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Naruto manga 621- 623 prediction: The legendary battle

Madara Uchiha vs Hashirama Senjuu, finally this battle is revaled !

Sasuke(suprised): What your battle have common with my question about shinobi ?

Hashirama(sitting down on ground with smile): Oh..., you know. I would really like to tell story of my past...

Orochimaru: ...

Tobirama(look at Hashirama dissapointed): sigh

Hashirama(exchange look with Tobirama, then turns his head back to Sasuke): Anyway, let's hurry up with it

Sasuke: ok

Hashirama(raise his hands as he does few handseals): Genjutsu: Memory insight !

Everyone(Except four Hokages): ?!

Suddenly Uchiha room begin to flash as it changes to before Hashirama and Madara battle's Valley of End. Everyone seems suprised as they look around excluding Hashirama, who take few step forwards as he changes his attidute with goofy to serious and sad at the samte time. Hashirama begin to speak as he pull attention of everyone.

Hashirama(serious and sad): This is about to begin..., Our battle...

Minato, Hiruzen: This is ! *He is gonna transfer as to his past !*

Orochimaru: !

Sasuke: !

Tobirama: !

Hiruzen and Minato look around themselves as they can't recognize this place, Sasuke , Orochimaru seems confused while Juugo and Susigetsu look on. First Hokage turns his head to them as he speaks, while First Hokage speech last, everyone look at yourselves with confusion except Hokages as they look as Chakra ghosts.

Hashirama: Don't worry guys, I transfered as all to past, to show you what really happened.

Minato, Hiruzen: so where are we now ?!

Orochimaru: we are just chakra ghosts, so it simple genjutsu which can show us what happened without involving us, is that true ?

Tobirama: Although, you are smart for bastard, who use my jutsu...

Hashirama: We are in Valley of End, when I and Madara fought...

Everyone(except Tobirama and Hashirama): ?!

Minato: It have changed a lot then...

Hiruzen: indeed...

Sasuke: I see (looks around as he spot man): Madara !

Tobirama(spot his older brother but as real body): Hashirama !

In front of them, 20 meters away from each other stand Young Madara Uchiha and Young Hashirama Senjuu.
Madara's and Hashirama's hair are moved by small blows of winds as they keep calm posture. There is grass around of them with little tree around with river flowing in center point between of them.


Hashirama(try to convince Madara): Madara..., it didn't have to end us fighting each other, please rethink this idea once again

Madara(anger): Hashirama, stop talking nonsense. We were never friends and never could be, our alliance was only temporary. After I lost my borther you decided to create alliance, you feared my power simply, Face it

Hashirama(sympathetic): Madara..., I know you lost you little brother and I know you blame yourself for it, because Uchiha clan couldn't follow blind leader. I am sorry but still Konoha, village we both created that where you could find your family..., we are shinobi, Uchiha or Senjuu or any other clan has nothing to do with it.

Madara(calm): You are really strong but fool Hashirama, Senjuu and Uchiha are like water and fire. They would never be friends. Besides you was choosen as Hokage, Hashirama Senjuu because they think you are stronger than me..., let me show how wrong they are.

Hashirama(sad and dissapointed): You really fell in darkness, my friend.... I failed it seems, we could be both leaders of Konoha but I know you could not accept this offer.

Madara(serious): Enough of Talking, let's settle this in battle

Hashirama(become serious as one tear drop on ground ): so it really have to come to this...

Suddenly area around Hashirama and Madara is filled with powerfull chakra comming from Madara and Hashirama as well. Air begin to be heavy as Sasuke watches with Sharingan activated with mouth slightly opened at amount of chakra floating in air. Juugo is speechles, Suigetsu has shivers, Orochimaru looks courious, Minato looks with interest, Hiruzen and Tobirama are concerned, while Hashirama looks on himself(from past) against Madara.

Sasuke: *Impossible, amount of chakra they emit is beyond any scale*

Sasuke: *but Hashirama is not even moved by it* (Madara is looking little sweat , while hashirama is unmoved by amount of chakra)

Suigetsu(shiver): they are monsters !

Orochimaru(lick his face with tongue): What a power * I will finally see Madara and Hashirama powers..., delicious*

Minato: This battle is gonna be tough

Hiruzen: that power is just unreal...

Tobirama: *I can watches this battle second time*

Hashirama(smiles): This is just warm up..., watch carefully

Speeches of our characters are stopped, as cracks appear on ground beneath Madara and Hashirama feet, expanding in all directions. Blows of winds make stronger with each second passed, as Madara exchange deathly glare with Hashirama. Suddenly they tooke off their feet from ground as they charge at each other with amazing speed, leaving only dust comming from beneath their feet.

