias" where he tackles incest and social status and "The Sin of Father Amaro" where he pretty much stabs the Catholic Church by depicting a priest in inner turmoil due to lust. And then he has "The Yellow Sofa", which is pretty much a whinefest from a dimwit who caught his wife cheating on him.

And I consider Eça de Queirós a great writer and an inspiration for my writing, despite "The Yellow Sofa". The same I say of Part I Kishimoto, but Part II Kishimoto, specially after Hunt for Itachi Arc, has been consistently bad and one could've hoped for Part I Kishi to appear now, since the ending is normally one of the first things writers come up with. But no, still shitty writing that gave us the Juubi and armadillo dicks.

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha

However, Kishi will surely explain Obito/Tobi's origins with much more complexity than just Zetsu and a bit goo.

I have my doubts. It wouldn't be the first time Kishimoto would half-ass a backstory *cough*Kinkaku&Ginkaku*cough*

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-05-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reesaroni

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

Konohamaru will be in the last fight. It's indisputable.

Think he has to die or just be in it?

You obviously know nothing about this manga if you have to ask.

The Special One · 09-05-2012, 03:18 PM

I'm still amazed here... Obito was a cheesy, annoying dweeb but still a somewhat admirable character (at least his fatal, selfless act)... I fail to see how this complete 180 can even be rationally justified. Kishi's like literally holding character at gun point right now, popping shots at Obito's face.

ACt · 09-05-2012, 03:23 PM

What amazes me more is that Madara knows who he is. Somehow, Madara survived VOTE fight with Hashirama long enough to be around to meet and know Obito (especially after his turn) yet not be openly involved in Konoha and die before now so Kabuto could resurrect him and yet not recognize any of the Kage's beyond the old fart.

Reesaroni · 09-05-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

You obviously know nothing about this manga if you have to ask.

I was asking more of your thoughts on it not the way kishi will take it. I probably should have said should he die, but I didn't.

The Special One · 09-05-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ACt

What amazes me more is that Madara knows who he is. Somehow, Madara survived VOTE fight with Hashirama long enough to be around to meet and know Obito (especially after his turn) yet not be openly involved in Konoha and die before now so Kabuto could resurrect him and yet not recognize any of the Kage's beyond the old fart.

I can't even say I'm ready for that explanation. I couldn't imagine that the chapters would get any more looney toon like than say, chapter 599, but this chapter, well, it manages to top that. Kishi's on a roll here, and I'm afraid he's not going to pull anymore punches. I guess we'll have to embrace the full absurdity that is Naruto until its conclusion.

minato uchiha · 09-05-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjalostboy95

Translate what? You can't understand English?

It would seem so

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-05-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reesaroni

I was asking more of your thoughts on it not the way kishi will take it. I probably should have said should he die, but I didn't.

That's like asking my thoughts on what 2+2 is are.

kael03 · 09-05-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

That's like asking my thoughts on what 2+2 is are.

What are your thoughts on what 2+2 is?

You asked for it.

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-05-2012, 04:24 PM

42

stupid 10 chars

AOTKorby · 09-05-2012, 05:01 PM

Wait a goddamn minute. Did KYF just admit to Tobi being Obito? Holy living fuck. Please don't take this as any kind of insult, man. Just...a bit pleasantly surprised.

Myth · 09-05-2012, 05:07 PM

After read mangastreams version which is always accurate and makes sense it seems he says "wheather "I" survived or not doesn't matter" whats he mean by that and then he said "if i had to say why, THEN it would have to be because u let rin die" again why is he said if why not give a definite answer and are those really scars they looks more like pruned up skin i still wouldn't be surprised if madara fused part of himself with this kid and knows his memories, and is just mind fucking kakashi.

The next few chapters should be good of as lkng as kishi stops these gaiden arc flash backs

emachina · 09-05-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha

Ok, translations please! And please make it better than Kishi's so called shit writing

Well, at least you're not asking for much. Okay, 1) You said unlike KYF you would not stay quiet. KYF never stays quiet. Like him or not, he sticks to his prediction. Often times meticulously picking apart replies to him and arguing his case. Hence, why you believe he stays quiet flabbergasted me. And 2) you said you would not let others clown you. I assured you, that I would not clown you you were already doing that to yourself by defending the previous two chapters Kishi has released.

09-05-2012, 01:52 PM	#91
jericho Uzimaki ANBU Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,609 Thanks: 1,846 Thanked 1,549 Times in 500 Posts	Re: Naruto_600 I will say it again Kakashi asked him why he didn't come back to the village, the answer given was .... Cause Rin died. Now if he asked "why have you become evil and want to do all these things?" then THAT would be be different. Basically I got out of that he didn't come back because he felt nothing was there for him. So eventually he ran into Mr. bad Influence Uchiha over there and the rest is a secret history Kishi probably won't have the time to go into completely. Now the loop holes will hopefully be filled far as When was it Obito and when was it Madara? My guess it was only Obito when he surfaced with Akatski, replacing Orochimaru(so to speak). How he used his jutsu years before now i don't know. __________________ Gamble Joshua the Rogue Transformers:Generations For NaruHina fans First Orange knuckle head ninja The Question

09-05-2012, 03:18 PM	#95
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,056 Thanks: 888 Thanked 4,449 Times in 1,550 Posts	Re: Naruto_600 I'm still amazed here... Obito was a cheesy, annoying dweeb but still a somewhat admirable character (at least his fatal, selfless act)... I fail to see how this complete 180 can even be rationally justified. Kishi's like literally holding character at gun point right now, popping shots at Obito's face. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

09-05-2012, 03:23 PM	#96
ACt Heart Wizard Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Halls of Irreverence Posts: 3,257 Thanks: 5,326 Thanked 18,707 Times in 4,853 Posts	Re: Naruto_600 What amazes me more is that Madara knows who he is. Somehow, Madara survived VOTE fight with Hashirama long enough to be around to meet and know Obito (especially after his turn) yet not be openly involved in Konoha and die before now so Kabuto could resurrect him and yet not recognize any of the Kage's beyond the old fart. __________________ It's amazing to me that, unlike in the real world, people on the internet will wear "everyone thinks I'm a moron" as a badge of honour.

09-05-2012, 05:07 PM	#104
Myth Kage Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,112 Thanks: 379 Thanked 2,624 Times in 1,636 Posts	Re: Naruto_600 After read mangastreams version which is always accurate and makes sense it seems he says "wheather "I" survived or not doesn't matter" whats he mean by that and then he said "if i had to say why, THEN it would have to be because u let rin die" again why is he said if why not give a definite answer and are those really scars they looks more like pruned up skin i still wouldn't be surprised if madara fused part of himself with this kid and knows his memories, and is just mind fucking kakashi. The next few chapters should be good of as lkng as kishi stops these gaiden arc flash backs

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