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Old 02-20-2013, 07:52 AM   #31
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Oh common. Are we talking power levels? Because that shit escalated to retarded heights way before. This chapter just speaks volumes of how nonsensical those are. If Naruto and Sasuke are to surpass this, I dunno, it would be just bad. But it would still be bad if they don't because of the story telling, so eh.

Honestly, at this moment both Naruto and Sasuke look like bystanders in the manga. Not to mention others like Kakashi etc. Which is pretty fucking horrible.
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I can't even fathom the asspull gymnastics Kishi will have to do to power up Sasuke and not make completely terrible. His fight with Nardo will have to match this somewhat and the kid is really behind in power.

They might not even fight, who knows. Breaking the circle of hatred and shit.
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3) Delusion: Minato wins Hashirama easy!
Reality: Rashomon AND the mother of all Mokuton than can be seen from freaking space? Oh yeah, Minato's Rasengan clearly can own that!
Minato's T/S barrier can just teleport that thing into Hashirama's body. Fight over.

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So the Three huge gates Oro pulled out when he fought against 4 Tail Naruto originally was a jutsu that belonged to Hashi.
Hashirama's version is stronger. It's five gates, according to the jutsu's name. Sanju is triple. Gojuu is quintuple.

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also what really killed this God of Shinobi.
Both Hashirama and Tobirama died in the First Shinobi World War.
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So then begs the question how the hell did Hashirama die?
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So then begs the question how the hell did Hashirama die?
He prolly just chose to die because he couldn't save his friend Madara. To everyone else he's just some evil Turd, to Hara, he's Sasuke. Flashback kid shit will last at least 2 weeks, then the coversation will resume, just to get back to the battlefield and most are already off paneled. They're will be a handfull left when the Bad Good Guys get they're. Kishi's going with the fight evil with evil theme.

Btw... KYF, please only comment on the chapter, and put Minato down vs. Harashirma, and don't pick him back up. So dissrespectful.... Stop it, Minato called the Guy what he is, God of Shinobi.
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Minato's T/S barrier can just teleport that thing into Hashirama's body. Fight over.
Please, EoJ, don't make yourself look like an idiot. That thing is the size of Mont Blanc if not bigger, it'd shitstomp ANYONE before making a goddamn barrier to suck it in. That's how horribly broken Hashirama is.


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Please, EoJ, don't make yourself look like an idiot. That thing is the size of Mont Blanc if not bigger, it'd shitstomp ANYONE before making a goddamn barrier to suck it in.
Minato was able to teleport a Tailed Beast Bomb and Kurama while charging a second Tailed Beast Bomb without any problems and that thing doesn't even look like it moves.
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Minato's T/S barrier can just teleport that thing into Hashirama's body. Fight over.
Minato can't teleport an object into Hashirama's body since in order to do that he'd need to place a tag inside Hashirama's body. Also what makes you think Minato is even capable of teleporting something that big?

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Minato was able to teleport a Tailed Beast Bomb and Kurama while charging a second Tailed Beast Bomb without any problems and that thing doesn't even look like it moves.
You know you're completely forgetting size, right? Logically, the bigger the barrier, the more chakra it'll spend by just maintaining the damn thing, much less having to move something that makes mountains seem like dunes. There's no indication Minato has the capacity of moving the Senju Kannon, much less the chakra to pull it off.

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Minato's T/S barrier can just teleport that thing into Hashirama's body. Fight over.

Hashirama's version is stronger. It's five gates, according to the jutsu's name. Sanju is triple. Gojuu is quintuple.

Both Hashirama and Tobirama died in the First Shinobi World War.
If you're gonna quote me at least try to answer my question...I asked not when... but what killed him.....
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Minato can't teleport an object into Hashirama's body since in order to do that he'd need to place a tag inside Hashirama's body.
His barrier permits him to teleport attacks and things to location of his choosing once it makes contact with his kunai.

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Also what makes you think Minato is even capable of teleporting something that big?
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-55672-1...apter-503.html

Pulling off that while Kurama was about to fire a Tailed Beast Bomb, still having enough chakra to drag out 50% of his chakra, and while having at least a foot high mortal wound, sealing the rest of it without ever uttering anything along the lines of "I'm almost out of chakra."

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Based on what?
The databook.

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I'm fully aware of what it means, but Minato was created without balance and even if he can't pull it off that with thing, he could do it with any other of Hashirama's large wood jutsu.
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http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/79184649/1

Interesting based off the 1000 Armed Goddess of Mercy...
Hermit Law Mokuton True Thousands Hands....that is one beast jutsu...Naruto and Sasuke will have some time surpassing these two

Edit: Looks like Hashi threw something at Madara using the 1000 armed Goddess...could that be that last strike?

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Even so, have you proof he can do it on something that is smaller than the barrier?

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I'm fully aware of what it means, but Minato was created without balance and even if he can't pull it off that with thing, he could do it with any other of Hashirama's large wood jutsu.
Special pleading much? So what if Minato was created without balance, have you seen the shit Hashirama and Madara have been pulling off? That's beyond how broken Minato could ever hope to be. And "oh, even if he can't pull it off with that thing, he could do it to other mokuton"? THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT, what's stopping that Senju Kannon from flattening Minato while he's occupied with tanking other Mokuton?


Instead of doing your silly apologetics, accept the reality: Kishi doesn't give a shit anymore about Minato, now is all about Hashirama and he makes Kaiju look subtle by comparison.
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Correction his teleport technique permits him to teleport himself or objects to designated locations based on his jutsu-shiki locations. If this wasn't the case then he wouldn't need a jutsu-shiki marker to get from point A to point B. All he'd need would be one marker on his kunai & he'd be able to teleport wherever he wants. If this was the case then there would have been no need for random shinobi to throw his jutsu-shiki kunai around the battle field to give Minato points from which he can teleport to & from.

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Pulling off that while Kurama was about to fire a Tailed Beast Bomb, still having enough chakra to drag out 50% of his chakra, and while having at least a foot high mortal wound, sealing the rest of it without ever uttering anything along the lines of "I'm almost out of chakra."
But Hashirama's wood summoning thingy totally dwarfs the Kyuubi in size. Basically it's not a realistic comparison to assume he'd be capable of even doing that. Kakashi can teleport a nail. Does that mean Kakashi can teleport a mountain? Of course not.

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The databook.
Again where's the proof? Nothing is ever stated about how & when Hashirama died. Just that he somehow died since he was revived with Edo Tensai.

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Not true. Minato's limits have been addressed multiple times. Minato couldn't stop A & B at the same time, Minato couldn't kill Obito, & Minato couldn't defeat the Kyuubi. Minato even got impaled during his so called shining moment. That is what you call a dude that clearly has limits & isn't completely OP.

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and even if he can't pull it off that with thing, he could do it with any other of Hashirama's large wood jutsu.
Based on what? Hashirama can attack Minato from every direction while all Minato was capable of doing was teleporting a blast that was clearly telegraphed. Kyuubi takes time to charge while the Bijuu-dama comes from a singular direction. Your logic is clearly flawed son.
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