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Are you saying that I can't expect my due payment after you've used something I copyrighted? That is considered theft. Dont, worry, you can relax. I probably wont do anything about it. Though the authorities probably will after they arrive at where you are, which will happen shortly.
So, ummmm, take care and dont drop the soap!
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09-13-2012, 04:00 PM
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Heres a Mangekyou SG jutsu battle...
Living, Prime Madara/Perfect SASANOO: (The offensive barrier jutsu that takes on the form of the thunder god himself) Vs Tobito/(both)KAMUI: (The ultimate offensive and defensive jutsu there is...) Sasanoo has many different level's but the ultimate version is madara's perfect sasanoo... Offensively: Can use chakra weapons... swords to cut mountains into pieces and the mangatama (sp) necklace to throw as a long range attack... Defensively:Its a barrier jutsu in the shape of the storm god sasanoo... it is just the most powerful barrier there is... there is nothing known that can get through perfect sasanoo's defense.... Meanwhile Kamui has three different version... Version 1). Shifting parts of the body as well as the entire body and other things into the other dimension when the enemy attacks or the user wishes to move through any solid object... Completely defensive... Version 2). Creating a wormhole to completely transfer people and objects into the other dimension unlike version one that can do this, but leaves an illusion of the physical body or objects that were shifted... Offensive:can transfer an enemy to the dimension leaving them to die, or the user so he can use the dimension to move to another place in the naruto dimension..... can even expel weapons and seals for attacks... or even create a vortex to increase a basic fire jutsu exponentially... Defensive:can absorb attacks.... Version 3). mid to long range barrier jutsu that by Creating a barrier in space where ever the user focuses his eye then creating a whole by collapsing space itself on whatever happens to be in the way... drawing it into the hole, into the other dimension... However, this version has no way to get w/e is drawn into the dimension back out like version 2... Offensive: Can sever anything, by collapsing space itself at a single point in space creating a hole... Defensive: can draw in any attack by collapsing space at the point of the attack... Well, IMO, the more powerful is obviously perfect sasanoo which is a huge barrier of materialized chakra from the user while kamui is time space manipulation... However, by means of effectiveness and efficiency... I think Kamui takes it... So if Madara attacks with sasanoo no matter how powerful it means nothing because kamui version 1 will just make the attack go right through him... and because kamui version 3 can be used on w/e tobito focuses on... tobito could just attack madara inside his sasanoo completely bypassing it defenses... Or tobito could simply use version 1 to get inside sasanoo then use version 2 to draw madara into his dimension to live just long enough to regret taking on tobito, the monster of his creation... Either way, I think Kamui is the better jutsu which would allow tobito to beat the top uchiha and perhaps top shinobi since the sage himself (do not give me that "hashirama beat madara" crap because he alone did not... He and his wife beat madara who was just trying to gain hashirama's power... SO if hashirama is so strong then why would he need his wife's help in a fight he can handle himself???)
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09-13-2012, 04:11 PM
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Also about Hashirama and Madara. I think that Mito was there only to have the Kyuubi sealed inside her. I don't think that she assissted in the battle.
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10-20-2012, 09:33 AM
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Im having this argument with some other person on another forum about who was the strongest hokage, hashirama or Hiruzen. His only argument is Hiruzen's nickname of God of Shinobi and an off comment Iruka made in part 1 about him being the strongest. My argument is where that may have been true years ago, kishi has changed alot particularly Hashirama and almost given him god status. What do you guys think?
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10-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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Tell him feats or GTFO.
Madara's mokuton techs can be extended to Hashirama since they are essentially made possible by his genes. That giant forest jutsu that saturates the area with sleeping gas is by itself better than anything Hiruzen did offensively.
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10-20-2012, 01:25 PM
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Madara(alive), Itachi(alive), and current Sasuke.
VS. Hashirama,Minato, and J-Man. Bonus: Naruto(all abilities) Vs. Minato,J-man -Blindfold match- (meaning: no knowledge of their connection; relationship does not sway their efforts)
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10-22-2012, 02:59 PM
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I am also for seeing Chouji get crushed by the Hulk, wings gone within 30 seconds.
