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Old 02-19-2013, 06:41 AM   #241
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Simple. Going by the reference that whenever one country hired the Senju, their enemies would hire the Uchiha, and vice versa. I don't see a need for the flee on notice tag for Hashirama if they hired him.
Maybe I missed your post talking about the hired guns such as the Senju or the Uchiha......yeah it was stated as such.....one side would hire the Senju and the other side the Uchiha......You don't see the need for a flee on notice because Hashi was hired????? If Hashi was serious, zero could or would escape him...as Black Zetsu said he is the land itself....well so is Hashi.....
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Maybe I missed your post talking about the hired guns such as the Senju or the Uchiha......yeah it was stated as such.....one side would hire the Senju and the other side the Uchiha......You don't see the need for a flee on notice because Hashi was hired????? If Hashi was serious, zero could or would escape him...as Black Zetsu said he is the land itself....well so is Hashi.....
No, its just they already know what's coming in Hashirama's case. Flee on notice in minato case is issued in the 3rd war when that pathetic country still probably have yet to gain a counter but that does not mean it should be treated as a permanent tag.
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No, its just they already know what's coming in Hashirama's case. Flee on notice in minato case is issued in the 3rd war when that pathetic country still probably have yet to gain a counter but that does not mean it should be treated as a permanent tag.
I agree that that tag ain't permanent and obviously no top tier kage level shinobi is going to flee on sight, second they see Minato. However you saying that 'pathetic country...' is wrong. Kumo is anything but pathetic and they had the same orders as the Rock village. To think that a teammate of Ay and Kb knowing full well he had the A and B combo next to him, STILL advised them to run, when he realised it was Minato.

I think that alone disproves your claim about the country being pathetic. Minato is obviously not a powerhouse but his speed alone renders almost all counters useless. I think that's why the order was given about him. Of course I can name a few shinobi's that would beat him but ALL of them will struggle to even catch him with their fastest attack.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #244
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I agree that that tag ain't permanent and obviously no top tier kage level shinobi is going to flee on sight, second they see Minato. However you saying that 'pathetic country...' is wrong. Kumo is anything but pathetic and they had the same orders as the Rock village. To think that a teammate of Ay and Kb knowing full well he had the A and B combo next to him, STILL advised them to run, when he realised it was Minato.

I think that alone disproves your claim about thr country being pathetic. Minato is obviously not a powerhouse but his speed alone renders almost all counters useless. I think that's why the order was given about him. Of course I can name a few shinobi's that would beat him but ALL of them will struggle to even catch him with their fastest jutsu.
No M_U, i was referring to the place where order came from. I think that hidden grass village or something can't really remembered exactly. But not the hidden cloud or stone village. Cause the old man tsuchikage and A didn't have that order if i am not wrong...

Edit: Correction its hidden rock/stone village. Yup not as pathetic as i thought it was hidden grass. But anyway that doesn't mean it should be treated as a universal order. And also higher ups doesn't follow that orders as it was passed down the chain of command to the lower tier.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:33 AM   #245
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It was the Hidden Rock village, meaning the Tsuchikage, Oonoki, gave the "flee on sight" order.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:16 PM   #246
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There's a difference between sensing chakra, like a sensor type does, and a jutsu alerting the user to a preprogrammed action. The marking doesn't necessarily have chakra to be sensed. Minato just designed it to send him a "in flight" alert.
really, then how do you suppose the Kunai's seal can "alert" minato without having his own chakra??? ANd this also includes minato's ability to be able to "sense" and know where any and all his seals are around the country and battle field... how else did you expect him to be able to sense each one to activate a reverse summoning....

Minato being able to sense his own chakra and seals along with ground sensing is more then enough to classify him as a sensor... Maybe not high level, but a sensor...

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^Exactly.

C'mon KYF, If Minato was truly a sensor, he would be able to track the Kunai every time kakashi takes a step like GPS. Instead Minato was clearly saying that the Kunai "flying" (read:being thrown), was a trigger to alert him that kakashi was in danger.
WHo said minato cannot track his special Kunai without it being thrown???
Minato programmed his seal especially to know when kakashi was in trouble... But, then how do you think he was able to get to kakashi... He had to know where the Kunai was to activate it to reverse summon himself to it...

