Naruto_605 - Page 4

Vengeance · 10-10-2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AniMeFaN

If they were able to experiment on her and manipulate her and thats why he killed her then yea he would have a reason to kill himself rather then leave himself for capture to be put through the same thing as Rin. Its alright to be wrong, that isnt the reason. Not a big deal.

& how would Kakashi have foreknowledge on what was done to Rin without first examining her body dumbass? O yeah he wouldn't you can STFU now.

PS: Kakashi isn't some emo bitch he'd go down fighting like a man. Like I said the only reason he even fainted was because of the awakening of his MS which is something Kakashi couldn't have anticipated.

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Originally Posted by AniMeFaN

There is a different reason they wanted her body, whether she was a spy or something special about it, but your reason is not it.

So keeping whatever method they used to control Rin a secret so they can continue to use it in the future isn't a good reason? You sound really stupid right now you know that right?

apacolypz · 10-10-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Actually it is far fetched given how incompetent Rin is shown to be time & time again.

Itachi was seven when he graduated from the academy. You're trying to compare Rin to Itachi now?

Considering the fact that Kabuto needed to be trained first & didn't graduate from the academy till he was ten I'd say he didn't start doing spy missions until he was at least ten.

Age has everything to do with this considering the fact that Rin could have been as young as five when she was sent on this so called mission. Pretty much dwarfs every other young age mentioned in the entire manga. Rin simply doesn't seem capable of doing this.

This is Kishi isn't an excuse. It quite simply doesn't fit into anything we've been shown of Rin. The girl was shown getting pumped for intel by rock ninja. Pretty piss poor spy if she can't even hold secrets.

If she wasn't in control of herself & threatened the safety of Konoha yes he would kill her. The only reason Kakashi even fainted was because his MS awakened. Kakashi had no reason to kill himself reject.

No I am not comparing her to Itachi..come on son why would I even "try" to do that......Rin isn't much in the manga...her existence was solely for Kakashi's character..you are going too far in the double agent scenario...I am not saying she was sent from age five or six...btw where are you getting this age from?? I never said five or six...she could of been a spy for a minute...what I am saying either way.. torture, brainwashing...she would still betray her comrades..she would still give up the intel...they could of placed a genjutsu on her and she could of continued to live and work alongside Konoah nins unaware of the jutsu...actively being a double agent...similar to what Sasori did with Kabuto....

Pritha · 10-10-2012, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

It just doesn't make sense for kakashi to awaken the MS there at 14 then not be able to use it for another 16 years because he doesn't have enough chakra to use it...
Every other person who awakened the MS was able to use right after they awakened it... So then what other explanation is there for kakashi's not using the MS for 16 more years??? He himself not awakening it, thus not able to use it is the only explanation I can thin of right now...
Not until 16 years later when he awakened the jutsu by training his chakra which is what the DB#3 said... It is invoked through training of ones chakra...

Prob he did not know abt his MS and maybe he found out after his encounter with itachi's tsukyomi, some kind of trigger

but my question is , when did leaf start sending out a two man mission that too a young jounin and a medic alone?

and just as a note we can see in page nine that his phasing is ctrled by MS and not a simple sharingan

AniMeFaN · 10-10-2012, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

& how would Kakashi have foreknowledge on what was done to Rin without first examining her body dumbass? O yeah he wouldn't you can STFU now.

PS: Kakashi isn't some emo bitch he'd go down fighting like a man. Like I said the only reason he even fainted was because of the awakening of his MS which is something Kakashi couldn't have anticipated.

Im not going to argue anymore, you arent the type to admit you are wrong. You will make up some excuse in a week why it doesnt make sense and isnt plausible. Your reason isnt right though. She was spy or something was special about her body. Book it.

Vengeance · 10-10-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by apacolypz

No I am not comparing her to Itachi..come on son why would I even "try" to do that......Rin isn't much in the manga...her existence was solely for Kakashi's character..you are going too far in the double agent scenario...I am not saying she was sent from age five or six...btw where are you getting this age from?? I never said five or six...