Madara swings his war fan with his right hand at Hashirama from above, but Hashirama notices this blocking war fan with his big sword. Madara then try to cut hashirama head with his scythe in his left hand, swing it at Hashirama, who notices this and make fast dodge by lowering his head, then Hashirama make fast swirl around send Madara kick to stomach, which is blocked by Madara war fan. Impact of clash push them away from themselves as they restore their stances fast.

Hashirama: great try Madara, but it doesn't work

Madara: Let's see what you say now !

As Madara restore balance under feet after stopping pushing force, he unleash rain of shurikens and kunai at Hashirama, summoning them from one of his scroll, Hashirama counter it with his own rain of shurikens and kunai. Madara then stops as he make few handseals with great speed, then he breaths huge fire ball comming at Hashirama, Hashirama notices it then does few handseals himself as he hit ground cause to shot huge stream of water from river flowing in between fo them. Huge amount of water collide with huge fire ball, canceling each other as huge dust cloud is floating created from imapct. Madara uses this dust covering battlefield as suprise attack, he activate his three tomoe sharingan while jumping in air as he spot Hashirama, then throws few shuriken with explosive notes as he take deep breath uleashing huge stream of fire comming at Hashirama. Hashirama closes his eyes as he sense stream of fire incomming then he does few handseals as he hit ground with his both fists creating cause to rise wall of earth from ground, which protect him from huge stream of fire. Suddenly Hashirama watch explosion, destroying his earth wall spliting it in many rocks flying at Hashirama. Hashirama clap his both hands as roots are sprouting from ground , catching many rocks.

Madara: ?!

Hashirama: now my turn !
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:16 AM   #3
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As cloud of dust fade away, showing Madara while jump, Hashirama uses roots keeping rocks to throw these rocks at Madara who is still in middle of jump. Madara watches with suprise at incomming rain of rocks, thanks to his three tomoe sharingan he barerly avoid most of rocks in time, with blocking rest with his war fan. As Madara fall down on ground while he avoid incomming rocks at him, Hashirama does few handseals, cause many swirling streams of water comming at Madara from below. Madara is hit with with these streams of water, while he is unable to blocks or counter them in time. Swirling stream of water hitting him, cause him to fall faster on ground as he is pushed by water pressure. Hashirama does few hand seals, and when Madara land on his feet, earth spikes rising from ground are comming at him , But dashes back a few inches then stop as he swings his war fan at Earth spikes using Uchiha gaenshi, creating schockwave, which destroy incomming earth spikes. Hashirama put his hands of ground as stand up looking at Madara, covered by water around his red armor.

Madara(recall Hashirama mastery over water and Earth nature): *Amazing, Hashirama is really strong. This water and earth jutsu were dangerous*

Hashirama(recall Madara fire jutsu, gunbai and atitude): *Madara is really the most powerfull shinobi in Uchiha clan, no doubt*


======================================== ======================================== ======
Meanwhile with our characters:

Sasuke(astonished): they have great mastery over nature manipulation. *Madara's fire release, so big and powerfull , and Hashirama earth and water release*

Suigetsu(wide open mouth): this battle in unreal...

Juugo: that is scary...

Orochimaru(astonished): that powers...

Minato(smiles): * Hashirama Senjuu..., you are really strong shinobi*

Hiruzen: *there is no doubt even in my prime I couldn't win against you, maybe match you...*

Tobirama: Earth release on so much scale(pretty impressive), although you water release still is weaker than mine

Hashirama: I know brother, but this was only warm up, now it begin serious battle.

Sasuke: ?!, I have question why Madara didn't use sharingan genjustu on you..., or why did you wood release is so powerfull ?, I thought once guy with wood release, and he wasn't that strong.

Tobirama: Simple, because wood release or any other manipulation aren't something don't make Senjuu clan strong, it's other way. Our powerfull physcial power of our body cause nature manipulation use by us to be that strong. Same with my water release, it is nothing special without my powerfull chakra, our Senjuu chakra make it powerfull.

Hashirama: That true, same with Uchiha, fire release is only that strong when Uchiha uses it, because of Uchiha spiritual power. Anyway Sharingan genjutsu doesn't work for Senjuu..., because we are always one with enviroment around of us.

Sasuke: what do you mean ?

Hashirama: when we are caought in genjutsu even for mere second, then we can sense that something changes around us,so we can simply release from it.

Hashirama(suddenly become serious): is is about to start, our battle to death !

Everyone along with Hashirama turn their heads to Madara and Hashirama(real one), who are about to clash.

======================================== ======================================== ====

Madara: Fate of this world will be settled today, same as Sage of six paths younger and older's battle...

