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Old 10-03-2012, 03:50 PM   #61
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Wonder if there is any significance to us being shown that Obito was able to see through Kakashis sharingan. Either way next week should pick up after a few lack luster chapters in a row.
If this were a quality author, I would love to see how this angle draws out. But since it is Kishimoto, *sighs* fuck it.

Like I said, the only saving grace for this manga is that Kishi has trolled us all along, and someone like Shisui is plaguing everyone, and Naruto and/or Sasuke kill the motherfucker.
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Lol, so for all the shit that Itachi, Sasuke, and others got, Kakashi is actually a Murderer. No different than Orochimaru.

Actually I get it, he was attempting to wake Rin up from genjutsu, roflmao.
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Still though, there is no explanation as to how tobi or obito knew about minato, the konaha barrier, jinks seals weak at birth and how the third uses his anbu personally... or how he learned so many seals and how to use them so well like a uzumaki, not a senju...
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Still though, there is no explanation as to how tobi or obito knew about minato
1. Obito knew about Minato and his abilities by spying on him during missions or relied on Zetsu to record the battles Minato was in so that he could find out about his abilities.

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2. The Konoha barrier is of no use when he can literally teleport past the barrier without detection.

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3. Obviously because Madara Uchiha told him about the jink's seal's weakness at birth and Madara is well aware of the Uzumaki clan.

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and how the third uses his anbu personally
4. Again, Zetsu spying and gathering information.

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or how he learned so many seals and how to use them so well like a uzumaki, not a senju...
5. That one confused me so I won't answer that one.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #64
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Well, we can assume that:



1. Obito knew about Minato and his abilities by spying on him during missions or relied on Zetsu to record the battles Minato was in so that he could find out about his abilities.



2. The Konoha barrier is of no use when he can literally teleport past the barrier without detection.



3. Obviously because Madara Uchiha told him about the jink's seal's weakness at birth and Madara is well aware of the Uzumaki clan.



4. Again, Zetsu spying and gathering information.



5. That one confused me so I won't answer that one.
NOOOOOO...whyd you reply to him? Everyone was ignoring him till now :/
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Re: /Naruto 604\

he opened up pandoras box replying to kyf. Anyways there are a couple times that obito could have been caught into a genjutsu. what i noticed was zetsu was lying. zetsu only knows of kakashi and rin because of obito shouting their names in his sleep. thats why when obito said where is minato sensei zetsu has no clue who he is. only when obito said the yellow flash did zetsu stumble then say he was somewhere else busy with a mission. zetsu also said the are connected which means he could have easily caught obito in a genjutsu without him noticing.
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he opened up pandoras box replying to kyf. Anyways there are a couple times that obito could have been caught into a genjutsu. what i noticed was zetsu was lying. zetsu only knows of kakashi and rin because of obito shouting their names in his sleep. thats why when obito said where is minato sensei zetsu has no clue who he is. only when obito said the yellow flash did zetsu stumble then say he was somewhere else busy with a mission. zetsu also said the are connected which means he could have easily caught obito in a genjutsu without him noticing.
Thus eventually everyone including Tobi/Obito will be vs. Madara on his own. I know Oro will go out in a blaze of glory attempting to get some.
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Re: /Naruto 604\

Lol well he hasn't replied yet. Besides, I replied cuz it's entertaining.
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It should embarras Kishi though the way Obito is, YET this is the same Dude that ran the Akatsuki, and gave Sasuke some legitmate knowledge and direction... I just can't ever forget that dumb shit....

You let Rin die!!!!


Looks more like he merc'd da bitch. Prolly said some dumb shit he didn't want to hear, or gave him cold food.

Kakashi: 'I attempted to Bitch Slap the Whore, but she WAS a ninja, they don't go out like that, had ta kill the Skank, Bito'
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It should embarras Kishi though the way Obito is, YET this is the same Dude that ran the Akatsuki, and gave Sasuke some legitmate knowledge and direction... I just can't ever forget that dumb shit....

You let Rin die!!!!
Seriously...