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11-14-2012, 11:29 AM
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and Naruto looses to J-man and minato not because of lack of power but because he's a moron and he's dealiong with a genius .. J-man stands back and watches and yells from far off "hey Minato I left and came back with some of kushina's cookies" Minato. cookies you say" warps- Damn these are good telleports while munching on cookie and hits naruto in the face with rasengan
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So what HM said is very likely... Minato, hashirama and Jman Vs Madara, Itachi and sasuke.... IMO, Itachi would fight Jman, while hashirama fights madara and sasuke fights minato... itachi was able to beat Oro in mere seconds so could do the same to Jman who is already weak against ninjutsu... Sasuke will be wrapped in sasanoo to keep from being blitzed with the FTG... Now though that Jman is beaten, itachi teams up with sasuke to fight minato... Minato makes the mistake of coming in contact with itachi which allows him to set up Izanami so once minato attacks again, he is caught... But because of the person minato is, he will not be held by Izanami for very long... Leaving the three top uchiha to fight hashirama alone... Hashirama is overwhelm and loses while minaot snaps out of Izanami realizing how to break out by accepting his true self and power... Minato realizing he is alone is smart and escapes using the FTG and lives to fight another day... Team Uchiha win... Next: Naruto vs Minato and Jman... nobody knows each other... Naruto uses his kyuubi power which lets minato know he uses a jink seal, by coincidence, it is a seal of his own creation... Minato uses his speed and seal skills to nunbalance the seal on naruto by placing an extra seal to stop the use of the kyuubi's power and unbalance all of naruto's chakra... Now naruto cannot even use SM and loses easliy to only minato.... Jman was too busy perving on chicks....
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So no Senju DNA or endless chakra. Vision and illness are still a factor. #1. Madara has admitted Hashi was the only one that can beat him. Nuff Said. #2. Itachi has already admitted J-man's power, keep in mind the Sanin were the most powerful in the village for generations. Obvious Kage choices, remember, except Oro. #3. Minato wouldn't allow an Uchiha too gain any Genjutsu advantage. Sasuke isn't used to someone being that fast and smart. Keep in mind all three of these Ninja are well educated on Uchiha. Hashi has fought and defeated the most sinister and powerful before. J-man had full knowledge of Itachi's capabilities but showed no fear in fighting him and Kisame at the same time. Where Kakashi in Part I rather not fight Itachi at all. Minato was a genius he was considered the best in the village Uchiha clan included. Naruto versus the father and Godfather. Yeah he would lose because they would both figure he is Uber powerful and they should end it quick. I just don't think it would be so easy. He has Mastered Sage mode and Kurama mode. Naruto is an excellent tactician, even better when he is fighting solo. RESULTS: 1st fight Hashi. 2nd fight draw OR J-man, due to the blindness of Itachi. 3rd fight Minato.
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Yet hashirama with madara not trying to kill him and assistance from his wife, madara was still only wounded... And madara has clearly never used perfect sasanoo on hashirama because he said once perfect sasanoo is used, it is certain death... That would not be the case if hashirama survived many altercations with perfect sasanoo... Clearly hashirama vs perfect sasanoo madara is a whole other story seeing as how hashirama neede dhis wife's help tp stop kurama, but perfect sasanoo surpasses the bijuu so what will hashirama do against perfect sasanoo without his wife's help if he could not even stop the kyuubi on his own??? Hashirama is overrated as usual... Madara uses perfect sasanoo to overwhelm hashirama and win... #2). Jman v Itachi... It is not even a match... Jman is so weak against genjutsu and itachi was able to beat Oro in mere seconds... meanwhile JMan has been trying to stop Oro half his life... Jman just has no way to avoid amaterasu, stop tsukuyomi that can leave him comatose in an INSTANT or stop itachi's super sasanoo with spiritual equipment... Much less a Kage bushin, karasu bushin combo with his jutsu and physical speed... Even in SM Jman has to rely on frog's to gather his Natural energy meaning itachi could control either with genjutsu to disrupt that... You cannot rely on itachi's comment about Jman being a match that would cost his life if they fought... Itachi was a double agent who was working for konaha and thus would never want to harm one of his own allies so itachi bluffed to kisame