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Old 09-26-2012, 04:15 AM   #31
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Yeah I know, I was saying IF the spiral Zetsu who seems different from the others, could mimic its host's abilities. Especially since, unlike the others, Obito is actually wearing it as a suit, rather than using their parts or having his chakra copied.

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Old 09-26-2012, 04:25 AM   #32
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Yeah I know, I was saying IF the spiral Zetsu who seems different from the others, could mimic its host's abilities. Especially since, unlike the others, Obito is actually wearing it as a suit, rather than using their parts or having his chakra copied.
well your post said copy time space jutsu or jutsu which none of the Zetsu have that capability even IF when the manga has stated NO..but i gotya

so you're saying like Venom, Zetsu just attached himself to Obito....I already said that maybe they did fuse together and I also stated that could be why he seemed like he had split personality. So I could somewhat agree there...but as far as mimicking shinobi's jutsu..none of the zetsu or capable of that.

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Old 09-26-2012, 04:33 AM   #33
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I really hate to keep nit-picking, but Minato said the seal on the blade alerted him when it flies. He didn't explain the FTG just that it alerts him.
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Kishi once again shows how good he is at writing comedy.
It was toilet humor. And even Oda's toilet humor isn't as blatantly unfunny.

Well this chapter was a waste. Pretty much confirmed what we knew since Madara revealed he worked with Tobi that there's only one Tobi and where Obito got his inspiration for his goody persona. Could be done in much less pages and end the chapter with Rin dying to actually justify the existence of this chapter. C'mon, Kishi, hurry up with the damn flashback.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:34 AM   #35
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I really hate to keep nit-picking, but Minato said the seal on the blade alerted him when it flies. He didn't explain the FTG just that it alerts him.
He also said that after Obito was crushed.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:36 AM   #36
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So kishi tried to explain some shit, I don't really like it, but at least it can work somehow to explain some stuff.

I'm not entirely sire what the convo is about up there, but perhaps tobi will learn more about ftg during this incident.

@Kael, are you basing the less than a year solely on ages or are you involving birthdays as well? Or other stuff (too)?
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:38 AM   #37
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well your post said copy time space jutsu or jutsu which none of the Zetsu have that capability even IF when the manga has stated NO..but i gotya

so you're saying like Venom, Zetsu just attached himself to Obito....I already said that maybe they did fuse together and I also stated that could be why he seemed like he had split personality. So I could somewhat agree there...but as far as mimicking shinobi's jutsu..none of the zetsu or capable of that.
Yeah sorry, my post wasn't very clear and I didn't realise you made the Venom link as well. For me, it seems that the spiral Zetsu is somewhat fond of Obito and its also a newbie compared to the others. The previous chapter showed the spiral Zetsu just after he was created. So imagine such a being growing and being as one with his host.

With Zetsu's ability to copy a person's exact chakra after just a few seconds of touch, imagine what years could do, wearing it as a suit. I have scant little proof of this but I have a feeling that is going to have some bearing on why Obito has used kamui for years without any side effects.

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Old 09-26-2012, 04:39 AM   #38
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Lol I hear you bro I am at work dying as we speak..we just agree to disagree at this point...For me after reviewing it, it does seem Obito was prepared for FTG 1. He thought increasing his suction would guarantee him victory..but he was not aware of FTG2 which is the reason he lost..
And he fled knowing that minato had marked him making the battle his own
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:44 AM   #39
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He also said that after Obito was crushed.
That's what I was referring to, did he also say it during the Tobi v Minato fight?
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@Kael, are you basing the less than a year solely on ages or are you involving birthdays as well? Or other stuff (too)?
Ages, birthdays, and small assumptions. Kakashi was 13 when he became a Jounin, but it wasn't stated to be on his birthday (that's the small assumption), and his birthday is in September. Naruto was born 12 years before the start of the series, when Kakashi was 26. That puts Kakashi at 14 and 1 month, as Naruto's birthday is in October. The small assumption is that Kakashi was promoted to Jounin within a couple months of his birthday. But even if it was on his birthday, the timeline is only 1 year 1 month between Obito being crushed and his attacking the village.


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That's what I was referring to, did he also say it during the Tobi v Minato fight?
Minato didn't really say much during their fight. At least, not out loud.

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Yeah sorry, my post wasn't very clear and I didn't realise you made the Venom link as well. For me, it seems that the spiral Zetsu is somewhat fond of Obito and its also a newbie compared to the others. The previous chapter showed the spiral Zetsu just after he was created. So imagine such a being growing and being as one with his host.

With Zetsu's ability to copy a person's exact chakra after just a few seconds of touch, imagine what years could do, wearing it as a suit. I have scant little proof of this but I have a feeling that is going to have some bearing on why Obito has used kamui for years without any side effects.
This is something Kishi needs to clear up...it was hinted with Madara that Obito used Kamui to phase through the boulders. If this is the case Obito can use Kamui in his basic SG form, thus not making him go blind...People can say it was because Kishi was keeping his identity secret. I don't agree...I personally believe Kamui has different levels which we know just from Kakashi's Kamui and Obito's....
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Minato didn't really say much during their fight. At least, not out loud.
Okay, wasn't your original point that no one knew about FTG, even Kakashi till he explained after Obito death, but he didn't really explain FTG to him.

What it seems like to me still is that they did in fact know about it. Only reason A had to figure it out is because he was from the cloud.
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This is something Kishi needs to clear up...it was hinted with Madara that Obito used Kamui to phase through the boulders. If this is the case Obito can use Kamui in his basic SG form, thus not making him go blind...People can say it was because Kishi was keeping his identity secret. I don't agree...I personally believe Kamui has different levels which we know just from Kakashi's Kamui and Obito's....
Hmmm, that's a good one and very possible. I also thought about the basic sharingan performing kamui but never thought about kamui having levels. Yeah that certainly would be interesting and Kishi does need to clear that up, amongst other things, lol.

Kamui just seems to be at odds with the rules and side effects of Ms. Even Madara thought it was a miracle how Obito survived and 'phased through' the rocks.
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My original point was that Obito didn't know about FTG, since he stilled called it Shunshin during his attack on Konoha. Rin, even seeing it in person, didn't know about FTG, and called it Shunshin. Minato's underlings didn't know the workings of FTG, only that Minato was extremely fast/powerful and didn't question the order to throw the kunai into the enemy group.

The only people that knew it, for sure, in the interim period between the Gaiden and the attack, were Minato, Kushina, the 3 Kage guards (since they were taught it), and A. A only figured it out because he noticed that Minato would appear next to a kunai when he teleported.
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Okay, wasn't your original point that no one knew about FTG, even Kakashi till he explained after Obito death, but he didn't really explain FTG to him.

What it seems like to me still is that they did in fact know about it. Only reason A had to figure it out is because he was from the cloud.

Also A could figure it out because the fight was different. It was A's speed vs what he figured out was jumping (teleporting to Kunai). Also Minato's tactic pretty much explained the jutsu after seeing it once. He threw markers everywhere and jumped from them. Anyone could predict or at least understand that. Minato barely threw Kunai vs Tobi. At many points he barely had the chance to. A's basic speed is better than Minato's but with Minato's FTG, Minato was untouchable...
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