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Old 01-23-2013, 01:19 PM   #31
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Thank you kindly Sir, you make much sense. This chapter was jackked up, period. Obito was still supposedly being controlled by Ino, both of the Uchiha's have at least MS Sharingans, and Madara couldn't avoid a frontal attack from Cloak Mode of any character is a farce. Sasuke could do it some vs both Naruto, and KB, but the Master Uchiha just get bombed by....Lee???
Well this was answered, they are struggling to keep control of the juubi. I think the juubi will revert back, cause it is not complete.
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Ok chapter, just annoyed with the milking of neji death.... Its been 3-4 chapters now.
Yeah, it's now like the sail that's dragging this ship along... Oh well, back to Sasuke.
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Well this was answered, they are struggling to keep control of the juubi. I think the juubi will revert back, cause it is not complete.
Still a garbage excuse, this is an entity with no limits to chakra, that created 5 Incomplete Susanno's per Kage, he could've come up with something, he's watching the soap opera. Check him, when was the last time Madara has done anything besides narrate and watch? Therein lies the problem, initially he was bored, and damn near in tears because there was no Hara to fight. Then we morph into amazement at the development of shinobi in this era, and merely mumble they're going to do something? His last action was to assist in controlling the Jyuubi to nuking Shika, and Ino's Dads. Obito's outmatched by everything obviously, it seems as if Madara will join the Alliance to battle Obito.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:55 PM   #34
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and to add to that naruto or kurama seems to have completely forgotten that they still have some of the other beast's chakra just like kishi forgot about sakura or sasuke
Hope the next chapter reverts to sasuke's tale
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Okay. So Mads has rinnegan, perfect susano, meteors, amateratsu, and the super magical fan of magic...and he got kicked in half by Lee. Whereas Tobito has been shown to be able to phase anything he looks at or touches, and phased through Naruto's ultimate super mecha rasengan Mach 14, but couldn't phase the connection cord attaching his neck to the 10 tails.

Wait, what?
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Still a garbage excuse, this is an entity with no limits to chakra, that created 5 Incomplete Susanno's per Kage, he could've come up with something, he's watching the soap opera. Check him, when was the last time Madara has done anything besides narrate and watch? Therein lies the problem, initially he was bored, and damn near in tears because there was no Hara to fight. Then we morph into amazement at the development of shinobi in this era, and merely mumble they're going to do something? His last action was to assist in controlling the Jyuubi to nuking Shika, and Ino's Dads. Obito's outmatched by everything obviously, it seems as if Madara will join the Alliance to battle Obito.
1. Madara is over confident from the battle with the Kage's, that is very clear.

2. They could not seperate from the jink making it harder to avoid such a quick attack.

3. I would not use his battle against the Kage as judgement for this battle, we should all remember when they were choosing the Fifth and the "Sixth" Hokage there were plenty of names each time, Jiraya, Tsunade, Danzou, Kakashi, Shikaku, were all mentioned so I don't think all the Kage are really chosen based on power since Jiraya was hands down the strongest and he would not do it, so my point would be there are plenty of shinobi in the alliance who may have a similar level of power who don't want to the job so Madara waiting for the strongest to step forward makes sense.
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1. Madara is over confident from the battle with the Kage's, that is very clear.

