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Old 11-08-2012, 01:53 AM   #46
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It causes an eye to go blind and Itachi didn't want to sacrifice an eye on who he thought was the strongest Uchiha ever to live? Or he didn't know about Izanami until later? He only found out about the guy when he was 13.
Agreed. He might have found out about him when he was 13 but he still had 8 years after that. While I do feel that Izanami was introduced only to counter Kabuto's negation of the Sharingan abilities, was there a counter to it? Sacrificing an eye to take Obito out of the picture was one that could have been afforded. Though the doubt of Obito having had some counter to it is what might have kept Itachi from trying...
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Maybe kakashi and gai could've been regenerated by the kyuubi cloak when naruto saved them? the kyuubi is pure yang anyway.
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Maybe kakashi and gai could've been regenerated by the kyuubi cloak when naruto saved them? the kyuubi is pure yang anyway.
You might be on to something there...
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:09 AM   #49
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I know I've tossed this out there a few times, and it maybe getting stale. But the only reason I can find to continue to read this manga is to find out how Tobito sees "You let Rin die" as the same thing as "You punched Rin through the tit".
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On a random thought... why didn't Itachi ever use Izanami on Obito? It is suppsoed to be the strongest Genjutsu...
I figured he wanted to stop the kabuto and edo. If he stopped obito first, edo would still be going on and he wouldda had to fight kabuto with one eye...I mean I guess it wouldn't have mattered if he used his last eye on kabuto tho :/ he wouldn't have needed it. He couldda sealed obito up with susanoo too now that I think of it -_-. Either that or he was trying to gamble on sasuke redeeming himself and saving the world feeling like sasuke could take him out....idk

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On a random thought... why didn't Itachi ever use Izanami on Obito? It is suppsoed to be the strongest Genjutsu...
Koto is the strongest genjutsu not Izanami.
Itachi had a plan and that plan involved having his eyes taken by Sasuke. Losing one eye would have fucked up that plan.

Also, Izanami requires that you engage your opponent in combat UNTIL Izanami is ready and trying that on someone who he thought was Madara, who could warp away at any given time, would be a futile. Tobi could just warp away and Itachi left standing there with one eyr.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #53
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Agreed. He might have found out about him when he was 13 but he still had 8 years after that. While I do feel that Izanami was introduced only to counter Kabuto's negation of the Sharingan abilities, was there a counter to it? Sacrificing an eye to take Obito out of the picture was one that could have been afforded. Though the doubt of Obito having had some counter to it is what might have kept Itachi from trying...
If he wasted an eye, Sasuke would only get one EMS lol. Plus can someone please explain how in part 2, Akatsuki said Orochimaru left Akatsuki 10 years ago...and Orochimaru said he left after failing to get Itachi... according to the databook,Itachi was 21 in part 2, so 10 years ago is when he was 11 years old?? Itachi was in Akatsuki when he was 11 and beat Oro??....doesnt make sense since he murdered the clan when he was 13 and thats when he met Obito...This is why i have chosen not to use the databook information,it just fucks it all up.
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^ why not? adults are kids... Look at obito he still mad at not getting rin pussy..
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:36 PM   #55
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On a random thought... why didn't Itachi ever use Izanami on Obito? It is suppsoed to be the strongest Genjutsu...
Better yet, why didn't itachi use Kotoamatsukami on tobito through sasuke...??? the eye finally recharged and tobi/madara was back in play....
and since the programming a seal to activate to tobito's eye was proven to work, also proving itachi already had a plan to take out tobito by using such a method... giving the crow to sasuke and having it react to tobito's SG forcing the command "protect konaha" would have completely changed obito and sasuke would not of found out about itachi and the uchiha coup detat...

Obito and sasuke would have returned to konaha... Obito, MS sasuke and sage naruto would have rapped nagato/pain and made him good too when he invaded konaha and with akatsuki gone... and obito good... the last fight would have been against kabuto invading konaha...

Danzou screws up at the kage summit, obito and sasuke takes back shisui's other eye... danzou gets killed obviously with both double teaming him...

then kabuto invades, but it would have been konaha with nagato/pain, obito, sage naruto and MS sasuke if not EMS because it is what itachi wanted... not to mention obito knows about shisui and his power so he could of used his senju power to recharge the eye for use again...

even kabuto with his golems and madara would not of been able to compete with that... and when itachi used his MS around shisui's eye, it would activate getting edo itachi as well on their side... Kabuto would get rapped forced to end edo... madara would break free, but then nagato/pain with madara's own eyes, , obito with kamui, sage naruto and EMS sasuke would four man team rape edo madara which then means the end of the story... everyone lives happily ever after...
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I know he really does not want to hear it, but... Obito is able to use the MS with out drawbacks due to the power of senju which is the second half of the sage's power, that creates a doujutsu without drawbacks... And since obito only had a two tomoe SG when awakening his MS+ (I refer to it)... he could not awaken the RG... However, had obito already had the MS/EMS he would of likely awakened the RG with his eye... since the full power of uchiha (MS/EMS)+senju (hashirama)=the RG...

and kakashi is likely doing the same because of the telepathic link obito shares with his eye in kakashi... It is just like the chakra rod concept with the RG... Obito's MS like the RG, when close enough can allow obito to share vision and have his eye react as if it was still connected to him as nagato's did...
SO instead of using a chakra rod to receive obito's power in kakashi... kakashi has obito's eye with his power in it, thus a chakra rod is not needed and obito can see through his eye, sharing vision as well as power up his eye as if it was still connected to him which is why kakashi was able to awaken kamui with a two tomoe SG without senju DNA powering his...

and What is real funny is if the other side of his body was crushed and senju hashirama's generic body was put on obito on the other side... obito would not of done shit with his SG I would bet... MS does not come form two tomoe SG's and without the senju to power his MS SG furhter then a standard... Obito would of not awakened shit... However, after obtaining the RG from nagato... placing it on the senju side of his body to be powered by senju chakra... obito would have full access to all the RG abilities as nagato did... just no kamui...
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^ why not? adults are kids... Look at obito he still mad at not getting rin pussy..
im pointing out that how could Itachi be in the Akatsuki (with his headband scratched) when he was 11,when he met Obito when he was 13? The massacre happened when he was 13 and when Sasuke scratched his headband. So the age doesnt fit, plothole.
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@KYF remember how Itachi gave Shisui ms to Naruto not Sasuke hence he couldn't have used it on Faggito since Naruto had it at the time
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On a random thought... why didn't Itachi ever use Izanami on Obito? It is suppsoed to be the strongest Genjutsu...
Maybe because he didn't know enough about Tobito to be 100% sure it would work on him. If Itachi failed it would be 10 more years before the eye would be usable again, and with his sickness he knew he wouldn't get another chance.

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It got food poisoning from the the half baked bijuu Obito fed it a few chapters back. It on the ground holding it's stomach and writhing in pain.

Apparently it's come down with a chronic case of plot irrelevance.
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