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Old 08-07-2013, 07:27 AM   #16
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Re: Naruto 642

Minato: If only I had realized it was Obito sooner...

Readers: Funny... we all figured it out, rejected it and argued over it ever since we saw Tobi. I mean... it was TOO obvious, right?

Blah blah natural energy cuts through the chakra defense. Cool, whatever. It won't kill him.
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Re: Naruto 642

I see where this is going. It makes sense really. If naruto can get one rasenshuriken to hit obito than that will basically destroy his whole ability to access the chakra network thus rendering him incapable of performing jutsu ever again. If my suspicions are correct we will probably be seeing orochimaru very shortly as he is the only other person who can enter sage mode as far as we know. Then again I could be wrong.
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How many new elements to this story can be added? The evil Darth Kyuubi? Natural energy is somehow super powered against the Sage of the Six Paths? Minato is a raging dumbass over Tobito and even admits it? Seriously, this was the most boring war, it's been drawn out over two years, and now Kishi crams all this stuff in? Seriously, it's too much.
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Wasn't there a chapter in which nardo sensed that the Juubi's chakra encompassed the natural energies of the entire world or something ? If so why is sage chakra hurting Juubito ?
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It is good to see that Kishi is knocking down the powerhouses a few pegs by showing some of their weaknesses.

It makes you wonder how the 2nd Hokage was killed in the first place for example.
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Still seems like a bit of a jump for Naruto to realize that Sage attacks work, since he's pretty retarded.
You've got to be an idiot.

For all of Naruto's goofiness and Armadillo dick examining, his fight IQ has always been rather impressive in serious moments.
Now you're the idiot. His intelligence, both on fight and outside of it, is slave to Kishimoto's whim. He goes from incredibly sharp to unbelievably idiotic depending on plot convenience, but he's mostly the latter, so yes, it is a surprise that he actually figured something that nobody else did. Speaking of which...

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Wasn't there a chapter in which nardo sensed that the Juubi's chakra encompassed the natural energies of the entire world or something ? If so why is sage chakra hurting Juubito ?
That is bugging me too. Sure Nature Chakra is nefarious when the intake is too, but that doesn't logically lead anywhere to Nature Chakra countering itself. But, knowing Kishi, he'll probably throw some hasty explanation that will only make a little more sense just to please the fanboys and apologists.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:06 AM   #22
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Re: Naruto 642

I'm unperturbed by Naruto's realization. A) it happens regularly and B) he lost his kyuubi mode and slipped into sage mode, in all likelihood, it was that mode that drew his sense in and helped him make that leap.

And I'm not overly concerned with the goofy attitude. That shit is normal in Shonen manga for humour. It's the raging stupidity and inability to think beyond his own dumb head + sasuke when he's supposed to be a driven competitor that bugs me. But whatever.
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Did he...? Did naruto finally figure out how to make a rasengan without a clone after 500+ chapters?
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How'd we miss that?
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Re: Naruto 642

Right now is a good time for them to swap. Sasuke, 3rd and Minato shd go swap with Hashi. Good match for Madara. Whilst Naruto, Tobirama (He got the seal on Obito) and Hashi remain to fight Obito. Wait isn't Oro also a sage.

Minato aint a sage. This shd be the final nail in the coffin. Quick thinking there by Naruto and Tobirama. The rest were totally useless and didnt even know what was going on.
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So the other half of the 9 tails is going to come into play. Not to sure about why Sage moves work?
Because sage moves uses nature energy, the power that Juubito uses... remember that the Juubi's power is pure nature energy in the form of chakra, thus only the same power will work on him...

ALong with some other secret I would imagine...

This means that Only minato, naruto and hashirama can even fight Juubito. (minato because he is also using the Juubi's power, a.k.a. the Kyuubi's...)

And what BS, Mianto is the only edo to actually get hit, but not be able to regenerate... Lol, Just more trolling for mInato...
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If naruto has any sense he shd realise Ma&Pa will come in handy here.
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Not a bad chapter all things considered. Naruto's dialogue was a bit dopey but other than that it wasn't terribly offensive. Now it's gonna take a lot of maneuvering for Kishimoto to keep trying to justify keeping Hashirama out of the fight.

Also upon reflection looks like Hiruzen ain't coming back.

EDIT: These dumbasses need to get Juugo over here asap. He's a walking arsenal of nature energy and shit.
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So the other half of the 9 tails is going to come into play. Not to sure about why Sage moves work?
Because sage moves uses nature energy, the power that Juubito uses... remember that the Juubi's power is pure nature energy in the form of chakra, thus only the same power will work on him...
You know, if you are to answer to somebody's question, you should actually answer it instead of giving an half-formed obvious-as-hell statement that doesn't answer it. Why does senjutsu counter Nature Chakra? I'd be eager to know because I sure as hell don't know and I think that's where Senkradlol was headed to with his question.
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In this manga chars can do shit they couldn't when they get emotional. That one hand rasengan took so many damn chapters to surface.
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