about Jman's power... Itachi has proven time and time again that he is beyond seenin level... Being able to beat Oro and Deidara in mere seconds... Even beating kakashi while tyring not to hurt him and kakashi was able to compete with kakuzu and his immortal buddy at once... Itachi is just on another level from Jman and the rest of the seenin... Just look at what itachi did to kabuto, the one who surpassed Oro... He basically soloed him while protecting sasuke and trying not to kill kabuto... Itachi is just too much for anyone other then shinobi of madara, hashirama, full kyuubi naruto, EMS sasuke, obito and nagato's level #3). Sasuke Vs Minato... Sasuke knows of minato's reputation with speed... With the SG, Sasuke will be able to read enough of minato's movements to pull up sasanoo to keep from being blizted by the FTG... And with sasanoo up, likely perfect sasanoo if he can power it up to it's perfect form... Minato has no way to get inside sasanoo... So sasuke's best chance is to use Izanami by making physical contact or waiting for itachi to fight with him so he can use Izanami to stop Minato so he can be hit with a physical attack or tsukuyomi... Either way, team uchiha Win... minato is their best chance though because he could FTG jman or hashirama to for combo attacks... But, with so many sasanoo's... The speed advantage is just nullified.... as well as the power advantage due to the super defense of sasanoo... So they are left with physical attacks they cannot land thus lose this match..
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Harashirma's healing factor, Wood Dragon Summons (to supress Naruto, on his own he woulda been toast, KB and others assisted), sheer power, and most of his shits unknown, just the major stuff. Nobody knows what weapon he was proficient in, what additional jutsu's he knew (hell Tsunade has a lightening jutsu, who woulda thunk of that, so who knows). I don't think until the whole battle is shown (and its been hinted to so long Kishi has to show it eventually), no one has a clue of the entirety of Harashirma, and not overhyping the Dude. Nobody expected Madara to be as Gangsta, have tha ability to unlock Edo to go Legendary, or the mere thought of Perfect Susannoo, prior to him unleashing that, along with meteors, and a weapon that can repel Uber Rasengens, and though he didn't have all of this stuff, he had some... and lost in a 1 on 1, hell he said Hara was Boss. Minato's speed, and sealing techs were boss as well and he was thrust into a situation where he was attempting to save entirely too much, the village, Naruto, Kushina, all at the same time whilst being attacked by Obito. So IMHO he never showed his full capabilities and 'went all out' prior to his death, I mean besides getting gutted by Kyuubs (and why Naruto's not pissed about that plus Kushina, is curious), with Kushina, I never heard of a battle 'taking him to the edge' with ANY single, enemy during his life. Jiraya, as much as I dig him would easily be the weakest link in the group and could easily cause the death of Minato during the battle. Honestly, as powerful as he is, he's simply outclassed by speed of Uchiha's which IMHO is greater than all Peins paths period, all of them. He has some nice techs that would be able to keep him alive for a while, but nothing he has can even touch any of the Uchihas if they want to hang out within Susanno. Sasuke on the other team would be the weakest link, from an experience standpoint. In some way's his techs' Amaretsu based are much more than any other Uchiha I've seen, Madara included, but Itach's Genjutsu and Madara's step up to Rinnengan at will are better than anything in those areas Sasuke could produce. I could see him killing Jiraiya though. I gotta say, in the battle vs. Kabuto sage mode, Kishi shit on Sasuke. He was a sitting duck repeatedly needing saving, from a Dude that used to be like the butler to him at Oro's Hideout. I understand sage mode shit blah blah, but c'mon, without Itachi, Sasuke woulda got dented, a freaking EMS USER?? Itachi, and Madara are the X factors here, the only answer to them is Harashirma. Now the question becomes, does Minato also perish while attempting to save Jiraiya from Sasuke. Madara and Hara would be doing they're own thing away from others because they would damage them going full out... If Itachi (who'd additionally have to protect Sasuke from J-Man some) is able to assist Sasuke in offing J, then the 3 would eventually be able to overtake either a wounded Minato, but he would rid the earth of Sasuke before he went. Now were left with a near exhausted Itachi to assist Madara finishing off Harashirma. Thats my take, besides Madara, and Obito I've dug most of the Uchihas so I am biased, but honest in my opinion on the descripts on the characters.
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