Hashirama: Never ending cycle of hate, I wish I could stop this somehow

Madara: I will show you my true power, prepare yourself

Hashirama: I have no choice anyway.


Madara is shown with closes eyes for moment, while Hashirama closes his eyes as well as he does handseals cause roots to sprout from ground as they connect to him from all sides. Blows of winds appear from nowhere are they are much stronger, earth begin to shake, sky become dark slowly, as grass are moved by wind. Sasuke watches them with shiver as he watches changes in Madara and Hashirama bodies.


Finally Madara open his eyes revaling entern mangenkyou sharingan as Hashirama open his eyes, cause roots to disconnect from Hashirama body and disappear in ground. Hashirama body changes a little color, as it is glowing.

END

Madara vs Hashirama batte part 2 - comming soon

624 - Ulltimate Senjutsu Senjuu body vs Eternal Mangenkyou sharingan


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Hashirama: Okay, history of the Leaf. Well, Madara and I led our clans. We fought constantly. As you know wood is the ultimate enemy to the sharingan. It renders the power of basic sharingan users useless.
Sasuke: Wood?
Hashirama: How many times did you get beat by a log from the substitution jutsu?
Sasuke: Touché.
Hashirama: So anyways. One day Madara and I decided we should make a village. So we buried the hatchet and built Konoha.
Sasuke: And?
Hashirama: And what? We built the village. The end.
Sasuke: What about the Valley of the End.
Hashirama: Oh, that? Well, that's kind of embarrassing.
Sasuke: Tell me.
Hashirama: I'm not really comfortable...
Tobirama: Madara sent Hashirama a letter.
Hashirama: Tobirama, no.....
Sasuke: What did the letter say?
Tobirama: Sorry about your pride Hashirama. But it must be said. The letter read "I love you, do you love me? Checkbox Yes. Checkbox No".
Sasuke: And what was your answer?
Hashirama:...........no.
Sasuke: You monster!
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I am going to call it here... Hashirama has a forbidden jutsu that he can use to get past susanoo... It is the only way he could possibly be able to get through that thing... And the kinjutsu pretty much costs hashirama his life, being why he dies a couple years later...

It is the reason why madara claims only hahsirama could stop him...
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I find it slightly odd to see Hashi using a sword...I agree with you Numinous that he def does remind me of Naruto...idk this chapter it seems Kishi drew his just a tad bit more like our favorite knucklehead. Madara looks like a freaky Sasuke a top the Kyuubi's head. Wonder what Sasuke and Orochimaru talked about in regard to Oro's true motives. Sasuke's eyes keep switching from regular to MS..Is this due to the conflict of his resolve..to crush or to possibly save or help the Alliance? Tobimaru says that the sharingan is a curse that is boosted by ones own emotions..so what if Sasuke's resolve helps him remove that curse link..This return of love for his village, people, friends and family...Sasuke obviously is about to get talked into loving the world again...having a clear purpose...changing his destiny from revenge/avenger to something a little more promising. Guessing this will also change his EMS possibly...Wondering what Kishi will do with these next two chapters...Kages will go to war..but what will happen as they hit the battlefield? Minato and Naruto talk....maybe FTG lessons...return of other half of Kurama's chakra, I would love to see Hashi go out and save the other Kages...before he faces off against Madara...Obito will possibly be swayed by Minato and the facts about Rin's death.
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I am going to call it here... Hashirama has a forbidden jutsu that he can use to get past susanoo... It is the only way he could possibly be able to get through that thing... And the kinjutsu pretty much costs hashirama his life, being why he dies a couple years later...

It is the reason why madara claims only hahsirama could stop him...
Susano'o is overrated. Hashirama will just grow a huge wood underneath it and Susano'o will just stumble. Simple.


EDIT: Perfect Susano'o? Hell, the bigger and with two legs, the harder they fall.

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Hashirama manages to battle against a magic shield that has been proved to not be infallible, he must have some secret, never-mentioned-before crazy juju that somehow robs his life even though it was never stated how or when he died.

Or maybe Hashirama>Madara like the manga always said and says. Occam's Razor says hi.
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The God of Shinobi doesn't need a forbidden jutsu to get past susano'o.
Sasuke, Danzou and the Kages survived susano'o.

EDIT: Heck even Orochimaru ROFL

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I am going to call it here... Hashirama has a forbidden jutsu that he can use to get past susanoo... It is the only way he could possibly be able to get through that thing... And the kinjutsu pretty much costs hashirama his life, being why he dies a couple years later...