The guy that had Pain at his beck and call and controlled Sasuke through hatred, is nothing more than a slave to his emotional teenage buffoonery-which provides a leeway for Madara to exploit him to his heart's desire.

Obito's a bigger sap than any one of the people he controlled as a pawn.
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he opened up pandoras box replying to kyf. Anyways there are a couple times that obito could have been caught into a genjutsu. what i noticed was zetsu was lying. zetsu only knows of kakashi and rin because of obito shouting their names in his sleep. thats why when obito said where is minato sensei zetsu has no clue who he is. only when obito said the yellow flash did zetsu stumble then say he was somewhere else busy with a mission. zetsu also said the are connected which means he could have easily caught obito in a genjutsu without him noticing.
Doesn't even have to be a genjutsu, just two clones and one piercing the other.

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Kakashi did it for the Mangekyou!!
At first I thought this was retarded but now that I think about it he may have done it to attempt a MS the only problem is that we don't know if he knew about the way to achieve MS at that point in time. We can always go with "It was an accident."

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The guy that had Pain at his beck and call and controlled Sasuke through hatred, is nothing more than a slave to his emotional teenage buffoonery-which provides a leeway for Madara to exploit him to his heart's desire.

Obito's a bigger sap than any one of the people he controlled as a pawn.
You're thinking small, simply looking at the motivation for being bad instead of the the actual end game.

Pain's plan: Drop Juubi-level Tailed Beast Bombs on any country that steps out of line.
Sasuke's plan: Wipe out all of Konoha.
Obito: Force the universe into peace through genjutsu.

With what Obito wants, he's hardly an emotional sap. Did Rin dying drive him back to Madara? Yes, because like Nagato, it made him realize his idealistic view doesn't work in this world. Outside of his bitch fit the day Naruto was born, he only employed methods that harmed non-Jinks when the Kages wouldn't peacefully accept his proposal. That's hardly the "everyone needs to suffer because I'm unhappy" approach from the other two.
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You're thinking small, simply looking at the motivation for being bad instead of the the actual end game.

Pain's plan: Drop Juubi-level Tailed Beast Bombs on any country that steps out of line.
Sasuke's plan: Wipe out all of Konoha.
Obito: Force the universe into peace through genjutsu.

With what Obito wants, he's hardly an emotional sap. Did Rin dying drive him back to Madara? Yes, because like Nagato, it made him realize his idealistic view doesn't work in this world. Outside of his bitch fit the day Naruto was born, he only employed methods that harmed non-Jinks when the Kages wouldn't peacefully accept his proposal. That's hardly the "everyone needs to suffer because I'm unhappy" approach from the other two.


Did you even read properly what TSO (and Neokakkarot before him) wrote? They're talking about the basal motivation, not the goal based upon such motivation, so only talking about the goal is completely missing the point. And, unless Kishi has a sudden case of decency, Obito wants to enslave the world due to teenager angst. So yeah, there's nothing as of now that puts Obito as a character above Sasuke or Nagato.
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Did you even read properly what TSO (and Neokakkarot before him) wrote? They're talking about the basal motivation, not the goal based upon such motivation, so only talking about the goal is completely missing the point. And, unless Kishi has a sudden case of decency, Obito wants to enslave the world due to teenager angst. So yeah, there's nothing as of now that puts Obito as a character above Sasuke or Nagato.
Although, teenage angst is keeping in line with the Uchiha's tendancy to overreact. Not that I'm defending this stupidity, but you have to credit Kishi for keeping true to the Uchiha mentality.
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To those bitching about Obito being holding onto teenage emotions and horomones and what-not....



It's the power of YOUTH!!!!








I hope everyone understands the sarcasm in this post.
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At first I thought this was retarded but now that I think about it he may have done it to attempt a MS the only problem is that we don't know if he knew about the way to achieve MS at that point in time. We can always go with "It was an accident."
Well i wasn't being serious.. And just after learning the value of teamwork over rules (which then basically shapes his mentality), kakashi killing off his friend for more power would simply be too idiotic.
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