He has to know where all his seals are through sensing to be able to reverse summon himself to them...

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Creating seals with trigger mechanisms isn't really that hard to do by the way. We've seen it done numerous times already. Exploding tags are one example. Danzo putting a seal on Sai's tongue that activated when certain info was about to be said, is another. The spirits of both Minato and Kushina appeared inside naruto so far due to kyuubi related triggers. The scrolls from the chuunin exam were triggered to react negatively if both weren't opened together.
None of these have anything to do with sensory abilities...
1). Exploding tags are not activated long distance... and alter the user lol...
2). danzou's tongue seals keep's root form saying certain things, it is nothing special. Has nothing to do with danzou sensing when it is activated...
3). CHunnin exam scrolls are basic seals that have their proctor come out and genjutsu them... still havin gnothing to do with alerting anyone...

Seals are meant to activate... But, no others can alter the user when they have... Only ninato's... So how common is this again because I do not think you understand the seals you posted and how they work compared to minato's Kunai seal...

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Blah, Blah, Blah. I'm sure there are even more instances then those I just mentioned. The point is, it's ridiculous to assume he's got some sensor related hax that was never even hinted at, when it's far more likely he simply added a relatively easy little trick to the kunai to be able to sense it's use.
lol, you examples have nothing to do with what minato's seal did... You do not even understand how the seal works yet try to explain to me how it is so common in seal use... You need to learn about how it works before trying to explain something to me I already understand...
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:27 PM   #247
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And you don't want to be called a fanboy when you do this:

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Seals are meant to activate... But, no others can alter the user when they have... Only minato's.
Humm...

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3). CHunnin exam scrolls are basic seals that have their proctor come out
Your own words, so either you just contradicted yourself or you're using such special pleading than even the Tea Party would blush at. So what's gonna be, are you going to acknowledge the utmost failure of your point or are going to play wacky psychologist like a retard again?
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Seems like everything said here that were supposed to be an edge minato has over hashirama are either incorrect or overhyped... Wonder why he got revived..
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Wonder why he got revived..
To say that Tobi was the one who attacked Konoha with the Kyuubi, not an accident as Sasuke still believe it is. That's pretty much the only thing Minato has to contribute to the plot, unless Kishi adds cheese by having a zombie father-son moment.
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really, then how do you suppose the Kunai's seal can "alert" minato without having his own chakra???
I said it doesn't necessarily have chakra. I never said it didn't. Read the entire post before you spout off. As for your actual question, it's simple to have the seal trigger some sort of mental alert to Minato. He's not focusing on the seal until it activates.

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ANd this also includes minato's ability to be able to "sense" and know where any and all his seals are around the country and battle field... how else did you expect him to be able to sense each one to activate a reverse summoning....
Each seal has it's own individual signiture? The country is easy, he memorized each location he placed a seal. The kunai might have their own "signal" for him to follow. Or it can be like A pointed out and there's a specific order to them. We don't know. You don't know, and you can't continue acting like you do know since Kishi hasn't fully explained Flying Thunder God other than "reverse summon user to the seal on the kunai".
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You guys are still arguing best Hokage? Holy fuck.

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If Hashi was serious, zero could or would escape him...as Black Zetsu said he is the land itself....well so is Hashi.....
Not quite.

White Zetsu = Hashirama's power.
Black Zetsu = Hashirama and Madara's fused power.
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Seems like everything said here that were supposed to be an edge minato has over hashirama are either incorrect or overhyped... Wonder why he got revived..
Maybe the reason Minato was brought back was for us to finally see "THAT" jutsu.... duh-duh-duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Guess I imagined this?
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C'mon KYF, If Minato was truly a sensor, he would be able to track the Kunai every time kakashi takes a step like GPS.
Minato was a sensor.
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This has been covered by an explanation similar to rangers and trackers listening to the ground.
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