It is the reason why madara claims only hahsirama could stop him...
y is that the only way he could have won last i checked the raikage and tusnada ( sorry for the spelling error) both broke throw susanoo with just there fist and the 1st is said to be even strong in raw power then the 2 of them so i dont see y he needs a forbidden jutsu to win if he has that wood soul jutsu he just used in combination with his wood dragon he doesn't need to use something so costly as a forbidden tech last i checked he walked away from this battle and when on to father at least 2 kids
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Hashirama manages to battle against a magic shield that has been proved to not be infallible, he must have some secret, never-mentioned-before crazy juju that somehow robs his life even though it was never stated how or when he died.

Or maybe Hashirama>Madara like the manga always said and says. Occam's Razor says hi.
Lol, and yet we know Hashirama landed a sword attack on madara, but do not know how... So yet the means "jutsu" he used to land that attack has yet to be mentioned yet in the manga... You simply do not read the manga obviously because you run your mouth so much yet and are so damn wrong you should be ashamed...

And last I checked... If madara lost that fight then why did he get what he wanted while hashirama could not stop madara??? Really, speak of Occam's razor just to ignore it yourself... Hypocritical as ever...

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y is that the only way he could have won last i checked the raikage and tusnada ( sorry for the spelling error) both broke throw susanoo with just there fist and the 1st is said to be even strong in raw power then the 2 of them so i dont see y he needs a forbidden jutsu to win if he has that wood soul jutsu he just used in combination with his wood dragon he doesn't need to use something so costly as a forbidden tech last i checked he walked away from this battle and when on to father at least 2 kids
No one has ever so much as cracked his complete susanoo... We have only seen people fight his incomplete version's... Much less his perfect susanoo... I think hashirama needs a special jutsu to get past it...
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Lol, and yet we know Hashirama landed a sword attack on madara, but do not know how... So yet the means "jutsu" he used to land that attack has yet to be mentioned yet in the manga... You simply do not read the manga obviously because you run your mouth so much yet and are so damn wrong you should be ashamed...

And last I checked... If madara lost that fight then why did he get what he wanted while hashirama could not stop madara??? Really, speak of Occam's razor just to ignore it yourself... Hypocritical as ever...



No one has ever so much as cracked his complete susanoo... We have only seen people fight his incomplete version's... Much less his perfect susanoo... I think hashirama needs a special jutsu to get past it...
ok but the 1st is way stronger then then the raikage and tusnada so if they can crack the incomplete version y cant he crack the complete version
strong punch > incomplete susanoo stronger punch > complete but thats just my guess
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ok but the 1st is way stronger then then the raikage and tusnada so if they can crack the incomplete version y cant he crack the complete version
strong punch > incomplete susanoo stronger punch > complete but thats just my guess
WHat proof do you have that hashirama can produce an attack beyond what tsunade much less the raikage's super punch augmented by the tsuchikage's powers as well... There is none. So how does hahsirama have the power to crack complete susanoo much less perfect version?
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
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so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Naruto 621 The Truth
Tobirama(thinking):While brother tells his story i should see if i can find a way to free myself
Tobirama(thinking):lets see with my brothers cells orochimaru was able to enhance the hold of the edo tensei not only does he have better control over it but he was able to bring us almost back to full power.
Tobirama(thinking):i have a solution let me give it a (tobirama stops)
Tobirama(thinking):wait what is this feeling the kyuubi its coming from this room but its only yin chakra no wonder i couldn't sense it the first time but where is yang chakra
Tobirama begins trying to sense out the battlefield
Tobirama(thinking):so they were not lying madara is on the battle field but there is another one it is way to strong to be tsunades judging by the signature it is of mitos clan but its also seems to be related to the fourth!?
Tobirama(thinking):what are you keeping a secret fourth?
Hashirama:Let me begin with the senju and uchiha clan
madara is shown in his susanoo blocking the tailed beast which hashirama used with his wood golem
Hashirama:Before this fight as many would know we fought each other for many years but this time both of us knew it would be are final fight it was the fight for the title of hokage
All are suprised but tobirama
Orochimaru: interesting
Hashirama:I told Madara both of us could rule together but he declined
Hashirama begin to cry shocking everyone
Hashirama:i thought of another solution
Everyone in shock but tobirama and sasuke
Sasuke: A fight to the death
Hashirama:exactly
Hiruzen: hashi how could you
Hashirama: hiruzen you wouldn't understand
Hashirama:I myself was held as the strongest ninja of that time and for the that fact Madara resented me but that wasn't the real reason that he hated me so much.
Sasuke: Then why was it?
Tears began to drop on the ground from hashirama face
Tobirama: brother there is no need to go any further
Tobirama even begans to tear up as he balls up his fist
Hashirama: I killed his brother
Everyone is shocked
The End
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^would have preferred tobirama killing his brother and hashi helping out his brother
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