Myth

you're assuming aizen would be dumb enough to stick around while yama's power takes out everything. its a tricky situation if yama himself could be consumed by his own power then aizen wins since yama would obviously reveal this fact as he's pretty much revealed his entire power the last few chapters.

furthermore we don't know what aizens bankai could do to say he'd still lose to yama is ludicrous. what if his bankia were to grant him full control of the other person broken power yes but still doable.

but i'll agree right now from everything we've seen there is no way for aizen to beat yamamoto simply cause he cannot hit him when yama goes bankai.

k-lai

This begs a question though, if yama supposedly hasn't shown his bankai for about 1000 yrs and he def loves fighting but his vice(the guy that died) who doesn't love fighting even to the extent of not showing his bankai at all. How then did they quincys analyse his bankai in order to steal it? plot hole anyone

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Vengeance

Anyone else thinking Juha Bach isn't even a name at all but rather a title given to the "current" leader of the Quincy? I mean it seems rather odd for this to simply be some sort of clone & transformation jutsu since Yamamoto clearly knows this dude. What if Buck Beard is no longer the Juha Bach but Yamamoto is simply assuming that he is?

The first person who comes to mind is Ishida Ryuken. I mean this dude apparently abandoned his role as Quincy yet has been shown to have tremendous power surpassing the likes of Uryu who was stated to be above the average Sternridder. What if abandoning his duty only related to hunting hollow? We see that the Quincy were using hollow it would be counter productive to kill off potential soldiers if you're ploting an invasion. Anyway just some things to think about.

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Reesaroni

I wasn't exactly thinking that but I was wondering how the fuck Yamamoto wouldn't be able to figure out that it's a clone or some shit. As old and powerful as he is he should be able to pick up if it's not he real deal.

Then again I would think that he would know Juha Bach is a title

Vengeance

No one is saying Yamamoto isn't aware that Juha Bach is a title. What I'm saying is Yamamoto is assuming that Buck Beard still is the Juha Bach. Meaning 1000 years ago Buck Beard was in fact the Juha Bach but in present day he no longer is. Think Naruto & how Tsunade is referred to as Hokage instead of Tsunade. Her name is Tsunade but her title is Hokage. So people naturally refer to her as the Hokage. Same rule applies with Juha Bach.

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NeoKakarott023

Perhaps Yama's judging of the situation is incorrect, and he will get his shit stolen. Additionally think it, since the end of the Arrancar Arc and Aizen, the stupid Fullbringers came and at the end when SS Crew came, EVERYBODY had supposedly gotten stronger trying to get up to where Aizen was, or thats the assumption that was put out by Kubo. So with the upgrades and changes over time, how could ANY Quincy, know and keep up with shingami status'. Since Juha Bach's last sighting, 1000 years how many NEW shingami has appeared since then, and how could anyone have that data?

I get what your saying Veng, Juha Bach is Juha Bach, just not THE Boss as suspected. Only A boss.
That being the case he still had to be some kind of monster for taking out Ken so quick like that, but... HIS FIELD SPELL FUCKING SUCKED KANGAROO DICK, HIS LIGHTNENG GOD EITHER WAS OUT TO LUNCH, OR DIDN'T PAY HIS POWER BILL.

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Reesaroni

Veng - I get ya and honestly that would be loads better than clone/whatever theory in my opinion

Vishnu

It would be better for Juha Bach to be just a title. But i think that Reesaroni nailed this one. Most likely the guy that got pwned is a mere clone, sent to discover Yama's Bankai. That way they can steal it, if they know the full power of it.

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4 pages of discussion after a bleach chapter?AMA - ZING

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jekyl_hyde

It's because Kubo still has a better quality manga than Kishi's Naruto... for now.




Can't remember if it was kael or aotkorby that said Kubo was the biggest troll. That title belongs to Kishi right now.

Vengeance

If it's a clone that means the entire fight was pointless. It also means that Kenpachi was beat by a fucking clone. Comeon son, really now I mean really. Leave the shadow clones & transformation jutsu where they belong; in Naruto. Kubo has been on his A game this arc. To pull some dumb shit like herpderp you defeated my shadow would drop him back down to a C-.

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Reesaroni

If veng's title theory comes true the new leader must be a fucking boss.

Vishnu

I agree with you. It would be fucked up to reveal him as some kind of clone. Then again, Kishi could fuck up Kubo's brain.

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Witchking

I'm really enjoying this arc. It's nice to see the captains getting owned and no ichigo in sight.

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k-lai

Oh he's in sight alright, just doing a bit dramatization

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