2. They could not seperate from the jink making it harder to avoid such a quick attack.

3. I would not use his battle against the Kage as judgement for this battle, we should all remember when they were choosing the Fifth and the "Sixth" Hokage there were plenty of names each time, Jiraya, Tsunade, Danzou, Kakashi, Shikaku, were all mentioned so I don't think all the Kage are really chosen based on power since Jiraya was hands down the strongest and he would not do it, so my point would be there are plenty of shinobi in the alliance who may have a similar level of power who don't want to the job so Madara waiting for the strongest to step forward makes sense.
While I can agree with the overconfidence, I don't agree with Madara simply watching Obito do work, like he's the Lackey. Additionally THESE ARE Uchiha, they can see attacks, all attacks that are chakra, including cloaked Jinks (or wannabe jinks). Madara owned Kyuubs as a pet, and I'm assuming for a while since Kyuubs knows him so well. Added to it, with the Kages, Raichu is supposedly Bijuu Level on par, and the other Kages, I'm sorry, I see them as much better shinobi than whats on the battlefield right now. They're are more options from the many shinobi, but a smarter Madara has wiped the battle field twice already, one with the largest Grand Fireball ever seen from any Uchiha, and secondly the Meteors that fell from the sky like raindrops. So sitting here watching some named, but mostly fodder ninja hold Madara at bey, and undecisive is another character personality shift for no unknown reason.
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I dunno what could be done to save this manga at this point. Probably a scene of Oro shaving Sasuke's balls because that would be less gay than this bird crap. I mean I get the symbolism and all, but come the fuck on. High five-ing people giving them Kyuubi chakra is only making the fact that Naruto is butt buddy with the fox worse.
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I dunno what could be done to save this manga at this point. Probably a scene of Oro shaving Sasuke's balls because that would be less gay than this bird crap. I mean I get the symbolism and all, but come the fuck on. High five-ing people giving them Kyuubi chakra is only making the fact that Naruto is butt buddy with the fox worse.
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This is what happens when a villain is made too powerful, it becomes difficult to balance the fights in a believable way. Madara needs this shit to work yet he acts like he doesn't really care, and to top it all he has the means to end this crap any time he wants and flatten the opposition.

Other than extreme arrogance, which betrays the urgency of his goal, what explanation is there ?
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This is what happens when a villain is made too powerful, it becomes difficult to balance the fights in a believable way. Madara needs this shit to work yet he acts like he doesn't really care, and to top it all he has the means to end this crap any time he wants and flatten the opposition.

Other than extreme arrogance, which betrays the urgency of his goal, what explanation is there ?
Exactly, one panel he's in awe, the next panel he's cut in half (when he shouldn't have been in the first place, nobody please tell me they believe Rock Lee's speed, NOT IN GATES, is on par with Madara. Harashirma DNA + Uchiha > ANY BIJUU, OR FAKE ASSED SUBTITUTE IN CLOAK MODE NOT EVEN AT ONE TAIL), But heres the kicker....he regenerates like Ichigo, and evades attacks. Extremely flawed writing, nonsensical.
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I hope Lee goes 8 gates to make it some what believable that he can tango with these guys.

The Neji thing should have ended with him. They were rivals, and having Lee deliver some land splitting taijutsu showing Neji what he would have to look forward to in their fight would have closed that subplot nicely.
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what if Sasuke an gang arrived to Madara's tomb... maybe there's some trick behind the edo tensei, and my Re-summoning the person with the ritual they kinda seal him leaving Obito fucked in the battlefield, I mean madara is invincible right now, and it makes sense he IS the one who knows everything
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Okay. So Mads has rinnegan, perfect susano, meteors, amateratsu, and the super magical fan of magic...and he got kicked in half by Lee. Whereas Tobito has been shown to be able to phase anything he looks at or touches, and phased through Naruto's ultimate super mecha rasengan Mach 14, but couldn't phase the connection cord attaching his neck to the 10 tails.

Wait, what?
You guys are forgetting that Lee is already a very high level taijutsu shinobi... A shinobi with high speed and powerful blunt force attacks... And Lee got a Kyuubi chakra cloak that should have increased his power as much as his release of 5 gates or more... Making his attack speed and force 5x greater or more... And to make him even faster, Gai let Lee spring board off of him...
So the speed of Lee's attack made it so madara could not react and the force of his attack in the kyuubi cloak is what split madara in half.... Just as Tsunade did with a mokuton clone of him using enough brute force...

Edo madara can be knocked in half by a powerful enough attack... Just like his Mokuton clone was... http://www.kivmanga.com/Naruto/577/10

And it's easier for Obito to phase himself then other things and people. Along with him trying to control the juubi who is being immobilized along with Ino in his head as well trying to control him... It is very understandable why he could not do anything other then Kamui shift himself...

So There is nothing unbelievable about Lee moving so fast that madara could not react to defend himself as well as Kicking Madara in half with the amount of force Lee should be capable of in a kyuubi cloak...
Or Obito only being able to Shift his own body with Kamui and not anything else because he is busy trying to break the juubi free while Ino is trying to control him with her mind transfer jutsu at the same time...
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Maybe Sasuke is going to bring back his parents. Think about it. He has Orochimaru, who brought back Edo Tensei and was in Kabuto to see how it was improved, and he has Juugo and Suigetsu there as sacrifices.
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