Because Rin, Kakashi, & Obito are all the same age while Rin was in the ninja academy with Kakashi who graduated at the age of five. Simple math dude.

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Originally Posted by apacolypz

she could of been a spy for a minute...what I am saying either way.. torture, brainwashing...she would still betray her comrades..she would still give up the intel...they could of placed a genjutsu on her and she could of continued to live and work alongside Konoah nins unaware of the jutsu...actively being a double agent...similar to what Sasori did with Kabuto....

Which is what I'm saying. My point is at some point she was manipulated in some way by the mist however she is originally a Konoha shinobi. Saying that she's some uber baby mist spy at the age of five is utterly ridiculous.

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Im not going to argue anymore,

Then don't respond to my post dipshit.

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you arent the type to admit you are wrong..

Actually I admit when I'm wrong all the time. This only started because you felt the need to respond to my post. Don't like what I have to say then don't fucking respond.

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Originally Posted by AniMeFaN

You will make up some excuse in a week why it doesnt make sense and isnt plausible. Your reason isnt right though. She was spy or something was special about her body. Book it.

So uber five year old baby spy makes total sense riiiight? LMAO

apacolypz · 10-10-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Because Rin, Kakashi, & Obito are all the same age while Rin was in the ninja academy with Kakashi who graduated at the age of five. Simple math dude.

Which is what I'm saying. My point is at some point she was manipulated in some way by the mist however she is originally a Konoha shinobi. Saying that she's some uber baby spy at the age of five is utterly ridiculous.

I never said she was some uber baby spy...I understood the math, just trying to cope with your focus on five or six..when now she isn't near that age.....So we agree with one another then.....

Emissary of Justice · 10-10-2012, 03:21 AM

Where the hell has THIS Obito been?!

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

So apparently they were Mist ninja & did something to Rin's body? I'm thinking Obito was manipulating Tobi's body to use the mokuton.

Or his own body. Madara stated that the portion of his body which had been smashed was replaced with Hashirama's cells.

Seeing as it should only be on his right side, that doesn't explain this panel at all: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-55672-4...apter-503.html

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

PS: Kakashi isn't some emo bitch he'd go down fighting like a man. Like I said the only reason he even fainted was because of the awakening of his MS which is something Kakashi couldn't have anticipated.

He fainted in the final battle of Kakashi Gaiden as well. It was likely due to chakra use and exhaustion, same as then.

Vengeance · 10-10-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

Where the hell has THIS Obito been?!

Or his own body. Madara stated that the portion of his body which had been smashed was replaced with Hashirama's cells.

Yet Obito is never shown using mokuton like ever. Mind you when I say manipulated Tobi's body I'm referring to the Guyver suit.

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

Seeing as it should only be on his right side, that doesn't explain this panel at all: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-55672-4...apter-503.html

What does this image have to do with anything I just said?

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

He fainted in the final battle of Kakashi Gaiden as well. It was likely due to chakra use and exhaustion, same as then.

Exhaustion caused by awakening MS. Anyway point stands Kakashi would go down fighting rather than commit suicide.

Dagoro · 10-10-2012, 03:56 AM

I'm not impressed.

The action gets overridden by the fact that this kid is going bananas over this girl who didn't even know he liked her, and they were fucking 12 or some shit. This is why a lack of build up is fatal, it really robs these situations of the emotional charge they could have had.

UzumakiMat · 10-10-2012, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

It just doesn't make sense for kakashi to awaken the MS there at 14 then not be able to use it for another 16 years because he doesn't have enough chakra to use it...
Every other person who awakened the MS was able to use right after they awakened it... So then what other explanation is there for kakashi's not using the MS for 16 more years??? He himself not awakening it, thus not able to use it is the only explanation I can thin of right now...
Not until 16 years later when he awakened the jutsu by training his chakra which is what the DB#3 said... It is invoked through training of ones chakra...

