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Old 08-07-2013, 03:16 AM   #1
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One piece 717

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Great chapter.

I want to know about Dfla's life even more now. Why were these people turned into toys ? How were they chosen ? Why the segregation ?

It can't be random. Pretty sad to see people lose loved ones like this.

Chinjao pretty much confirmed what we should all already know. Just like how DFs became common as we entered the GL, we will now see many people with Haoshoku Haki as this is the section of the ocean where they gather. I really want to see a flashback of Garp and Chinjao. Garp must have humiliated his ass, and how is Rayleigh connected ?

Also bipolar much Chinjao ? lol.

Law is in dip shit as we predicted, and he ain't getting any back up for a while. It's time to leave, or he will die. Can't wait to see Usopp invading the factory with his dwarf army, that shit will be hilarious.

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Old 08-07-2013, 03:34 AM   #2
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Re: One piece 717

interesting chapter, Law is getting tossed around a bit. So as we all thought long ago...toys are humans and are turned by that wicked bitch of Dofla's. Factory is underground, Dwarves have 500 companions being forced into labor in the factory. Toys and humans live a segregated life due to Dofla trying to separate them and keep their memories from resurfacing. The big battle is soon to start..and some princess is a comrade of the resistance? Don hating Raleigh and crying over spilled milk (lost treasure). Apparently mastering con. Haki is a requirement to be recognized as King.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:47 AM   #3
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Re: One piece 717

This also brings into question why Rebecca knows the toy soldier and what's happening in the island, yet she doesn't remember Ricky.

She could have been turned into a toy at some point leading her to meet the toy soldier, but she could still have the memories of her human life prior to that been erased making her forget Ricky who appears to be her father.
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This also brings into question why Rebecca knows the toy soldier and what's happening in the island, yet she doesn't remember Ricky.

She could have been turned into a toy at some point leading her to meet the toy soldier, but she could still have the memories of her human life prior to that been erased making her forget Ricky who appears to be her father.
She didn't recognize Ricky cause he acted out of his character and fled to deal with his injuries. Ricky would have a nice age to him so be might be her dad. The solider might be her boyfriend or just childhood friend.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #5
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She didn't recognize Ricky cause he acted out of his character and fled to deal with his injuries.
Come on now. If he is her father I doubt she wouldn't recognize him, specially at such close proximity.

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That is not the issue. She remembers him and knows about the toys meaning when all other humans forgot about who they really are.
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Come on now. If he is her father I doubt she wouldn't recognize him, specially at such close proximity.



That is not the issue. She remembers him and knows about the toys meaning when all other humans forgot about who they really are.
Well besides father what else do you propose? Ricky seems to be quite older than Rebecca. She has something to prove and hey people don't recognize luffy. He isn't dressed as the Ricky statue. ( I could be mistaken on that.) Both Ricky and Rebecca seem to have something to prove.

Also the soldier and Rebecca interaction seemed as if she def did remember him. Idk in what capacity she said after she wins they can be together. I can agree that somehow she retained or won back her memories. Funny she yelled that out the window and one would expect that talk to be taboo. Soldier responded stiffly so it makes sense for him to act that way considering the two known rules.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #7
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That was not the purpose of my posts. What I meant was, how would she not recognize her father up close ?

You said the reason was him acting out of character and I disagreed.
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That was not the purpose of my posts. What I meant was, how would she not recognize her father up close ?

You said the reason was him acting out of character and I disagreed.
She went in to suggest he get those injuries looked at and he suddenly walked off jerking away. He then goes and apologies to her in his thoughts and a image of a young girl and gladiator is shown. He didn't want to act that way but protecting his identity seems to be important enough to be rude to someone he seems to cares for.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:01 AM   #9
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She went in to suggest he get those injuries looked at and he suddenly walked off jerking away. He then goes and apologies to her in his thoughts and a image of a young girl and gladiator is shown. He didn't want to act that way but protecting his identity seems to be important enough to be rude to someone he seems to cares for
That doesn't prove anything. His action could very well be born out of shame leaving him unable to face her regardless of her condition. I simply don't buy that his Daughter wouldn't recognize him if she had memories of her father.

This is either a product of the DF responsible for the memory loss or he left when she was very young.
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Re: One piece 717

What the hell did I just read. DFla is dirty devilish bastard. I think we've met the toy DF user already but what could be the reason for such extreme measures, resistance?

Dfla backstory is so welcome now. He could be a spoiled tenryobito brat whose toys got taken away or something like that.

Hahaha Luffy is standing right on top of their mission, literally. What are the odds
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I don't think Jola is the toy DF user. She turned the SHs at the boat into art works, much different than the toys.
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Re: One piece 717

hmm, sounds pretty stupid of Dofla to organise a brawl of landscape changing mofos of the world right on top of one of his most important establishments though..

This is was okay chapter imo, we got bits of info on multiple fronts but not enough to excite anywhere..

I had hoped for a proper fight chapter betn luf.. lucy and chinjao.
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The factory is actually located in a great spot. Marines and other authorities aren't allowed in the Colosseum, while criminals are free to come and go. As for the arena collapsing, it may or may not happen. I personally don't see it collapsing since there is another block lined up but this shit might turn into a giant free for all if the factory is revealed.

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Garp must have humiliated his ass, and how is Rayleigh connected ?
My money is on Chinjoa being a major rival being a major rival to the Roger crew, but getting beat out by them over something super important. That would explain how he knows of Rayleigh personally, and also his statement about having "A major treasure in ones reach but not being able to grasp it.".

Given that he appears to be in the same general age group as the other "epic old dudes" in this manga, and Rayleigh talking about how much weaker he has gotten in his old age, I'd say this guy was pretty beastly in his prime.


On the topic of what Garp did to him to really piss him off, I think Oda pretty much answered it this chapter. Chinjao said he use to go by the moniker of Chinjao the Drill, which makes me thing he at one time had a really pointy (you could say drill like) head, that made his headbutts ever more dangerous then they are now, and Garp hit so damn hard it literally flattened out, thus diminishing his greatest weapon.


LOL, remember that time Sanji performed "plastic surgery" on a guys face using his....feet. LOL, well Garp used his fists.
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Maybe Diamante has the toy DF?
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