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Old 02-13-2013, 06:41 AM   #46
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I'm laughing my ass off with Vengeance fishing Minato fantards with the simplest of lures.

But I have to agree with his ranking, Minato only has the Rasengan for raw power vs the vast arsenal Hiruzen, Tobirama and Hashirama have and FTG is pretty much the only thing that makes him have the edge over Tsunade.

About the chapter itself, I think last chapter and the current one should be compressed into one and leave out the panels of Hashirama being a goof and the noxious Uchiha luv. Hopefully Kishimoto continues the VotE flashback instead of just teasing us with it.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:53 AM   #48
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Re: Naruto 620

She had her slug distribute her chakra. She protected every citizen in the village, saved their lives even when Pain struck them with that massive ST. I am not sure you are giving her proper credit...Konoah isn't some village with ten people...there are A lot of residents* You're also not thinking about the chakra needed in healing vs using FTG. IMO I would assume using medical jutsus would take more out of you. Look at how different her fighting capability/ chakra reserve was when fighting against Madara...Even Naruto noted* she would end up in a coma...She says to him she is not protecting the village..she can fight all she wants (not end up in a coma) ....She never looses the seal on her head in the fight with Madara...Even bringing out a new jutsu (same healing jutsu as Hashi).
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:41 AM   #49
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I'm not a Minato fantard. But I will say he's the best ninja in the manga. And by ninja, I mean ninja. Not the fucking warlocks that infest this story. Dude took down what appeared to be three full grown Cloud jounin by stalking them and taking them out from the shadows. He knew how to systematically take down enemies, and that's why he was so feared with his FTG technique. Kushina was no pushover. She beat up an older genin when she was still at the academy. So, I think it was obvious the Cloud ninjas that kidnapped her were pretty powerful.

I will be the first to admit Minato is not the brick shithouse of power Hashirama and Tobirama appear to be. But I'd be willing to put him on equal terms with the previous hokages because he'd be able to out think them and use his speed to attack and disappear. He wouldn't be dumb enough to try to out power them in a straight up one on one. I know Kishi reconned the hell out of his story, but I still think the Fourth is still pretty badass.
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I dig that Tobirama's a fighter, he's the 2nd strongest shinobi in that room. Obviously Sasuke would have an extremely tough out. I stand corrected, when Harashirma seriously tells you to put down your finger, and the whole room is tense, including the puppetmaster, he knows his brothers a monster. Additionally Tobirama shook up the room by simply powering up before the 'finger tap' that was coming...T/S possibly to get to the battlefield quicker. Tobirama while mouthy, and not a lot of love for Uchiha's may be biased, but never attempted to wipe out the clan, but work with them, even on some level. He's not anti Uchiha, he's just pro Leaf. Danzou was anti Uchiha, and was allowed to act on it by the weakest Kage of the group leadershipwise IMHO Hiruzen.

No it was Harashirma's powering up, same opinion though. Additionally, heres some thoughts... Obito must know that the Zetsu's are no longer attached to Sasuke, or he will find out soon. If 3 of the 4 Kages (Hiruzen didn't say he felt anything), can feel Madara and Naruto, shouldn't Edo Madara be able to 'feel' them as well and attempt a nuke session like with Shikamaru/Ino's Dad's?
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Re: Naruto 620

Great chapter, the Kishi revival continues. Hashirama is clearly on a different level to everyone in the room and the 2nd is fat becoming one of my fav characters. Lol you know he is dying to kill this Uchiha upstart standing in front of him. Hashi can also break ET at any time so it's reassuring to know that Oro ain't gonna be bossing them for much longer.

About the power scaling, imo its Hashi then second place is up for grabs between Tobirama, Hiruzen and Minato. You can have all the jutsus in the world and even be proficient in using it, BUT if you can't catch your opponent with it, how useful is your arsenal?

Lol @EoJ talking rubbish about Tsuande. She saved the WHOLE village with her chakra and your gonna wank and say Minato has more chakra! Its people like you that give us fanboys a bad name with your retarded reasoning.

And btw, the SECOND Minato teleported the kyuubi he COMPLAINED about his chakra and said he has to use his LAST bit of chakra to set up a barrier etc. And as for his chakra 'living' inside Naruto, if you can't recognize how absurd and stupid it is that a TINY bit of his chakra literally lived and saw his sons entire life, then more fool you then boi.
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@ emachina: to be honest, I could care less about power scaling in this manga, with both retcons and broken haxes that pretty much made any scaling useless to begin with. I'm just sick and tired of people putting Minato and/or the Uchiha in a pedestal when the fact of the matter is Hashirama and Edo Madara are on a league of their own and any other character looks like a red shirt by comparison (although Naruto and Sasuke are arguable because of the protagonist and anti-hero prerogatives) because of Kishi's lack of common sense when it comes to those two.

I think other matters are more interesting than these pissing contests, like how Kishi continues to make Itachi his Gary Stu or how Tobirama seems to have a T/S similar to Blueno's.
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He created that hax all on his own. He wasn't born with it.
Actually Kushina taught him Uzimaki seals and he modified them to create FTG etc. His only truly original technique was the Rasengan. I know it was inspired by the tailed-beast ball, but he created it from nothing. The other techniques he had the Uzimaki seals to start from.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:25 AM   #54
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Really good chapter. Showed Hashirama is a very respectful,strong as fuck and carefree individual. If Tobirama had that power, he would have attcked Orochimaru and Sasuke a long time ago. No wonder Madara loves him so much..

This is my powerscaling for this crazy manga. I might have missed some people but oh well

God Tier
Madara
Hashirama
Naruto
Obito
Nagato (healthy)

Awesome Tier
Nagato (Six Paths of Pain)
Sasuke
Tobirama
Orochimaru
Minato
Hiruzen
Itachi
all Jinchuriki except Naruto
Kabuto
Kakuzu
Kisame
Sasori
Jiraiya
Hanzo

GreatTier
most of the other Kage
Kakashi
Guy
Konan
Deidara
Zabuza

Good Tier
Most of the Jonin
Konoha 12( or 11 w/e)
All other named characters
Team Hebi
Hidan

Shit Tier
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So... Tobirama, Hashirama, and Madara can crush people with their chakra.... They're the super saiyans of the Narutoverse.

I think we can really settle the disputes now of who would win in Tobirama vs. Sasuke. That Uchiha brat doesn't stand a freaking chance.

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I didn't see any crushing. If there was any Oro and his altar boys would be kissing the ground.
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I didn't see any crushing. If there was any Oro and his altar boys would be kissing the ground.
Tobirama raised a single fukn finger and everyone in the damn room trembled.

Just raising a fukn finger.
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They were scare shitless, they weren't crushed.
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Tobirama raised a single fukn finger and everyone in the damn room trembled.

Just raising a fukn finger.
Yet it was Hashirama emitting the power and telling Tobirama to sit the fuck down.
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They were scare shitless, they weren't crushed.
Yeah, cuz let's take everything so fukn literal. You're just as bad as KYF taking everything too damn literal.

And check the scene of the room dipshit.

Bottom panel.

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