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Old 12-07-2012, 06:30 AM   #46
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:54 AM   #47
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Aizen can make himself appear to be anyone..he can manipulate the very world around him..To the SS Captains he could of easily made them think they were within the Soul Kingdom. Could of pretended to be a Zero Squad member and just waited for Yama to open the gate/portal if you will. I am not trying or attempting to troll here for Aizen's sake.

I could easily be misconstrued. but from the many sites I have read this from they all seem to translate he MADE Tousen his slave/subordinate....from the start..if it didn't mean that why would he place those words following his discussion with Unohara?
Better, he can deceive the commander but not force him, never the less, tricking him wouldn't be easy. Aizen doesn't know the conditions under which captain comm will be required to open the gate, and just not anyone can tell him to open the soul kingdom. Who will aizen pretend to be? Zero squad? no, they already have the key and if he had met any of them they may have changed appearance since they left soul society e.g the fat woman.
He doesnt even know the key is their bone(probably the same for the commander) so he might say bring th key, and the commander will immediately become suspicious.
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Better, he can deceive the commander but not force him, never the less, tricking him wouldn't be easy. Aizen doesn't know the conditions under which captain comm will be required to open the gate, and just not anyone can tell him to open the soul kingdom. Who will aizen pretend to be? Zero squad? no, they already have the key and if he had met any of them they may have changed appearance since they left soul society e.g the fat woman.
He doesnt even know the key is their bone(probably the same for the commander) so he might say bring th key, and the commander will immediately become suspicious.
Problem I have is that Yama could've at any point said 'all Capt's stay far away', and then go full Bankai vs. Aizen off the giddyup. I'm one to believe that even Aizen's shit has a RANGE, possibly yes. Meaning he can't use it in Hueco Mundo vs. someone in the SS, his range isn't omnipotent. Therefore simply the heat from his Bankai in the area would render his shit useless in theory. Aizen didn't have an 'anti heat' suit to help or deflect, and within his Bankai he had the ability to even destroy Aizens Shikai and Bankai if they even touched swords against each other. Lastly he had the ablility to not be able to be touched cause he was covered in a Heat Flame Cloak, so why Aizen was ever truly a problem to him never made sense to me, at all.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #49
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Re: Bleach 519

Well we wouldnt have a story then would we if yama could just blow everything up all the time?
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:37 PM   #50
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Problem I have is that Yama could've at any point said 'all Capt's stay far away', and then go full Bankai vs. Aizen off the giddyup. I'm one to believe that even Aizen's shit has a RANGE, possibly yes. Meaning he can't use it in Hueco Mundo vs. someone in the SS, his range isn't omnipotent. Therefore simply the heat from his Bankai in the area would render his shit useless in theory. Aizen didn't have an 'anti heat' suit to help or deflect, and within his Bankai he had the ability to even destroy Aizens Shikai and Bankai if they even touched swords against each other. Lastly he had the ablility to not be able to be touched cause he was covered in a Heat Flame Cloak, so why Aizen was ever truly a problem to him never made sense to me, at all.
Actually there's a problems with that. Since Aizen can control the 5 senses, then he can make people hear things as well. So If Yama were to say "all Capt's stay far away", would they know it was the real Yama saying that or think it was Aizen just fucking with them.

The other thing about Yama's bankai; I think Aizen defintely feared it. He went through the trouble of sealing his shit away with Wonderweiss. He didn't do that for anybody else, so that says it all.
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Aizen even said in a fair fight, Yama would beat him.
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Re: Bleach 519

Decent chapter. Kirinji's technique is interesting, but seems more realistic than I thought. After reading this chapter, things are proven once again how OP Urahara is since you have to be special just to get to the entrance smh. How come the guy who spoke to The King at the end had his eyes covered up? I'm wondering is it because of tradition, King's power or both smh?
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How come the guy who spoke to The King at the end had his eyes covered up? I'm wondering is it because of tradition, King's power or both smh?
Likely it's a tradition. Lots of "God King" depictions shows underlings avoiding making eye contact with their "God King" for fear of some retribution (like bursting into flames or some shit).

Also, every time I see "smh" I want to punch a baby in the throat. That shit really needs to end.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:37 AM   #54
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Commoners were not allowed to look upon royalty. They created a bunch bs reasons such as being struck blind or bursting into flames. But really this was done to protect the identity of these people from would be assassins.
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Personally King is a slight disappointment, it dosen't take imagination for a Marvel vs. Capcom boss with a basic boring shape that will morph with incredible speed and power. I've seen that Dude in multiple video game platforms.... okay Kubo attempted to give him kyuubi/sage mode eyes, ugh.
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series prediction...

.....juha bach is going to fight ichigo, unleash yama's bankai and summon Yama to fight ichigo so we can see how powerful ichigo has truly become after regaining all his shinigami/hollow powers... juha bach pee's himself after witnessing ichigo's true power, that wasn't your sword that cut the mountain, it was mine, juha bach shares a cell with Aizen, frieza, ginyu force and king cold.... the end.....
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Re: Bleach 519

I'm not convinced either Urahara or Aizen actually saw the king personally though. It just doesn't make sense that they could be able to go to that place. There are plenty of other ways they could know about him though. I can think of a few ways off the top of my head.

1) When people are promoted Captain status the captain-commander informs them about the true nature of their royal overlord. It mean only Aizen and Urahara made the comment about the "nature" of the king, but that doesn't mean they alone know about it. Yama had to know something about it for sure, if he's got the goddamn key and shit.

2) They did extensive research into the subject. Soul Society has a HUGE fucking Library ya' know. Some of the books there could have hints and clues on the subject that mean little themselves, but when put together form the 'Big Picture'. That's EXACTLY how Aizen figured out the means of making his Key.

3) The 2nd division might be intrusted with secret info on the matter. Those guys have several subsections in them that act on different matter. Some are police, while other are assassination experts. I think some act as scouts or spies within SS as well. Might as well have some sort of Section XIII (Hellsing reference) type of shit in there as well.

4) Combination of the above. Like Yama tells all the captains a little bit about the king, and Aizen researched it further and found the "truth". Urahara could have found some extremely classified files in the 2nd divisions archives in his time there, but wasn't entirely sure what kind of entity they were referring. Then when he becomes a Captain latter and Yama lets him in on the situation, everything starts to make sense.

I'm not saying any of those are what happened. Just saying there are other options besides someone somehow winding up in a location without explanation, making their way past the watching eye of the Zero Squad, seeing the King, and successfully managing to make their escape....twice apparently. Does not compute....SMH. :P
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Re: Bleach 519

Oh yeah, and I already hate this goddamn King. I hate him with every fiber of my being. He's got that same look in his eyes as Aizen. He's Azien 2.0, so yeah, kill him with fire and what not.

It makes sense though. This is the guy Aizen wanted to replace. Aizen must have seen him and got all jealous that something in the universe has a higher level of faggotry then him. Aizen just couldn't accept that, and had to tell his magical wish giving hogyoku dragon ball, "Oh mighty Shenlong, make me a total prick".

I don't think Aizen has still recovered from his loss. I'm totally serious about that. I think his mind is unable to cope with his own defeat. He just keeps telling himself he won, and that he's currently tied up in the basement because he wants to be. Kinda like KYF.








































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