Easy enough answer... he's not a bloody Uchiha...

Numinous · 10-10-2012, 04:43 AM

I'm torn on this chapter. It's one of the best chapters as of late, from the gory visuals to the rawness of the screams... but it just crumbles under its premise. Why the fuck does Obito go nuts over Kakashi killing Rin and doesn't even target him? I know it could verge the plot hole by making Kakashi know of Tobi before time, but we got nonsense replacing said hole. And, not surprisingly, Kishi didn't think all the way through. Why not use Mokuton against Minato? Plot convenience much?

Oh and hi, KYF and Animefan, fun to see you guys on a contest to see who is the worst at reading comprehension. Well, I think KYF is winning because he can't even pay attention to what the manga already explained, rather opting for his delusional crack theories.

Emissary of Justice · 10-10-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Yet Obito is never shown using mokuton like ever. Mind you when I say manipulated Tobi's body I'm referring to the Guyver suit.

I know what you meant, but the Guyver suit is just a creature made of Hashirama cells, same as Obito's right side (which is the sole side that used Mokuton).

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What does this image have to do with anything I just said?

Just pointing out a possible plot hole.

DRAGONBPY · 10-10-2012, 05:29 AM

@Num can you ans 1 question for me. Did Kakashi unlock his ms or not. I believe he did but KYF has some weird telepathy theory saying it was because Obito unlocked his and Kakashi unlocks his in the time skip between p1 n p2

Vengeance · 10-10-2012, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DRAGONBPY

@Num can you ans 1 question for me. Did Kakashi unlock his ms or not. I believe he did but KYF has some weird telepathy theory saying it was because Obito unlocked his and Kakashi unlocks his in the time skip between p1 n p2

They both unlocked it at the same time. Kakashi from killing Rin & Obito from witnessing her death. There's no telepathy involved in that. Kakashi however most likely wasn't even aware of it until years later. This is not unheard of ether. Sasuke first unlocked his sharingan at the age of seven but didn't utilize it until years later when he was twelve. The urgency of the fight with Haku brought it to the surface however it wasn't the first time his sharingan was actually activated.

DRAGONBPY · 10-10-2012, 05:52 AM

^Atleast you are smart unlike KYF

10-10-2012, 03:56 AM	#54
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,806 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,308 Times in 2,911 Posts	Re: Naruto_605 I'm not impressed. The action gets overridden by the fact that this kid is going bananas over this girl who didn't even know he liked her, and they were fucking 12 or some shit. This is why a lack of build up is fatal, it really robs these situations of the emotional charge they could have had. __________________

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Numinous Writing speed: snail Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Porto, Portugal Posts: 4,998 Thanks: 8,692 Thanked 11,771 Times in 4,072 Posts	Re: Naruto_605 I'm torn on this chapter. It's one of the best chapters as of late, from the gory visuals to the rawness of the screams... but it just crumbles under its premise. Why the fuck does Obito go nuts over Kakashi killing Rin and doesn't even target him? I know it could verge the plot hole by making Kakashi know of Tobi before time, but we got nonsense replacing said hole. And, not surprisingly, Kishi didn't think all the way through. Why not use Mokuton against Minato? Plot convenience much? Oh and hi, KYF and Animefan, fun to see you guys on a contest to see who is the worst at reading comprehension. Well, I think KYF is winning because he can't even pay attention to what the manga already explained, rather opting for his delusional crack theories. __________________ My writings: Waters of Ocean Darkest Chapters: 1 - 2 Weaver Chapters: 0 - 1- 2 - 3 Björk Season My Top 25 Non-Romantic Songs

10-10-2012, 05:29 AM	#58
DRAGONBPY Chuunin Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 552 Thanks: 236 Thanked 264 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Naruto_605 @Num can you ans 1 question for me. Did Kakashi unlock his ms or not. I believe he did but KYF has some weird telepathy theory saying it was because Obito unlocked his and Kakashi unlocks his in the time skip between p1 n p2

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