TheBaron

So... I hate storyfillers like this one. Which was all it was - storyfilling.... Sure, it is interesting and all, but we don't get to see why Kakashi did what he did to Rin, and that irritates me.


This panel could be explained, simply, by the possibility, that when it was scanned, it was reversed. That is quite possible.

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Numinous

Not sure if trolling or not noticing the Kanji in Minato's cloak already don't allow the possibility of the page to be reversed.

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TheBaron

Most definitely not trolling - just don't speak in Kanji.

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ACt

This chapter would be just fine if there were some level of inate ability/knowledge to your ninja magic but after chapters and chapters of ninja school and training, this quick mastery of both the phasing ability of the sharingan and control over the zetzu to use the wood technique just seems... convenient.

Anyway, I'm certain after killing all these ninja, Obito is totally going to tie up Kakashi and wait for him to revive himself so he can get an explanation before he kills him for killing Rin and not do something utterly stupid like flee the scene suspecting that he knows the whole story. Right?

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Vengeance

I just wanted to point one thing out. MS wasn't a concept for the Naruto series until Sasuke's Flashbacks at VOTE. Originally Itachi was using a 3 tomoe sharingan when he used amaterasu & tsukuyomi. When the concept of MS was actually retconed into the series Kakashi was no longer getting spotlight until after the timeskip. Not that it's really important just pointing it out.

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emachina

This whole chapter just proves how retarded this manga has gotten. Tobito is shown to be a raging psychopath who can kick a majority of ass, yet he never does any of this throuhout the manga up until now, which is a flashback. Why the fuck didn't he kidnap Naruto when Naruto and all the side characters ran into him while chasing Sasuke? He could have, nothing would have stopped him. Why has Tobito been shown to be a weak ass pussy for the majority of this manga, getting spanked, thwarted, and even intimidated by Naruto up until this chapter? Why didn't Tobito kill Kakashi then instead of not recognizing him? This shit is so weak I have to ask myself do I keep reading this because I want to see the ending or rather do I read it to see how horrible the train wreck grows each week. Tobito, you're not in hell, we are.

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Dagoro

I wonder if anyone actually gives a shit about Rin. She had as much characterization as a used bathroom towel.

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minato uchiha

For the first time in along while, I am completley baffed by this chapter.

What I don't get:

1. the place where Obito goes that he calls hell.
2. Why Obito was screaming so much in this ****ing chapter?
3. What is so special about Rin and why did the Mist work so hard to get her?
4. Kakashi forgetting he awakened his Ms, 16 years ago.
5. Was Obito a random/chance find by Madara or was he targetted specifically by Madara?

On the Rin question, I have a theory or two. I think Rin could have being working or being manipulated by Madara himself, for whatever reason that is yet unknown. If that's the case, then was it a set up when she got captured by the Rock Ninja's in Kakashi Gaiden? A trap set up by Madara that went wrong somehow.Because we have two instances where because of Rin, Obito awakens his sharingan, then his Ms.

What's so special about Rin? Is she descended from someone special or of interest to Madara? Was she like that boy in the filler episode with Guren, who through experimentations, could control the 3 tails?

I'm just lost boi, scouring other forums for clues. Lol

Vengeance

I know I don't. Kishi could have made this so simple by having Obito kill Rin by mistake. But no he wants to make Kakashi do it creating a shit load of more questions that need an additional 5-10 chapters to explain if he even bothers explaining it at all. Like really now who gives a shit. Now we need to waste even more time explaining the chronicles of Rin in addition to the Obito chronicles. I learned little to nothing from this chapter that I actually wanted to know which is 1) Why attack Konoha & kill your master, 2) Why kill your entire family, 3) Why did he not kill Kakashi. Still no fucking justification what so ever. Get back to the present timeline & kill Obito off already.

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blake

I mean obito did say , You let rin die. Not you killed rin. ( maybe a translation thing). So Im guessing he knows the actual reason why kakashi killed her, and although understands it, blames kakashi for putting her in the situation . ex, he got them trapped there. So Im thinking its the kisame thing all over. Kakashi may have known that weak idiot would blab everything so he killed her, and he himself doesnt care about dying. Or on the other hand, the mist did something to rin's mind

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Wait a second!!! If kakashi gained MS over 10 years ago shouldn't he have been mostly blind before the series even started. And how is it he claimed to only be able to use it after Part 2 started? More plot holes!!!

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Vengeance

When did he claim that? MS wasn't a concept in the manga until the end of part 1.

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krurk

Well using the entire manga as precedent, I am going to say Rin is Uzumaki and they wanted her to control their Bijuu.

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1. Naruto's act 1 was really good

2. Part Two started off alright, it introduced new characters and it continued to show the same potential, honestly, the story had a lot of promise up until the Pain Arc.

3. Pain Arc occurs and all Leaf ninja are revived after they were slaughtered, this started the failing of Kishi because he won't kill off main charcters.

4. Kage Summit was a tad disappointing simply because we didn't see any of the charcters that SHOULD have been introduced during the chuunin exams.

5. The War has been epicly disappointing because Kishi is killing off Edo's in a matter of one chapter when each edo (Kages, Swordsman, Nagato and Itachi) when they should get around 4 or 5 chapters of dedication.

Kishi started cutting the story shorter, his chapters have gotten shorter from 21 pages to 17 per week,

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Vengeance

Ummm so when is it going to be revealed that Madara wiped out the Senju & Uzumaki Clans?

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jekyl_hyde

Ok, I haven't read all the posts... but this is a new low.

When will the plot-holes stop Kishi? Stop bastardizing what was once a pretty good manga.

You have Obito survive a mountain falling on him (presumably through Kamui), yet this is the chapter, which is some time later that you show him gaining access to the MS? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And once again you say, Ah fuck it when it comes to the timeline that you set forth.

I don't know, maybe Kishi is trying to make this manga so horrible so his publishers will stop making him draw the manga out even further.... I don't know.